1000 mile update

Bill55

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I’m actually not quite at 1000, but working from home and have time so here is my 1000 mile summary.

Once I am in the car, out of the garage or parking space and driving with my music set, this car is awesome. Fast, quiet, smooth, comfortable, predictable in how it responds. I find the main dash to be clear and easy on the eyes. The mirrors are good, the blind spot detection is good. (I turned off the camera view when you signal) This is my first EV and I was comfortable with one pedal driving almost immediately on standard regen. The seats are very good. Some adjustments are only available through the touch screen. I have not found this to be an issue. Perhaps I slightly favor the seats in the Alpina B7, but no complaints with the Air. Longer drives I find the door arm rest too low and the center console to far back to comfortably rest my elbow with my hand on the wheel. The touch controls on the upper right hand screen are just a little bit of a stretch. I’m 6’2” and have the seat pretty far back. Not all the way back so taller drivers there is still adjustment left.

Here are the things I use every time in the car that are detracting from making the Air an absolute pleasure.
  1. Locking and unlocking. I’m using the key fob passively. Unlocking can be 6’ away or I can stand next to the car and wait. When your car doesn’t unlock when you want, it’s really annoying.

Proximity unlock should be on/off preference.

Unlock should be able to be set to driver only or all doors

When a locked driver door handle is pressed with a fob detected, unlock. This must work always and immediately. Always immediately. No excuses. No having to get fob out of a purse or a pocket. If I press any handle other than driver all doors should unlock, always and immediately.

Lock. If I press an unlocked handle, lock all doors immediately. Always and immediately. No excuses.

I’m fine with always locking when leaving, providing I can lock immediately as above. Perhaps that should be an on/off feature also.

2. Homelink. Exit garage, park assist activates, press home link (cameras go away), press garage door, press to reactivate park assist. (Park assist = cameras and distance). In every other car I can use homelink physical button without looking to close door. I push one physical button, not 3 touch screen buttons to get to same status.

3. Park distance / cameras. This system presents the driver with bad information and parking is a cacophony of sounds, busy graphics, and false warnings. Today I backed my Yukon into a space with a car on each side and to the rear. The park distance made one soft tone. I was less than 18” from the cars to the sides and about 12” to the rear. Doing this in the Air, would result in so much information being relayed to me, and none of it relevant. I would rather just turn it off and use my mirrors. NO. I don’t want to do that, I want a system that helps me.

4. I’m not going to go into Music / Nav controls interface. Every time I try to do something with the music the car warns me to watch the road. Once there is CarPlay that is what the vast majority will use, second will be android, and a distant third will be the native apps.

5. Can I have an option to press Park twice and turn off the car? Or at least turn off when I open the door. I’m 20’ from the car and my pod cast is still going.

6. Comfort access. I don’t care about this feature. My wife who is 5’0” thinks the car is unworthy of the price we paid because every other vehicle we own or have owned this century had it. She can not exit the car easily from her seating position and can not enter easily because she is too close to the wheel. Pressing P twice to turn off the car could also active comfort access or opening door. The seat goes back and wheel goes forward. Getting in the car shutting the door activates the seat / wheel going to the profile setting. Every Luxury competitor has this standard. Honda has it, GMC has it, Ford has it…..Please, convince my wife this is not a car designed by men for men. Comfort access plus the inconsistent lock/unlock, with no driver door only unlock option, she doesn’t feel safe or comfortable with the car as a driver, she loves it as a passenger.

There are some other items with the interface that could be better, for me, everything else is ok and I’m looking forward to improvements.

I would like more range information like what is my current use of KWh per mile not just the average. If I’m on the highway at 80, perhaps info of how much further I could go at 75, or 70, or 65. A range mode with suggestions and perhaps a flatter accelerator pedal curve.

My commute I don’t care about range, next year I plan to do some road trips where I will care very much.

This car is very close to winning my heart.

I drove my 2013 427, 6 speed Corvette today. Doesn’t feel particularly quick after the Air. It locks and unlocks as requested above every time with the key in my pocket. Everything else is a physical button and I don’t have to worry about touch screens, cameras, or park distance because it doesn’t have them. Homelink is 3 buttons on the visor. No look operation.

Really looking forward to the next few software updates for the Air.
 
Nice write up, Bill.

After reading your HomeLink description, I’m beginning to see why Bob’s initial pictures showed his garage remote hanging on the side. That might be easier. Certainly a single, conventional button on the mirror would be easier. Tesla’s system was excellent with its geofencing. Nothing to do, garage door and gates open automatically with no button pressing. One of the things Tesla did right.

Regarding the music & Nav, how long does the car give you before it gets upset that your eyes are not on the road? Can this be turned off or is it heavily integrated into the system?

Hopefully the other annoyances are solved via OTA updates.
 
Thanks for the update. I was under the impression the right screen is supposed to display track and info without the need to look down?
 
