Air 2025 unlikely to have NACS port

[erivaldoff]

I just stopped at my local Lucid service center and I asked the rep if the Air 2025 models announced this week will have the “Tesla” charge the rep said they just received some materials/docs related to the new car and he went to look up. After a couple minutes reading thru he told me that unlike to have NACS port in this car.

 

[erivaldoff]

overthinking here.. if the Air 2025 models have the NACS they would have announced this week making a big deal. But I guess it needs more engineering to implement it. If they have implemented NACS charging port to the Air I think they would move the port to a more ‘friendly’ location because right now it’s almost impossible to charge a Lucid in a Tesla Supercharger

 

[Batteryman]

overthinking here.. if the Air 2025 models have the NACS they would have announced this week making a big deal. But I guess it needs more engineering to implement it. If they have implemented NACS charging port to the Air I think they would move the port to a more ‘friendly’ location because right now it’s almost impossible to charge a Lucid in a Tesla Supercharger

Can’t you go front in and charge? Cable too short even for that?

 

[DeaneG]

Can’t you go front in and charge? Cable too short even for that?

Slightly too short, except on V4 charging stands.

 

[DeaneG]

It's not just the NACS port, it's Tesla being ready to integrate Lucid charging into their network. Hasn't happened yet.

 

[DeaneG]

Also, for now, a NACS port on an Air would mostly be a 50kW inconvenience. Unless you bought an adapter, you'd be giving up on 200+kW charging rates from CCS stations.

 

[ahmadr]

Also, for now, a NACS port on an Air would mostly be a 50kW inconvenience. Unless you bought an adapter, you'd be giving up on 200+kW charging rates from CCS stations.

Not necessarily. The NACS connector can support up to ~1000 V charging IF the charging station supports it. Practically, this means all NACS stations except Tesla Supercharger V3 (and older) stations can support ~1 kV.

That said, it's unfortunate that the Lucid Wunderbox only supports 50 kW upconversion. Especially when Porsche goes up to 150 kW and Kia/Hyundai/Genesis to 105 kW

 

[DeaneG]

Not necessarily. The NACS connector can support up to ~1000 V charging IF the charging station supports it. Practically, this means all NACS stations except Tesla Supercharger V3 (and older) stations can support ~1 kV.

But for now, there are no 1000V NACS charging stations anywhere in the world. Those Tesla V4 charging stands you see are all supplied by 450V V3 power cabinets.

 

[borski]

Practically, this means all NACS stations except Tesla Supercharger V3 (and older) stations can support ~1 kV.

So, literally none of them today. Zero of the 1000V stations are supplied, at present, by 1000V cabinets. For now, all it is is an advertisement for a potential future in which Tesla gets working 1000V cabinets out there, but there has not been a single one yet.