Range Performance SF to LA

[sansonoma]

Just got my Zephyr Red GT after selling my 2022 Model S, and I am in love with the Lucid!

Would like some feedback:

I drove from my home in Palo Alto to my work in LA yesterday, a distance of 312 miles. I had been led to believe that that was a reasonable range if I kept the speed on I-5 under 75. I arrived at work with a mere 20 miles left. So, it's uncomfortable in that respect. Is this the experience of others? I noticed:

1. The car was steady at 3.3 m/kw
2. The "miles remaining" indication is inaccurate and poorly calibrated. For every mile I traveled, the range remaining went down by an average of 1.35 miles. (This is one of the only two things that my Tesla did better.)
3. of note, I stopped at the EA at Harris Ranch on my return. There were 8 charging stations. Only 3 were functioning. One of those did not recognize my Lucid. Only two of 8 did, and those worked well. No doubt, EA is a problem. (This is the other thing, at Kettleman, there were over 60 functioning Tesla superchargers that all worked - whenever I tried them.)

Is my range experience typical?

 

[E LUCID 8]

I have been getting low m/kw 2.6-3.1 as well. Some have said it improves after about 2000 miles. I have about 2200 mi on the car and so far it has been the same. I do mostly regular street driving in traffic.

 

[sansonoma]

I am still wondering about the claims of San Diego to SF on a single charge. I have the 19" wheels and still would barely make it to San Luis Obispo with the range I got. Does one need to adhere to the 55 mph "sweet spot" that has been reported here? or was SD to SF on one charge just hyperbole?

 

[GEWC]

It is all about how you drive. Play around with the car, learn how to maximize range, and you should see better results. I'm curious also how the northbound route compares.

 

[hydbob]

I find the largest factor driving up and down the 5 is how windy it is that day. Also the Grapevine and the 152 will sap your energy like nobody's business

 

[DeaneG]

Just got my Zephyr Red GT after selling my 2022 Model S, and I am in love with the Lucid!

Would like some feedback...
Is my range experience typical?

Freeway range falls approximately with the square of (road speed + wind speed).
Our country's CCS network has a long way to go. EA is busy replacing their most troublesome fast-charging stations with new 2nd-generation units. The recent $7.5B federal funding should approximately double the number of DCFC locations available to us over the next three years. The big unknown is if/when/how Tesla will take part in that with their V4 Tesla/CCS supercharger.

 

[sansonoma]

It is all about how you drive. Play around with the car, learn how to maximize range, and you should see better results. I'm curious also how the northbound route compares.

Will let you know. Driving back tomorrow, with a passenger, too.

 

[sansonoma]

Freeway range falls approximately with the square of (road speed + wind speed).
Our country's CCS network has a long way to go. EA is busy replacing their most troublesome fast-charging stations with new 2nd-generation units. The recent $7.5B federal funding should approximately double the number of DCFC locations available to us over the next three years. The big unknown is if/when/how Tesla will take part in that with their V4 Tesla/CCS supercharger.

Very good. I would hope that Lucid's "mile remaining" indication could account for that. But maybe that in 20.XX.XX

 

[sansonoma]

I find the largest factor driving up and down the 5 is how windy it is that day. Also the Grapevine and the 152 will sap your energy like nobody's business

That makes sense. I looked at it all up and over. You lose a lot more uphill than you get back downhill. The San Diego to SF brag still mystifies me, tho

 

[DeaneG]

Have you checked A Better Route Planner to see if its estimates matched your experience? Not sure if you have to pay the $5 "premium" level to tell it you plan to drive 75mph.

 

[Adnillien]

Have you checked A Better Route Planner to see if its estimates matched your experience? Not sure if you have to pay the $5 "premium" level to tell it you plan to drive 75mph.

The pay plan gets you current weather but the free plan allows you to set any speed relative to speed limit.

 

[sansonoma]

Have you checked A Better Route Planner to see if its estimates matched your experience? Not sure if you have to pay the $5 "premium" level to tell it you plan to drive 75mph.

Will check that. I'm a pilot, and "fuel" calculations are a bit easier in my plane.

 

[sansonoma]

The pay plan gets you current weather but the free plan allows you to set any speed relative to speed limit.

Gonna check that out now. Thanks for the tip.

 

[babwine]

Just got my Zephyr Red GT after selling my 2022 Model S, and I am in love with the Lucid!