Hey Bill, you can turn off that driver monitoring thing. It's super sensitive and you get like 2 seconds to look away. I agree with you on most other things. Homelink is pretty annoying and is why I started to just use the remote until it gets changed. Originally, it was because I didn't want to set it up for every driver profile, but after using it a while, because of the way my gates are set up and my driveway, I need to exit out of parking mode, hit the homelink and hit the correct gate to open.
 
@hydbob and @Bill55 I hope lucid is monitoring this forum. Solution seems for the driver alert needs to be speed sensitive and mode sensitive. With ADAS it should be only when that's on?

Are there any physical buttons in car homelink can be trained to?
 
@hydbob and @Bill55 I hope lucid is monitoring this forum. Solution seems for the driver alert needs to be speed sensitive and mode sensitive. With ADAS it should be only when that's on?

Are there any physical buttons in car homelink can be trained to?
Not that I've found yet, so probably not unless they enable it somewhere. They already had an update where it made the driver monitoring less sensitive, but to be honest it warns me when I have looked away too long. It's annoying because I can judge when it's safe to look away to do something, but frankly, it's doing its job properly.
 
As long as cars are going to ‘touch screens for everything’, then they must factor that in when determining how long to allow for eyes to be glancing at the screen and not on the road.
 
You can turn off the driver attention. It seems to give you a fair amount of time. I don’t find it intrusive, I have it on. The music interface has layers and buttons that move around, hard to use while driving.
 
Thanks for the update. I was under the impression the right screen is supposed to display track and info without the need to look down?
It’s changing sources that I don’t find easy to use. Once you have a source playing it is fine.
 
HomeLink description . . . Tesla’s system was excellent with its geofencing. Nothing to do, garage door and gates open automatically with no button pressing

Our 2015 Tesla opened its garage door automatically as we approached. The new Model S Plaid does not seem to have that feature. And it is very annoying to use. We approach our garage doors by coming around a circular island in the driveway. Although the car is displaying the "open" icon upon our approach, it won't actually operate the door until we complete the turn and are facing the door straight on. (Our Honda Odyssey's Homelink button will open its garage door all the way from the bottom of the driveway, so that the garage is open by the time we arrive at the door.) Also, if anyone unsnaps their seatbelt early, as I often do when I'm the passenger to gather things I'm taking out of the car, the Homelink icon ceases to operate the door. Apparently the software thinks it is unsafe to drive into a garage while not wearing a seatbelt. I have to refasten my seatbelt to get the door to operate. And it's the same thing in reverse. If a passenger who is doing things such as putting on sunglasses, parking a cell phone, storing things, etc., hasn't yet buckled up, the driver has to sit in the driveway waiting for all the seatbelts to be fastened before the "close" icon will activate the door.
 
I have only experimented with Alexa a little. Alexa does require a solid internet connection. I have not left southern California and have always been in places where I have at&t signal on iPhone, yet I have had Nav and streaming music from prime and Spotify drop frequently. The car also makes no attempt to restart playback when a streaming service pauses for lack of signal. Also, even with my limited trials, I’ve had Alexa be unresponsive. I like controls that work all the time with or without an internet connection.
 
I had wondered why with the advancement of satellite internet they just didn't go satellite. Would have been far more future proof and even more groundbreaking. OTA should have been satellite.
 
Cost prohibitive most likely
 
I had wondered why with the advancement of satellite internet they just didn't go satellite. Would have been far more future proof and even more groundbreaking. OTA should have been satellite.
Satellite internet is extremely slow, unless you have StarLink. But StarLink requires a fairly large antenna array and may not be suitable for on-road use.
 
Satellite internet is extremely slow, unless you have StarLink. But StarLink requires a fairly large antenna array and may not be suitable for on-road use.
Worse than that, Iridium and Starlink are the only two Low Earth Orbit (LEO) constellations and Starlink is not fully up yet so coverage is spotty in southern regions. Iridium has limited bandwidth since it was originally intended for voice calls. LEO are less directional and lower power than the geostationary satellite internet. The geostationary satellites (HughesNet and Viasat) require a larger antenna than Starlink with precise alignment to the satellite. Hard to do on the road. It also suffers from latency in addition to slow speeds.
 
I completely understand. I was under the impression most OTA updates are done at night?
 
Satellite signal is dependent on line of sight - your antenna must "see" the satellite. So the signal is lost in your garage, forests, and tall office building environments (like downtown LA). Not practical for OTA. Satellite internet is definitely not ready for high bandwidth usage. The only function that should depend on satellites is the nav. GPS is a proven, reliable, and accurate service and as others have pointed out, available where cell service may not exist.
 
. . . I have had Nav and streaming music from prime and Spotify drop frequently.

Yeah, our Spotify signals drop out all the time in our Model S Plaid and won't restart. Makes we wish for a CD changer in the glovebox as a backup when I'm on the road.

None of this streaming and internet-based everything is ready for prime time, from door latches to music to garage door opening.
 
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