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Haggy said:
Aside from installation, download and other things, there's not much talk about the update itself. I found that it did a good job with a lot of things, including ones that weren't explicitly mentioned. Things were considerably better for me after the prior update that added hands free, before which the car constantly claimed that it could not recognize that I was paying attention. After that update, it could recognize me if I tilted the steering wheel down so far that I couldn't read the top of the display. After this update, the car seems to be able to see me fine, even with the steering wheel in what I'd call a normal position.

Another big change is that it no longer penalizes me for looking in the side view mirrors before a lane change. It used to change the dashed lines to solid if I looked away long enough to see if things were clear. I can now make sure that things are clear and then turn on the signal.

The signal no longer stays on as long as it used to. It used to give me at least one extra blink, sometimes several. Now it might give one extra blink but more likely stops on time.

Lane changes are much more decisive and better overall.



Tesla started off the same way and told me that they planned to charge for it eventually but still didn't have a firm answer. Eventually, they came up with something concrete and it went from "a sales person told me that maybe..." to "the app said that I have free connectivity until this date, after which..." For those who bought a car in the "a sales person might have mentioned" days, they kept it free for life.

Lucid is still in the "the sales person told me...or told somebody I knew, but I didn't get anything in writing with a cutoff date."

I would hope that Lucid would do something similar for early adopters who bought a car when the company needed it the most and who paid premium prices. They could decide to charge anyway, despite the ambiguity, and if they still allow full functionality with WiFi tethering, a lot of people might be fine with it.


If it could be updated, it wasn't bricked. I don't know where this trend of calling something bricked when it's merely temporarily inoperable came from, but if we refer to that as bricked, it doesn't leave a word for something that's actually bricked. A device, such as a phone, that fails during an update, and leaves it in a state that won't let anybody get to a state that allows an update to be installed is bricked. The device is effectively like a brick in that case because it can't be fixed. Nobody's car was bricked.


"Announced" is pretty vague. In the one situation when it actually mattered, Lucid did make a concerted effort to notify people. It's not the same as merely seeing a message on the phone or in the car. But in general, any ambiguity is on the maker, and that's Lucid. It's reasonable to say that you weren't notified if you didn't see a notification. If you don't normally use an app, you might not see one. Email doesn't always make it through. Things get lost in the mail. And some people leave their cars parked when they are out of town. But Lucid took a multi pronged approach. I wouldn't think that this would be a general problem, and unless they can say that your lack of action caused actual harm, and a repair is the result of the harm from the lack of your action, they aren't going to void any warranty.

I think that people who are worried about losing warranty coverage if they wait too long in general are reading too much into things. Lucid can't say that something failed for reasons unrelated to anything you did or didn't do, but they won't cover it based on what you did or didn't do.
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The ultimate would be “Warranty void if the car is driven.” Joke.
 
smorvay said:
I just called them, apparently they won't push an update any longer. :-(
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Confirms my observation and opinion that the whole thing is on pause. I don’t have it yet. I’m giving them a chance to get it right. Ironically, my car is in the shop right now and the loaner that I have has 2.9.0 and it seems fine. But according to some posts above, it’s not fine for everybody. Ideally, it would be fine for everybody.
 
I just installed 2.9 the other day, and after the initial issues with the app, frankly I have noticed no difference driving. It's possible that it's remembering the last song I was listening to, but this morning it said it was playing that song but there was no audio. I had to go into Spotify and choose a new song and it played. Locking behavior unchanged. I haven't had a lot of bluetooth / phone issues in the past so can't speak to whether that has improved.
 
tmichael said:
Opinions are just that and we're all entitled to our own. I consider something bricked if it won't work without the company intervening. Apple phones are bricked when it is in a state the customer can't bring it out of, however Apple stores can often bring it back to life.
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Bricked is one of those terms that has morphed over time. Originally it did mean the item was dead, unrecoverable and worthless. It has now transformed to mean something that isn't working. So you're both right. As we all know, this happens with a lot of terms, like entitled for example. This has lost it's original meaning and people now use that as a pejorative for pretty much any kind of behavior they don't like.

