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Convince me to buy a Gravity DE (current Air DE owner)

Yeah I am guessing the earth will be a pretty great vehicle. An earth sapphire would be 🥰
 
WeighingGravity said:
An earth sapphire would be 🥰
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I hadn't even considered that possibility. It wouldn't replace a Gravity, but it would certainly add another car to our garage.

Although I was licking my chops for a Gravity Dream, I wouldn't consider a Gravity Sapphire. There is a limit to the power I want available to tempt me into trouble in a vehicle of that size and weight. It was already one of the reasons I was able to resist the Air Sapphire.
 
HaltheAerialist said:
I have read and watched many reviews of the Ioniq 5, and nearly all of them gush about the car--they say that it's quick, comfortable, spacious, handles very well, charges quickly . . . everything that an EV should be. I have seen the complaints about the software/interface, especially route planning. I haven't driven a 2025, but the 2023 SE that I drove, while fun and very capable, looked and felt cheap inside, especially for a $60k (fully loaded) car.
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2025 vs 2023

 
HaltheAerialist said:
...So, I have to choose between a vehicles that are either larger or smaller than I really want and need. I'd like to drive the latest Ioniq 5, but it's hard to find one available nearby. And I obviously want to drive the Gravity to see how it feels, if I'll be happy with such a large vehicle, and if I think that it's worth the price premium over the smaller 2-row EV SUVs.
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The Polestar 3 is worth a look, if you haven't already. It's shorter and narrower than Gravity, attractive, and drives very, very well. Heavily subsidized leases are available at about $800/month.
 
HaltheAerialist said:
I have read and watched many reviews of the Ioniq 5, and nearly all of them gush about the car--they say that it's quick, comfortable, spacious, handles very well, charges quickly . . . everything that an EV should be. I have seen the complaints about the software/interface, especially route planning. I haven't driven a 2025, but the 2023 SE that I drove, while fun and very capable, looked and felt cheap inside, especially for a $60k (fully loaded) car.

I know that it seems crazy to cross shop Ioniq 5 and Gravity, but my ideal vehicle would be in-between these two size-wise. There is nothing like that available. Anything that is has significantly more cargo space than the Ioniq is as big outside as the Gravity, and has much less space inside than the Gravity. I've driven the Rivian R1S and Volvo EX90, and while they are very good for what they are, neither is my cup of tea. They both felt like driving mid-size trucks, with a big, high nose in front of you and a lot of mass to move around. All of the reports say that Gravity feels smaller than it is when driving it, but when it comes to narrow roads and parking spaces, there is no getting around the fact that it's about the same length and width as the Rivian and Volvo.

So, I have to choose between a vehicles that are either larger or smaller than I really want and need. I'd like to drive the latest Ioniq 5, but it's hard to find one available nearby. And I obviously want to drive the Gravity to see how it feels, if I'll be happy with such a large vehicle, and if I think that it's worth the price premium over the smaller 2-row EV SUVs.
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Used EQE SUV with rear wheel steer? Or Macan?
 
The new BMW i3 should be available by EOY. If your needs are not immediate you could postpone your decision until that's released. Likely the right size but maybe the wrong price.
 
Polestar 3, Macan, EQE, and i3 don't have enough cargo space for me. I need at least as much as I have now in the Q5 (about 60 cubic feet). Ioniq 5 matches it, but I've been hoping for more. Gravity doubles it--much more than I need! (Contiguous space behind the front seats is more like 100 cubic feet, i.e. subtracting the frunk and under-floor storage in the 5-seat Gravity, which is still more than I need.) There is no "Goldilocks" car for me . . . sigh. The just-announced Subaru Trailseeker is probably the right size, but its technology is already 5 years out-of-date; the mediocre range and poor charging speed are massive disappointments. (And I think that it's just plain ugly.) The outstanding engineering of the Gravity is a big attraction to me, and something that I want to support. I'm just not sure I want to support it with a 6-figure price tag.

I do note that although Gravity is 15 inches longer than my Q5, it's only 3 inches wider and about the same height. With the dynamic handling package, it has a smaller turning radius. So, other than fitting in small parking spaces, it may not feel too big to me. I really want a test drive . . .
 
HaltheAerialist said:
Polestar 3, Macan, EQE, and i3 don't have enough cargo space for me. I need at least as much as I have now in the Q5 (about 60 cubic feet). Ioniq 5 matches it, but I've been hoping for more. Gravity doubles it--much more than I need! (Contiguous space behind the front seats is more like 100 cubic feet, i.e. subtracting the frunk and under-floor storage in the 5-seat Gravity, which is still more than I need.) There is no "Goldilocks" car for me . . . sigh. The just-announced Subaru Trailseeker is probably the right size, but its technology is already 5 years out-of-date; the mediocre range and poor charging speed are massive disappointments. (And I think that it's just plain ugly.) The outstanding engineering of the Gravity is a big attraction to me, and something that I want to support. I'm just not sure I want to support it with a 6-figure price tag.

