Recent loss of range

[rao_94583]

We took our car on a ~1500 mile trip over the break to Southern California, and noticed on the way back that the car seemed to be getting substantially lower range. I haven't analyzed it, but I'm guessing something like a 25% drop.

One of the tires had been losing air for a couple of weeks, and when we took it to America's Tire, they did in fact discover a huge nail in the tire. I was certain that was the culprit, but the range loss continues. My wife has to charge the car every day now (for her daily 50 mile commute).

I'll put in a service request, but in the meantime, I wonder if anyone has had a similar experience.

 

[elusive7]

Unsure of where you were driving back to, but cold temps really destroy our batteries quick, almost quicker than any other factor. In the Illinois winters here I go from getting ~350 real world miles of range on my AT to ~200 when its single digits outside.

 

[hydbob]

We took our car on a ~1500 mile trip over the break to Southern California, and noticed on the way back that the car seemed to be getting substantially lower range. I haven't analyzed it, but I'm guessing something like a 25% drop.

One of the tires had been losing air for a couple of weeks, and when we took it to America's Tire, they did in fact discover a huge nail in the tire. I was certain that was the culprit, but the range loss continues. My wife has to charge the car every day now (for her daily 50 mile commute).

I'll put in a service request, but in the meantime, I wonder if anyone has had a similar experience.

Everyday for 50 milee? That's crazy and not normal at all

 

[Tâm]

We took our car on a ~1500 mile trip over the break to Southern California, and noticed on the way back that the car seemed to be getting substantially lower range. I haven't analyzed it, but I'm guessing something like a 25% drop.

One of the tires had been losing air for a couple of weeks, and when we took it to America's Tire, they did in fact discover a huge nail in the tire. I was certain that was the culprit, but the range loss continues. My wife has to charge the car every day now (for her daily 50 mile commute).

I'll put in a service request, but in the meantime, I wonder if anyone has had a similar experience.

Energy consumption (thus range) depends on many factors: temperature, traffic, speed, lead foot...

It would be helpful if you can clarify about your experience such as your car battery gauge on the dashboard says 300 miles at the start and after traveling 50 miles, it used to say 200 but today it only says 150 (it used to take 50 miles extra battery miles for the trip but today it takes an extra 100 battery miles for the same 50 mile trip...)

 

[Blue Lectroid]

We took our car on a ~1500 mile trip over the break to Southern California, and noticed on the way back that the car seemed to be getting substantially lower range. I haven't analyzed it, but I'm guessing something like a 25% drop.

One of the tires had been losing air for a couple of weeks, and when we took it to America's Tire, they did in fact discover a huge nail in the tire. I was certain that was the culprit, but the range loss continues. My wife has to charge the car every day now (for her daily 50 mile commute).

I'll put in a service request, but in the meantime, I wonder if anyone has had a similar experience.

I am confused. You don’t have enough range to do a 50 mile trip (100 miles round trip) at least 2-3 times without charging?

Are you experiencing really cold temperatures?

 

[Nephron]

Everyday for 50 milee? That's crazy and not normal at all

That’s in 14 months .so avg 110 everyday

 

[Cosmo Cruz]

Are you experiencing really cold temperatures?

He has Lucid's new stripped-down "economy" class vehicle: they call it "The Lunar Rover". ~ 4 degrees Kelvin

Remote delivery available.

proves that when it gets REALLY cold, EVs are the go-to vehicle.

(there is a bank of EA 350 chargers on the moon, but they are all currently out-of-service)

 

[Electrified]

We took our car on a ~1500 mile trip over the break to Southern California, and noticed on the way back that the car seemed to be getting substantially lower range. I haven't analyzed it, but I'm guessing something like a 25% drop.

One of the tires had been losing air for a couple of weeks, and when we took it to America's Tire, they did in fact discover a huge nail in the tire. I was certain that was the culprit, but the range loss continues. My wife has to charge the car every day now (for her daily 50 mile commute).

I'll put in a service request, but in the meantime, I wonder if anyone has had a similar experience.

You need to call Lucid Service.

 

[rao_94583]

Thanks for the responses -- I have a call into Lucid Service.

To clarify: we're in the SF Bay Area, and the trip was to the LA area. Not really that cold at all. We took our e-tron GT on that same trip, and it behaved pretty much as usual. By the time we got back, I'm pretty sure the Audi had better range (rated at 238). Yesterday, my wife tells me that she drove 72 miles, but the displayed range dropped by ~130 miles.

There's no way to display instantaneous or average efficiency on these cars, is there?

 

[Tâm]

drove 72 miles, but the displayed range dropped by ~130 miles.

Each brand with each driver don't always get the EPA mileage. Thus, after a drive of 72 miles in this case, I would take note and I won't drive off the same drive without making sure that the battery gauge says 150.

In this case you lost additional 58 battery miles.

For my practice, I don't drive until I got at least 150 to 200 miles extra on the battery gauge.

In summary, there's nothing wrong with your car. Just learn how much your car needs and charge the extra miles.

There's no way to display instantaneous or average efficiency on these cars, is there?

On the "Trip" screen, you can take note how many miles your car got per kWh.

 

[rao_94583]

Each brand with each driver don't always get the EPA mileage. Thus, after a drive of 72 miles in this case, I would take note and I won't drive off the same drive without making sure that the battery gauge says 150.

