Bike Mounts and Crossbars

[pyle112]

Hi, @SteveR. There appears to have been a miscommunication. There is no new design coming, and we are not offering to retrofit owners with the current design. Someone from the team will be contacting you very shortly to assist you.

I would also like to be contacted about my installation. Is service able to come pick up the car, do the installation and then return the car?

 

[Bobby]

I would also like to be contacted about my installation. Is service able to come pick up the car, do the installation and then return the car?

For a price.

 

[mcr16]

I would also like to be contacted about my installation. Is service able to come pick up the car, do the installation and then return the car?

Hi, @pyle112. I advise contacting your service center. They will be able to answer your questions.

 

[Beatstanfurd]

Has anyone tried Yakima Landing Pad 11's? They are made for fixed mounting points.

 

[Demosthenes]

I installed the roof racks ages ago, don’t remember it being particularly troublesome

 

[Beatstanfurd]

Tried mounting a Yakima Landing Pad #11 last night and it works with a M6x50 bolt. The kit comes with a variety of bolts and the M6x50 is the longest of the M6's provided. Did documentation come with the Lucid roof rack? Anything about how much to torque the bolt?

 

[Knucklehead]

Tried mounting a Yakima Landing Pad #11 last night and it works with a M6x50 bolt. The kit comes with a variety of bolts and the M6x50 is the longest of the M6's provided. Did documentation come with the Lucid roof rack? Anything about how much to torque the bolt?

Bike transport is a huge deal for me. I would greatly prefer a tow hitch rack, but a roof rack that doesn't damage the car is a good alternative. The fact that Lucid roof racks have damaged the car is very concerning, and a "deal breaker" (man I hate that term, and yes it works here) for me.

I have a mountain bike and a road bike. I do triathlons and love a good trail. My car has to be good at transporting a bike outside the car. I know, the trunk is huge and the seat folds down. I don't want a dirty bike in my $100k car. That's just me.

I am very interested in your experience with the Yakima roof rack system.

 

[kurious]

This isn't perfect for everyone but on Saturday I picked up Montague Paratrooper Highline folding mountain bike. This is not a Brompton city bike, it's a full-on mountain bike designed for and used by the US military, with 27.5" x 2" knobbies. I can remove the front wheel and fold it in <30 seconds. It weighs <30 lbs. It fits in the trunk easily without lowering the back seats. It comes with a burly cordura bag 36"x28"x12", so you could put one or two more in the back seat floor. They make road bikes too.
I'm extremely pleased with this.

 

[Mark_in_MA]

From personal experience, Do not use the cross bars!

- Using the torque wrench and proper tension you can't get them tight enough against the car and then tend to shift and move slightly. I wasn't going to try to overtighten them and break the glass.
- I had one of the covers fly off and didn't have any response from the Lucid Store regarding ordering a replacement.
- Cross bars themselves where acceptable from an additional noise perspective. Once you added on the Yakima ski rack it was very noisy at highway speeds and not something I wanted to leave on my car. Funny enough it wasn't as bad when skis were on. Must be something with the aerodynamics.
- There is a design flaw in the receptacle that the bolt goes into in the roof assembly. Three of the four bolts could not be removed as the bolt housing would just spin. More on this later... A DIY method of me cutting the bolt out proved not to be a good idea.
- My car ended up in service (actually Lucid's body shop) for about 2 weeks where they had to replace the glass, silver trim and put in 4 new threaded bolt housings into the roof. The service advisor seemed to suggest that it was a design flaw that the original bolt housings weren't crimped appropriately into the roof frame. They also said that they were aware of one other case of somebody using the roof rails that had a similar problem. He felt that this should be a dealer installed accessory and suggested if I ever wanted to have to reinstalled to have them do it. I don't have any intention on every using this cross bars again. Maybe I'll mount them inside my garage and hang something off them.

 

[Rogue]

From personal experience, Do not use the cross bars!

- Using the torque wrench and proper tension you can't get them tight enough against the car and then tend to shift and move slightly. I wasn't going to try to overtighten them and break the glass.
- I had one of the covers fly off and didn't have any response from the Lucid Store regarding ordering a replacement.
- Cross bars themselves where acceptable from an additional noise perspective. Once you added on the Yakima ski rack it was very noisy at highway speeds and not something I wanted to leave on my car. Funny enough it wasn't as bad when skis were on. Must be something with the aerodynamics.
- There is a design flaw in the receptacle that the bolt goes into in the roof assembly. Three of the four bolts could not be removed as the bolt housing would just spin. More on this later... A DIY method of me cutting the bolt out proved not to be a good idea.
- My car ended up in service (actually Lucid's body shop) for about 2 weeks where they had to replace the glass, silver trim and put in 4 new threaded bolt housings into the roof. The service advisor seemed to suggest that it was a design flaw that the original bolt housings weren't crimped appropriately into the roof frame. They also said that they were aware of one other case of somebody using the roof rails that had a similar problem. He felt that this should be a dealer installed accessory and suggested if I ever wanted to have to reinstalled to have them do it. I don't have any intention on every using this cross bars again. Maybe I'll mount them inside my garage and hang something off them.