I do note that although Gravity is 15 inches longer than my Q5, it's only 3 inches wider and about the same height. With the dynamic handling package, it has a smaller turning radius. So, other than fitting in small parking spaces, it may not feel too big to me. I really want a test drive . . .
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It is 2.5in longer than the Air, to give you an idea. And because of the RWS, it feels smaller.
 
HaltheAerialist said:
Polestar 3, Macan, EQE, and i3 don't have enough cargo space for me. I need at least as much as I have now in the Q5 (about 60 cubic feet). Ioniq 5 matches it, but I've been hoping for more. Gravity doubles it--much more than I need! (Contiguous space behind the front seats is more like 100 cubic feet, i.e. subtracting the frunk and under-floor storage in the 5-seat Gravity, which is still more than I need.) There is no "Goldilocks" car for me . . . sigh. The just-announced Subaru Trailseeker is probably the right size, but its technology is already 5 years out-of-date; the mediocre range and poor charging speed are massive disappointments. (And I think that it's just plain ugly.) The outstanding engineering of the Gravity is a big attraction to me, and something that I want to support. I'm just not sure I want to support it with a 6-figure price tag.

I do note that although Gravity is 15 inches longer than my Q5, it's only 3 inches wider and about the same height. With the dynamic handling package, it has a smaller turning radius. So, other than fitting in small parking spaces, it may not feel too big to me. I really want a test drive . . .
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Have you considered the Kia EV9. We've had one (my wife's primary) for a year now and. it's been great. It's part of the reason I'm going SUV myself now with the Gravity. After a few road trips in her comfy and extremely roomy EV9, my body aches just thinking about a road trip in my Taycan and with us about to move in the next year or two and increase my commute time, I just need something much more comfortable. I considered an EV9 for myself but then Lucid dropped the Gravity and hooked me. I still want an engaging driving experience!
 
HaltheAerialist said:
Polestar 3, Macan, EQE, and i3 don't have enough cargo space for me. I need at least as much as I have now in the Q5 (about 60 cubic feet). Ioniq 5 matches it, but I've been hoping for more. Gravity doubles it--much more than I need! (Contiguous space behind the front seats is more like 100 cubic feet, i.e. subtracting the frunk and under-floor storage in the 5-seat Gravity, which is still more than I need.) There is no "Goldilocks" car for me . . . sigh. The just-announced Subaru Trailseeker is probably the right size, but its technology is already 5 years out-of-date; the mediocre range and poor charging speed are massive disappointments. (And I think that it's just plain ugly.) The outstanding engineering of the Gravity is a big attraction to me, and something that I want to support. I'm just not sure I want to support it with a 6-figure price tag.

I do note that although Gravity is 15 inches longer than my Q5, it's only 3 inches wider and about the same height. With the dynamic handling package, it has a smaller turning radius. So, other than fitting in small parking spaces, it may not feel too big to me. I really want a test drive . . .
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If you have the Q5 have you considered the Q6? Seems to have similar cargo space as the Q5.
 
HC_79 said:
If you have the Q5 have you considered the Q6? Seems to have similar cargo space as the Q5.
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First - love the open thought process. Right now, all in on the GDE or GGT - I am still swinging back and forth even though money is locked on GDE. For ICE, my plan B is actually either a SQ7 or SQ8 - learning more toward the SQ7. For EV, the only good competition with Gravity is EV9 or Cadillac Lyric-V - maybe (short on data facts here). I investigated the Trailseeker and found the dated tech but have not test drove it. Therefore, I am settled on Plan A - GDE and plan B - SQ7. FWIW
 
98point1 said:
Have you considered the Kia EV9. We've had one (my wife's primary) for a year now and. it's been great. It's part of the reason I'm going SUV myself now with the Gravity. After a few road trips in her comfy and extremely roomy EV9, my body aches just thinking about a road trip in my Taycan and with us about to move in the next year or two and increase my commute time, I just need something much more comfortable. I considered an EV9 for myself but then Lucid dropped the Gravity and hooked me. I still want an engaging driving experience!
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Thank you for sharing your experience. I've read and watched some reviews of the EV9, and it just doesn't appeal to me much. I'm not crazy about the Kia interior style. I have no use for a third row, and the third row of seats eats into the cargo space. Gravity has done an amazing job with its packaging, something that no other maker has accomplished yet. Most of all, like you, I want a vehicle that's engaging to drive. I haven't driven the EV9, but I have tried the Rivian R1S and Volvo EX90. The R1S is very truck-like, in capability and driving feel. And the seat is just too damn big for my short body--I can't sit in the thing comfortably. The EX90 is very smooth and comfortable to drive, but also very isolated from the road--not at all engaging. A big appeal of the Gravity is that, according to all of the test reports, it feels much more like a great sports sedan than an SUV. I'm mostly hooked on the specs and review, not so much on the price. We'll see how I feel after a test drive.
 