In this case you lost additional 58 battery miles.

For my practice, I don't drive until I got at least 150 to 200 miles extra on the battery gauge.

In summary, there's nothing wrong with your car. Just learn how much your car needs and charge the extra miles.



On the "Trip" screen, you can take note how many miles your car got per kWh.

We've had the car for more than two years, and I'm pretty sure there is something wrong with it!

 

[momo3605]

Thanks for the responses -- I have a call into Lucid Service.

To clarify: we're in the SF Bay Area, and the trip was to the LA area. Not really that cold at all. We took our e-tron GT on that same trip, and it behaved pretty much as usual. By the time we got back, I'm pretty sure the Audi had better range (rated at 238). Yesterday, my wife tells me that she drove 72 miles, but the displayed range dropped by ~130 miles.

There's no way to display instantaneous or average efficiency on these cars, is there?

Yup. Agreed with @Tâm. Driving 72 miles but losing 130 of displayed range is normal. If you’re not driving in a particularly efficient manner, doing 80mph, or driving in cold weather, with the heater cranked, or hills, this can be normal. My wife also is not the most efficient driver and complains to me about the same regularly

 

[vav493]

Yup. Agreed with @Tâm. Driving 72 miles but losing 130 of displayed range is normal. If you’re not driving in a particularly efficient manner, doing 80mph, or driving in cold weather, with the heater cranked, or hills, this can be normal. My wife also is not the most efficient driver and complains to me about the same regularly

I feel like a lot of this would be solved if they would just allow the estimated range to be based on actual miles/kWh instead of forcing us to think about the EPA rated miles/kWh we aren’t getting.

 

[Bobby]

I feel like a lot of this would be solved if they would just allow the estimated range to be based on actual miles/kWh instead of forcing us to think about the EPA rated miles/kWh we aren’t getting.

My personal #1 wish.

 

[Tâm]

I feel like a lot of this would be solved if they would just allow the estimated range to be based on actual miles/kWh instead of forcing us to think about the EPA rated miles/kWh we aren’t getting.

That won't help for those who are concerned about loss of range.

My car would display 516 when new and that is consistent with EPA rating.

However, I don't put my car on a laboratory treadmill to drive so my actual driven would be less, like about 400. If the car battery gauge would display 400 when full then someone would be concerned that there's a loss of 116 miles and something must be wrong.

In reality, there's nothing wrong with the car. If a driver is disciplined and patient enough to learn the art of "hypermilers," the EPA number can be beaten too.

Watch Lucid Air Set New Hypermiling Record Of 687 Miles

A team of YouTube influencers drove the Lucid Air Dream Edition Range at a constant speed of 27 mph to find out how far it can go on a full battery charge.

insideevs.com

 

[Bobby]

That won't help for those who are concerned about loss of range.

My car would display 516 when new and that is consistent with EPA rating.

However, I don't put my car on a laboratory treadmill to drive so my actual driven would be less, like about 400. If the car battery gauge would display 400 when full then someone would be concerned that there's a loss of 116 miles and something must be wrong.

In reality, there's nothing wrong with the car. If a driver is disciplined and patient enough to learn the art of "hypermilers," the EPA number can be beaten too.

Watch Lucid Air Set New Hypermiling Record Of 687 Miles

A team of YouTube influencers drove the Lucid Air Dream Edition Range at a constant speed of 27 mph to find out how far it can go on a full battery charge.

insideevs.com

The best bet would be to display both. And have a screen telling the driver why his actual range is not optimal.

 

[vav493]

That won't help for those who are concerned about loss of range.

My car would display 516 when new and that is consistent with EPA rating.

However, I don't put my car on a laboratory treadmill to drive so my actual driven would be less, like about 400. If the car battery gauge would display 400 when full then someone would be concerned that there's a loss of 116 miles and something must be wrong.

In reality, there's nothing wrong with the car. If a driver is disciplined and patient enough to learn the art of "hypermilers," the EPA number can be beaten too.

Watch Lucid Air Set New Hypermiling Record Of 687 Miles

A team of YouTube influencers drove the Lucid Air Dream Edition Range at a constant speed of 27 mph to find out how far it can go on a full battery charge.

insideevs.com

How would it not help? I agree, “in reality, nothing is wrong with the car” but I don’t need or want to constantly be wondering whether or not I actually have 462 miles of range or having to do the mental gymnastics that I actually only have approximately 330 miles (or less lmfao) based on my actual driving. What do you think then that people are attributing to range loss?
Also, I don’t think people would consider range displayed as actual miles/kWh * battery kWH capacity differing from EPA rated as “range loss” … that’s almost how all the ICE cars operate (and no one cries), Tesla, and (I’d hope) other EVs from legacy manufacturers? People are accustomed to the calculated range varying with driving behavior.

 

[vav493]

The best bet would be to display both. And have a screen telling the driver why his actual range is not optimal.

That’s a good compromise; I suppose also what Tesla does haha

 

[momo3605]

The best bet would be to display both. And have a screen telling the driver why his actual range is not optimal.

Something like this?

 

[Blue Lectroid]

The best bet would be to display both. And have a screen telling the driver why his actual range is not optimal.

EXACTLY!