Language is so fun!
 
week one update w/ 2.9:
-SiriusXM still has issues connecting every morning. sometimes doesn't even connect and have to re-boot
-Tidal has YET to crash! OMG!! yay! ..but why the hell did they move the 'shuffle' button buried in the 'three dots' button.
-at least once a day, getting into the car, the pilot screen is black for roughly 30-45sec (with my wife in the passenger seat asking my why we're not moving yet)
-i have to have both my KEYFOB and iPhone w/ app with me to have doors open when I walk up to the car 100% of the time. If I only have my phone, no dice. only the fob... no dice. together.. GREAT. wtf.
-DDP has been pretty good!
...and here's weird one... in swift, or sprint, the car has a slight bit of latency when being aggressive with acceleration. like a hiccup before it surges with power. not fun in turns at all.
 
DE-P Air installed 2.9.0 on May 11, 2026. First time driven on May 12 got a "Drive System Fault Contact Customer Service" warning; "Driving Power Reduced" warning; Amber Triangle Warning and Turtle mode displays. Called CS and was directed to a soft reset (brake and 2-button hold) which cleared the error.

Since then, this error message has repeated on 8 separate occasions, including twice yesterday and twice today. CS said the software team is working on this, but the car is safe to drive. It is a false positive. Well, can't exactly drive in Turtle Mode. Now, only a hard reset (car off, everybody out, 20+ ft away for 10 minutes before returning) works. A little annoyance the first time in the morning, a real hassle 30 minutes later in the rain.

My questions to the forum: 1) similar experience? 2) similar response provided by the company? 3) should I treat it as a false positive and just keep resetting? Can't get through to Service Center for a more direct response based on their experiences.

Thank you.

2.9.0 Errors 1.webp
2.9.0 Errors 2.webp
 
PhotoEye said:
DE-P Air installed 2.9.0 on May 11, 2026. First time driven on May 12 got a "Drive System Fault Contact Customer Service" warning; "Driving Power Reduced" warning; Amber Triangle Warning and Turtle mode displays. Called CS and was directed to a soft reset (brake and 2-button hold) which cleared the error.

Since then, this error message has repeated on 8 separate occasions, including twice yesterday and twice today. CS said the software team is working on this, but the car is safe to drive. It is a false positive. Well, can't exactly drive in Turtle Mode. Now, only a hard reset (car off, everybody out, 20+ ft away for 10 minutes before returning) works. A little annoyance the first time in the morning, a real hassle 30 minutes later in the rain.

My questions to the forum: 1) similar experience? 2) similar response provided by the company? 3) should I treat it as a false positive and just keep resetting? Can't get through to Service Center for a more direct response based on their experiences.

Thank you.

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I believe CS is incorrect and confused and thinks you have a RWD Pure.

But we shall see if others have similar issues. I suspect you need service, but I hope I’m wrong!
 
borski said:
I believe CS is incorrect and confused and thinks you have a RWD Pure.

But we shall see if others have similar issues. I suspect you need service, but I hope I’m wrong!
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I hope you're wrong too! The timing proximity to my 2.9.0 install has me crossing fingers. Will keep trying to reach the SC, but likely will just drive over there.
 
Celeras said:
Pro tip for anyone else in my boat, I just discovered you can swipe left on the big red "Update failed" banner and it will bring up a trashcan to remove it. That way you can live in sweet sweet blissful ignorance and pretend everything is fine.

Just don't scroll down.

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Welp guys, you can't make it up. The banner keeps coming back after deleting it, must have done it 3-4 times now. I laugh only to mask my continuing disappointment.

Compromise nothing.
 
Celeras said:
Welp guys, you can't make it up. The banner keeps coming back after deleting it, must have done it 3-4 times now. I laugh only to mask my continuing disappointment.

Compromise nothing.
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It's probably time you look away from the app.
 