That person must have been me. I over torqued the cleaning screw to try to get down tighter with the regular screw on a loaner. There is no way to remove that spinning screw without taking apart a lot of the car from what I've been told.

 

[Beatstanfurd]

Didn't get a chance to get the rest of the Yakima landing pads installed today, but the plan is to use the skyline towers with the landing pad #11 and jetstream cross bars. Anyone with the official Lucid crossbars have the instructions that came with it? Does it have the torque specs for the fixed point roof mount? Does the list indicate the torque? Fortunately, I have the hard top, so no glass to worry about. Another bonus of the hard top, have a head liner I'll be able to tuck the power cord for a dash cam, but need to get into the passenger side fuse box. That's another project though.

 

[Beatstanfurd]

Finally got some time to test the Yakima parts. Landing Pad #11, Jetstream bars, Skyline towers, and Fatcats look good to go.

 

[Andretex]

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Finally got some time to test the Yakima parts. Landing Pad #11, Jetstream bars, Skyline towers, and Fatcats look good to go.

To be honest… that looks terrible on the car.

 

[Beatstanfurd]

That's fair as its your opinion. For me, I am already invested in quite a bit of Yakima parts and don't see a need to buy bars that are specific to a single model of car. Thank you for being honest and adding to the conversation.

 

[Knucklehead]

That's fair as its your opinion. For me, I am already invested in quite a bit of Yakima parts and don't see a need to buy bars that are specific to a single model of car. Thank you for being honest and adding to the conversation.

How secure is the mount?

 

[Beatstanfurd]

How secure is the mount?

The Landing Pads don't budge when I grab the rails and shake the car. Haven't heard from anyone what the proper torque is for the Lucid bars, so with the Yakima parts, I just tightened it till it was tight. One thing to note, I don't have the glass top.

 

[Mark_in_MA]

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Finally got some time to test the Yakima parts. Landing Pad #11, Jetstream bars, Skyline towers, and Fatcats look good to go.

Here's the relevant page. 3.5 Nm

 

[Beatstanfurd]

Here's the relevant page. 3.5 Nm

Thank you

 

[tanjavsa]

Context and General Issues:
Given the original crossbars are not available due to a number of us over torquing, rust without covers, cracking glass roofs, etc., I figure a few of us still got our hands on them. There is also a tendency to crumple the paint on the front and rear mounts interior mount side (pointed towards the middle of the car).

Lucid is reviewing other potential vendors and install design. Hopefully, they come out with something better in the future.

My Personal Experience:
Anyways, the crossbars are time consuming and difficult to mount. Alignment and juggling screws will leave you frustrated during mounting, particularly in hot Alabama weather. The foam edges are insufficient and leave hard contact points to damage and crinkle paint. I will likely uninstall and attempt to buffer the paint despite Lucid Service suggesting to just leave them on permanently.

That checks two issues for me: over torqued screw (on a loaner) and damaged paint (Lucid Service install on personal vehicle)...

The bike mounts offered are straightforward, but the height can be difficult if not mounted near the side of the car. These are not properly designed for the Lucid crossbars with the curve not aligning with the front mounts of the bike racks. Tightening the front pulls the leading edge of the crossbar mount that then causes the damaged paint issue...

I suggest either a foot stool or partner to help.

Efficiency, Handling, and Noise (Crossbar Only):
No more wind noise than the usual. Handling is not affected in any noticeable way. Efficiency does not appear to change either, but I have not done rigorous testing.

Efficiency, Handling, and Noise (Crossbar Only):
I will find out tomorrow. Expect to not whip the car and take it gentle to start. No real plans to really push the car with two mountain bikes on top.

Verdict:
Would I buy the mounts if still available or used?

Yes, but I would make Lucid Service do it due to the difficulty and other landmines. The silver trim is apparently a plastic and metal mix, so no rust issues occur due to a crinkle, only cosmetic. Replacement is supposedly not expensive either if you ever decide you don't want the crossbars on the car.

If I ever had to install the crossbars myself, it would be a solid pass.

 

[Rogue]

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Have you tried two mountain bikes plus ride along for two kids though? If you have, let me know the secrets. I tried for close to an hour with no luck and loose tires that wouldn't work with the trip luggage.