J1772 emulation for V2L?

ardhout said:

Interesting explanation, didn't realize about the need for isolating the home from the grid during power outage.
But if power outage is irrelevant (because it never happens), and main goal is to use the energy from Lucids battery to power 'something' in the house, what would be the minimum needed equipment (cabling, chargers, converters, powerwalls etc.) to be able to establish that? Even a one 230V/16Amp socket directly connected to the car, to power a 2500Watt heater in wintertime and an airconditioning in summer time would be enough in this stage.

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V2L. It is much simpler than V2H and does not need to be isolated.

You're right V2L really should be much easier to implement. I thought the hold up might be related to the fear that people not have the needed isolating switch. However, since the majority of people will hire an electrician to install, the electrician and/or permitting process should address that, no? @daveo4ev hinted that he also believed this may be the issue with implementation.

Also if you have a pre-existing alternate power source, you already have the auto off switch to isolate from the grid. Reading through this thread and others, there are knowledgeable people that state the problem is not the hardware. I'm just trying to understand the true impediment.

scal_air said:

You're right V2L really should be much easier to implement. I thought the hold up might be related to the fear that people not have the needed isolating switch. However, since the majority of people will hire an electrician to install, the electrician and/or permitting process should address that, no?

Also if you have a pre-existing alternate power source, you already have the auto off switch

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If Lucid sets up V2L there is no need for any of that. You will simply be plugging the appliance into the car. At that point neither is being plugged into the network so no need for any of that.

Steveinarizona said:

If Lucid sets up V2L there is no need for any of that. You will simply be plugging the appliance into the car. At that point neither is being plugged into the network so no need for any of that.

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The problem is that I don't want to run an extention cord to my refrigerator in a power outage. It's useful that I can run that fridge for a month, but I'd rather run my whole house for a day or two with that big 92 kWh battery. Could also recharge at EA and continue to run the house indefinitely. Am I missing something? Maybe V2L is better than nothing but it's frustrating because it leaves so much potential on the table.

scal_air said:

The problem is that I don't want to run an extention cord to my refrigerator in a power outage. It's useful that I can run that fridge for a month, but I'd rather run my whole house for a day or two with that big 92 kWh battery. Could also recharge at EA and continue to run the house indefinitely. Am I missing something? Maybe V2L is better than nothing but it's frustrating because it leaves so much potential on the table.

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No...you are not missing something. What you want to do is the very definition of V2H. In my case, we rarely have power outages and when they do, they don't last long. So I bought a couple of 50 foot extension cords that will run from my kitchen to the garage (low gauge to handle the power) and basically I want to cover the refrigerators (we have two; one in the kitchen, one in the garage) and maybe a tv or computer. For that V2L is fine.