Can you set a charging "off" time?

[DeaneG]

The issue I've run into is that the lucid dies not recognize when the charger wakes up without first recognizing it is attached to a live charging cable. If I plug in and don't disable supply side scheduling the lucid eventually forgets that it was plugged in and won't be triggered by the chargepoint turning on. If anyone has a chargepoint and had been successful with other behavior I'm all ears. It seems that 1) this is an issue with lucid software and hardware that isn't simple to fix 2) I wouldn't know if I needed to change my behavior given update release notes aren't very detailed

Right, I was thinking that the charger would be on and ready to charge for 23 hours of the day, all day except for 7am-8am. Having the Air set to begin charging at midnight should then work any time you plug the Air in, except between 7am and 8am.

 

[Unmutual]

For those using Home Assistant, I have two automations that address this. First, I use HA to wake the car up two minutes before my Enphase EVSE is scheduled to start charging--the car is then awake when charging starts and has no issues. Next, I use HA to adjust the charge limit downward once my target limit is reached (I set the limit to 83% and then have HA drop the limit to 80%--this prevents the "topping up" problem.

 

[scal_air]

Isn't the energy of a "top off" pretty minimal? When I wake the car using the app, I'm greeted with charging started follow by charging complete about a minute later.

 

[Pragmatic]

I believe the NYS incentives are based on NEVER charging the var during certain hours (if you never charge between 7am and midnight we will send you a check for $25 each month).

 

[AJfromDaBay]

I have found the Scheduled Charging feature and have set my car to not charge until 12:01 when the off-peak times start. But I also want to make sure it never charges past 7:00 in the morning. I am usually fully charged by then but not always. Also, when I wake the car up after several hours, it wants to do a quick charge to top off. I want to avoid this because (i) I don't want to have to manually stop the charging through the app each time before unplugging and (ii) NY ConEd gives me rebate $$ if I only charge during off-peak and I don't want to lose that because the car does a quick 2 minute top off charge when I wake it at 8:30.

Is there a way to set a range time for charging instead of just a start time

I’ve been asking lucid for this for a while too.
As of the current version 2.2.1, their software still only has charge start time only without precise control of the days to activate. At least they fixed it so you can use a charger with built in scheduling, in 2.1.x versions the car used to fall asleep and never charge when plugged in to a ev charger with built in scheduling.
I would recommend email their support team ask them. The more people ask the more they seem to put in the effort to modify and correct their software.

 

[AJfromDaBay]

The issue I've run into is that the lucid dies not recognize when the charger wakes up without first recognizing it is attached to a live charging cable. If I plug in and don't disable supply side scheduling the lucid eventually forgets that it was plugged in and won't be triggered by the chargepoint turning on. If anyone has a chargepoint and had been successful with other behavior I'm all ears. It seems that 1) this is an issue with lucid software and hardware that isn't simple to fix 2) I wouldn't know if I needed to change my behavior given update release notes aren't very detailed

Actually this issue was fixed in the recent lucid update v2.2.1.

 

[DeaneG]

Actually this issue was fixed in the recent lucid update v2.2.1.

?? It doesn't seem to be fixed in my car, software version 2.6.0.

 

[pyle112]

Actually this issue was fixed in the recent lucid update v2.2.1.

Which issue? There's like 2 or 3 in my post
1) allowing supply side scheduling?
2) time out after being plugged in without supply side charge?
3) chargepoint specific behavior?

 

[scal_air]

I believe the NYS incentives are based on NEVER charging the var during certain hours (if you never charge between 7am and midnight we will send you a check for $25 each month).

How do they know the electricity you use is for charging your car unless you're on a separate meter?

 

[DeaneG]

How do they know the electricity you use is for charging your car unless you're on a separate meter?

They get the data from the EVSE. Only certain units are eligible for the program.

 

[pyle112]

How do they know the electricity you use is for charging your car unless you're on a separate meter?

They register your charger and can interface with usage

 

[scal_air]

 

[AJfromDaBay]

Which issue? There's like 2 or 3 in my post
1) allowing supply side scheduling?
2) time out after being plugged in without supply side charge?
3) chargepoint specific behavior?

1) and 2)

 

[AJfromDaBay]

?? It doesn't seem to be fixed in my car, software version 2.6.0.

I can share a quick video on this for my car if it helps.
I can cover this.
1) I will set my home ev charger to off to mimic it turning off during peak energy times
2) Lucid will recognize this but not fall asleep anymore (on the ev charging side at least) and will be ready to receive energy when the ev charger turn on
(this is what was fixed in the update. Before it used to fall asleep and not charge unless I open the app.)
3) I will turn on the ev charger and Lucid will start charging.
I will keep my phone as key away the whole time so it doesn’t skew the test by waking the car.

Also my apologies,

Actually this issue was fixed in the recent lucid update v2.2.1.

Yes I meant latest cars version 2.6.x, I got the cars sw confused with app sw version.
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Lucid OTA Updates

www.lucidupdates.com

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See the release notes on charging.

 

[AJfromDaBay]

I can share a quick video on this for my car if it helps.
I can cover this.
1) I will set my home ev charger to off to mimic it turning off during peak energy times
2) Lucid will recognize this but not fall asleep anymore (on the ev charging side at least) and will be ready to receive energy when the ev charger turn on
(this is what was fixed in the update. Before it used to fall asleep and not charge unless I open the app.)
3) I will turn on the ev charger and Lucid will start charging.
I will keep my phone as key away the whole time so it doesn’t skew the test by waking the car.

Also my apologies,

Yes I meant latest cars version 2.6.x, I got the cars sw confused with app sw version.
———

Lucid OTA Updates

www.lucidupdates.com

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See the release notes on charging.

I guess they didn’t include this particular fix in the release notes. But Lucids customer care emailed me after this update asking me to check if this issue was resolved.

Charging

•We have improved the overall error notifications for Charging features, so when a problem is encountered, the error notification will be more specific to the problem seen.

 

[pyle112]

I can share a quick video on this for my car if it helps.
I can cover this.
1) I will set my home ev charger to off to mimic it turning off during peak energy times
2) Lucid will recognize this but not fall asleep anymore (on the ev charging side at least) and will be ready to receive energy when the ev charger turn on
(this is what was fixed in the update. Before it used to fall asleep and not charge unless I open the app.)
3) I will turn on the ev charger and Lucid will start charging.
I will keep my phone as key away the whole time so it doesn’t skew the test by waking the car.

Also my apologies,

Yes I meant latest cars version 2.6.x, I got the cars sw confused with app sw version.
———

Lucid OTA Updates

www.lucidupdates.com

——-
See the release notes on charging.

Cool. I'll give it a try

 

[DeaneG]

Cool. I'll give it a try

Please post your results! This one had been a real headache for me.

 

[pyle112]

Please post your results! This one had been a real headache for me.

It worked! Just plugged it in and it woke up at midnight! Nice to have one less rain dance!

 

[DeaneG]

It worked! Just plugged it in and it woke up at midnight! Nice to have one less rain dance!

Mine definitely still has the same problem. If my EVSE doesn't allow the car to charge right when I plug the car in, the car goes to sleep after a while and does not wake up until I ping it by opening the phone app. Then it'll start charging if the EVSE is ready to supply current.

 

[pyle112]

Mine definitely still has the same problem. If my EVSE doesn't allow the car to charge right when I plug the car in, the car goes to sleep after a while and does not wake up until I ping it by opening the phone app. Then it'll start charging if the EVSE is ready to supply current.

Hmmmm. I was definitely surprised that it said connected and I didn't check the app until the next morning. I have a chargepoint. What about you?