Would like some feedback:

I drove from my home in Palo Alto to my work in LA yesterday, a distance of 312 miles. I had been led to believe that that was a reasonable range if I kept the speed on I-5 under 75. I arrived at work with a mere 20 miles left. So, it's uncomfortable in that respect. Is this the experience of others? I noticed:

1. The car was steady at 3.3 m/kw
2. The "miles remaining" indication is inaccurate and poorly calibrated. For every mile I traveled, the range remaining went down by an average of 1.35 miles. (This is one of the only two things that my Tesla did better.)
3. of note, I stopped at the EA at Harris Ranch on my return. There were 8 charging stations. Only 3 were functioning. One of those did not recognize my Lucid. Only two of 8 did, and those worked well. No doubt, EA is a problem. (This is the other thing, at Kettleman, there were over 60 functioning Tesla superchargers that all worked - whenever I tried them.)

Is my range experience typical?

Yes! I have been talking to tech and support about this issue for several weeks. I have an AGT with 21" wheels. I'm in FL. Most recent test over a few days showed 114 actual miles driven but lost 204 LUCID miles. While I too love the car, I think we all got sold a bridge about range.

 

[DeaneG]

Yes! I have been talking to tech and support about this issue for several weeks. I have an AGT with 21" wheels. I'm in FL. Most recent test over a few days showed 114 actual miles driven but lost 204 LUCID miles. While I too love the car, I think we all got sold a bridge about range.

EPA range is generally only loosely related to freeway range. Some manufacturers tend to use more conservative testing methods, others (Tesla and Lucid) not so much. But the Air's actual range is still far in excess of what you'd get in any other EV in the same conditions.

 

[sansonoma]

Yes! I have been talking to tech and support about this issue for several weeks. I have an AGT with 21" wheels. I'm in FL. Most recent test over a few days showed 114 actual miles driven but lost 204 LUCID miles. While I too love the car, I think we all got sold a bridge about range.

Yes, I do LOVE the car. I have 19". Again, it's fine as is, and I just love the car. Was hoping that I could make the Stanford to UCLA commute in one "go", however. And, in a sense, I could. Just 20 miles to go is uncomfortable. Truly, it's the best car I've ever owned and I am comparing it to my 2012 Jag XL and my 2022 Tesla Model S. I still own my 1972 MGB which is my second favorite!

 

[Coltonw011]

Yes, I do LOVE the car. I have 19". Again, it's fine as is, and I just love the car. Was hoping that I could make the Stanford to UCLA commute in one "go", however. And, in a sense, I could. Just 20 miles to go is uncomfortable. Truly, it's the best car I've ever owned and I am comparing it to my 2012 Jag XL and my 2022 Tesla Model S. I still own my 1972 MGB which is my second favorite!

I can say that after having my car for 6 months and achieving some great results on range. I may attempt that journey from their studio in Newark to Del Mar which is 475 miles, and I’m confident I can make it.

 

[MoniputerLM]

Just got my Zephyr Red GT after selling my 2022 Model S, and I am in love with the Lucid!

Would like some feedback:

I drove from my home in Palo Alto to my work in LA yesterday, a distance of 312 miles. I had been led to believe that that was a reasonable range if I kept the speed on I-5 under 75. I arrived at work with a mere 20 miles left. So, it's uncomfortable in that respect. Is this the experience of others? I noticed:

1. The car was steady at 3.3 m/kw
2. The "miles remaining" indication is inaccurate and poorly calibrated. For every mile I traveled, the range remaining went down by an average of 1.35 miles. (This is one of the only two things that my Tesla did better.)
3. of note, I stopped at the EA at Harris Ranch on my return. There were 8 charging stations. Only 3 were functioning. One of those did not recognize my Lucid. Only two of 8 did, and those worked well. No doubt, EA is a problem. (This is the other thing, at Kettleman, there were over 60 functioning Tesla superchargers that all worked - whenever I tried them.)

Is my range experience typical?

Yes, "the miles remaining indication is inaccurate and poorly calibrated", always has been but might get better with software updates.

 

[sansonoma]

I can say that after having my car for 6 months and achieving some great results on range. I may attempt that journey from their studio in Newark to Del Mar which is 475 miles, and I’m confident I can make it.

Let me know if that happens

 

[babwine]

EPA range is generally only loosely related to freeway range. Some manufacturers tend to use more conservative testing methods, others (Tesla and Lucid) not so much. But the Air's actual range is still far in excess of what you'd get in any other EV in the same conditions.

Nice try but hardly valid. My freeway mileage is only marginally better and while the LUCID does get better range than other EV's, their claims are too far from reality.