Joelaron said:
week one update w/ 2.9:
-SiriusXM still has issues connecting every morning. sometimes doesn't even connect and have to re-boot
-Tidal has YET to crash! OMG!! yay! ..but why the hell did they move the 'shuffle' button buried in the 'three dots' button.
-at least once a day, getting into the car, the pilot screen is black for roughly 30-45sec (with my wife in the passenger seat asking my why we're not moving yet)
-i have to have both my KEYFOB and iPhone w/ app with me to have doors open when I walk up to the car 100% of the time. If I only have my phone, no dice. only the fob... no dice. together.. GREAT. wtf.
-DDP has been pretty good!
...and here's weird one... in swift, or sprint, the car has a slight bit of latency when being aggressive with acceleration. like a hiccup before it surges with power. not fun in turns at all.
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You've got a turbo lag!;)
 
PhotoEye said:
DE-P Air installed 2.9.0 on May 11, 2026. First time driven on May 12 got a "Drive System Fault Contact Customer Service" warning; "Driving Power Reduced" warning; Amber Triangle Warning and Turtle mode displays. Called CS and was directed to a soft reset (brake and 2-button hold) which cleared the error.

Since then, this error message has repeated on 8 separate occasions, including twice yesterday and twice today. CS said the software team is working on this, but the car is safe to drive. It is a false positive. Well, can't exactly drive in Turtle Mode. Now, only a hard reset (car off, everybody out, 20+ ft away for 10 minutes before returning) works. A little annoyance the first time in the morning, a real hassle 30 minutes later in the rain.

My questions to the forum: 1) similar experience? 2) similar response provided by the company? 3) should I treat it as a false positive and just keep resetting? Can't get through to Service Center for a more direct response based on their experiences.

Thank you.

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I never got any warnings for Drive System fault but I did get a call from my local service center saying my car sent them a signal saying something to that effect. Its working fine for me and still no warning in my car after couple days but they want me to bring it in. Anyone else experience anything like this? Its $280 to have it inspected as my car is out of the comprehensive warranty. The powertrain warranty is still on so ill get that refunded if there’s something really wrong.
 
Chillywill75 said:
I never got any warnings for Drive System fault but I did get a call from my local service center saying my car sent them a signal saying something to that effect. Its working fine for me and still no warning in my car after couple days but they want me to bring it in.
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you definately should let them check whatever is sent before it becomes a bigger issue.
 
Not driven my car a lot since updating almost a month ago but in fewer times I did, the blank screen has been observed a couple of times and that is too many against my count of behind the wheels.
 
L-Dude said:
Bricked is one of those terms that has morphed over time. Originally it did mean the item was dead, unrecoverable and worthless. It has now transformed to mean something that isn't working. So you're both right. As we all know, this happens with a lot of terms, like entitled for example. This has lost it's original meaning and people now use that as a pejorative for pretty much any kind of behavior they don't like.

Language is so fun!
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The problem is that it leaves not word for bricked in the classic sense. It becomes like gridlock. So many people use it to mean heavy traffic, which has nothing to do with grids or anything being "locked" that there's no longer a meaningful word for gridlock.
 
Haggy said:
The problem is that it leaves not word for bricked in the classic sense. It becomes like gridlock. So many people use it to mean heavy traffic, which has nothing to do with grids or anything being "locked" that there's no longer a meaningful word for gridlock.
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I’ve been all over the Internet, trying to find a common definition for brick in the sense we’re talking about. The consensus of all definitions is that the device is rendered completely inoperable. Not just slowed down or not working well. Not working at all. For an automobile that would mean that it is incapable of performing its most basic function: a means of transportation. It won’t go anywhere. At all. Will not move. Compared to its intended, designed, and advertised function, it has all the value of a common brick. The question then becomes, “for how long?“ If a software fix went to only those cars that were rendered inoperable (and no others) 24 hours later, then I would say that the car was bricked for 24 hours. So, if one wishes to be precise, one could say that the device – whatever it is – is bricked for (whatever time period.)
 
The term comes from electronics; I have used it much of my working career. [Definitely not the "value of a brick"]

It means you have screwed up so much that you are totally locked out of an electronic device, with no hope of recovery ever. There is no way to access the electronics from the outside at all due to semiconductor protections, etc, so you cannot log in or reprogram in any way. There is no concept of a temporary bricking--only permanent, irreparable damage.

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Brick (electronics) - Wikipedia

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