HC_79 said:
If you have the Q5 have you considered the Q6? Seems to have similar cargo space as the Q5.
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Thank you for the suggestion. Yes, I have read up on the Q6, and read/watched several reviews. I disliked it enough that I haven't bothered to go drive one. I like my Q5 well enough, but I'm ready for a change moving to an EV. Audi has tried so hard to make the Q6 look and behave like an ICE vehicle, from the layout and packaging to the driving experience to the fake grille and air intakes. I think that the exterior looks bad with all of those pointless cosmetic details. Maybe this is what most Audi customers want, but it's not what I want; I see their EVs as a big missed opportunity. The Q6 is bigger outside than the Q5, but has no more space inside. Compare that to what Lucid has done with Air and Gravity--designing around the advantages of small motors and engineering with the advantages of battery locations and freedom from having a big engine up front. The Q6 interior is nice, but looks pretty much like my current vehicle. Other than a bigger infotainment screen, there is nothing new and innovative--no great new functionality or significant design improvement. Based on the reviews, the driving experience is pretty dull. It seems reasonably pleasant, but not enough of an upgrade for me to spend $70-80k on. If I'm going to spend that much on a vehicle, I would rather spend a little more and get something spectacular, like the Gravity.
 
HaltheAerialist said:
Thank you for sharing your experience. I've read and watched some reviews of the EV9, and it just doesn't appeal to me much. I'm not crazy about the Kia interior style. I have no use for a third row, and the third row of seats eats into the cargo space. Gravity has done an amazing job with its packaging, something that no other maker has accomplished yet. Most of all, like you, I want a vehicle that's engaging to drive. I haven't driven the EV9, but I have tried the Rivian R1S and Volvo EX90. The R1S is very truck-like, in capability and driving feel. And the seat is just too damn big for my short body--I can't sit in the thing comfortably. The EX90 is very smooth and comfortable to drive, but also very isolated from the road--not at all engaging. A big appeal of the Gravity is that, according to all of the test reports, it feels much more like a great sports sedan than an SUV. I'm mostly hooked on the specs and review, not so much on the price. We'll see how I feel after a test drive.
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I know most likely these wouldn't exist or configured this way but how about a totally stripped base Gravity GT or Touring?
 
illopp00 said:
I know most likely these wouldn't exist or configured this way but how about a totally stripped base Gravity GT or Touring?
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I remember when a stripped-down car had manual crank windows, manual door locks, no A/C, a basic AM (or maybe AM/FM) radio, and sometimes no power steering . . . I'm glad that those days are gone! I ordered a Gravity GT as stripped as I'm willing to go. The dynamic handling package really makes the car drive as well as it does, so I can't skip that. And a great audio system helps me enjoy a car much more. I didn't order the comfort and convenience or technology packages because I don't care about most of the features in them. But to be honest, it bothers me that Lucid charges extra for things that I think should be included for $95k, like the surround-view camera and 120V power outlets. I'm hoping that I'll be happy with the base interior, but I really need to compare the seats to the upgraded 18-way seats. I don't really care about the leather.

Gravity Touring may be an option, but we just don't know enough about it yet. I can predict that it will have about 620 horsepower and a smaller battery (maybe 350 miles range, maximum?), but what other features might they remove? I could go for the lower power and live with the shorter range. I wish that I could get a metal roof instead of the expensive and heavy glass one, but Lucid has said that they don't plan to produce a metal-roof Gravity. And there is the upcoming midsize Lucid SUV as an option, but we know hardly anything about it, not even the basic dimensions. There's my dilemma--I'm trying to make a decision that feels big and important, but I don't have enough information. It's a big leap for me to throw caution to the wind and just say "what the hell, I'll buy the GT and enjoy it."
 
HaltheAerialist said:
I remember when a stripped-down car had manual crank windows, manual door locks, no A/C, a basic AM (or maybe AM/FM) radio, and sometimes no power steering . . . I'm glad that those days are gone! I ordered a Gravity GT as stripped as I'm willing to go. The dynamic handling package really makes the car drive as well as it does, so I can't skip that. And a great audio system helps me enjoy a car much more. I didn't order the comfort and convenience or technology packages because I don't care about most of the features in them. But to be honest, it bothers me that Lucid charges extra for things that I think should be included for $95k, like the surround-view camera and 120V power outlets. I'm hoping that I'll be happy with the base interior, but I really need to compare the seats to the upgraded 18-way seats. I don't really care about the leather.

Gravity Touring may be an option, but we just don't know enough about it yet. I can predict that it will have about 620 horsepower and a smaller battery (maybe 350 miles range, maximum?), but what other features might they remove? I could go for the lower power and live with the shorter range. I wish that I could get a metal roof instead of the expensive and heavy glass one, but Lucid has said that they don't plan to produce a metal-roof Gravity. And there is the upcoming midsize Lucid SUV as an option, but we know hardly anything about it, not even the basic dimensions. There's my dilemma--I'm trying to make a decision that feels big and important, but I don't have enough information. It's a big leap for me to throw caution to the wind and just say "what the hell, I'll buy the GT and enjoy it."
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Well now you can get the outlets for just $600, which should be good news to people who don’t care about HUDs :)
 
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