What MpKW for rated range?

[Dsk101867]

So my lifetime MpKW is about 3.1 (about 3,000 miles to date).

Does anyone know what the MpKW needs to be in order to hit the rated range? That would be really helpful information.

And I can't remember who did it, but the Siri command to calculate true range is absolutely fantastic, every Lucid owner should be using it.

 

[hydbob]

So my lifetime MpKW is about 3.1 (about 3,000 miles to date).

Does anyone know what the MpKW needs to be in order to hit the rated range? That would be really helpful information.

And I can't remember who did it, but the Siri command to calculate true range is absolutely fantastic, every Lucid owner should be using it.

What car/wheel combo do you have?

 

[Halodde]

For some reason, 4.6 is sticking in my head. But that might just be for my car and configuration

 

[Sandvinsd]

For some reason, 4.6 is sticking in my head. But that might just be for my car and configuration

4.6 is for a GT on 19” wheels

 

[segbrk]

So my lifetime MpKW is about 3.1 (about 3,000 miles to date).

Does anyone know what the MpKW needs to be in order to hit the rated range? That would be really helpful information.

It's simple to figure out:

Find the specs for your model at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_Air#Models
That says Air Pure battery capacity is 88 kWh. I think I remember there's some nuance to that with different versions of the Pure, but we'll go with it for now.
Your EPA rated range on 19" rims with OEM A/S tires is 410 miles.
410 miles / 88 kWh = 4.66 mi/kWh.

The EPA tests are not currently very representative of normal driving. However, you can do much better than 3.1 depending on (primarily):
1. Your speed. The most efficient zone is around 55mph. I know that's not fun and I don't suggest you spend all your time there, but keep in mind efficiency drops exponentially with speed. If you're planning on hypermiling on a road trip, pop on that cruise control to 65mph or whatever is safe, get in the slow lane, relax. Day to day, don't worry about it.
2. Your acceleration. It may be obvious, but it's hard to resist. Don't floor it from every light if you want the best mileage. Be gentle.
3.. Weather. Low temps are not good for range. Rain is not good for range.
4. Tire pressure. Use a real tire gauge, keep your tires at the recommended levels. Or potentially even higher, depending on which tires you have.

EPA efficiency is achievable, but don't try to achieve it as a daily average or you'll have no fun.

 

[Halodde]

4.6 is for a GT on 19” wheels

Must be the same for my Touring with 19's and aero inserts, right?

 

[Dsk101867]

What car/wheel combo do you have?

I have a Pure with 19" wheels.

 

[Dsk101867]

It's simple to figure out:

Find the specs for your model at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_Air#Models
That says Air Pure battery capacity is 88 kWh. I think I remember there's some nuance to that with different versions of the Pure, but we'll go with it for now.
Your EPA rated range on 19" rims with OEM A/S tires is 410 miles.
410 miles / 88 kWh = 4.66 mi/kWh.

The EPA tests are not currently very representative of normal driving. However, you can do much better than 3.1 depending on (primarily):
1. Your speed. The most efficient zone is around 55mph. I know that's not fun and I don't suggest you spend all your time there, but keep in mind efficiency drops exponentially with speed. If you're planning on hypermiling on a road trip, pop on that cruise control to 65mph or whatever is safe, get in the slow lane, relax. Day to day, don't worry about it.
2. Your acceleration. It may be obvious, but it's hard to resist. Don't floor it from every light if you want the best mileage. Be gentle.
3.. Weather. Low temps are not good for range. Rain is not good for range.
4. Tire pressure. Use a real tire gauge, keep your tires at the recommended levels. Or potentially even higher, depending on which tires you have.

EPA efficiency is achievable, but don't try to achieve it as a daily average or you'll have no fun.

I drive mostly locally, keep it in smooth 99% of the time, and do not accelerate crazily (most of the time ).

Granted, we had a cold winter in NJ, but I feel like I should be far higher than 3.1 given how I drive. Car is going in for service this weekend for drivers side noise/air leaking, they are going to run diagnostics to see why I'm lower than expected.

 

[DeaneG]

I drive mostly locally...

City driving is inefficient compared to a steady highway speed.

 

[LucidDude]

It's interesting that you guys are asking this question because I've been going back and forth with Lucid service about my car. I'm at 3.2 for the whole life of my car (GT w/ 19" wheels). I strongly feel like my MpKW noticeably dropped after the OTA this last March. (NOTE: I got my car in January of this year.) They claim they tested it last month and got 4.6 in their curated test but I'm not accepting that. Especially because the loaner they gave me while my car was in the shop was clearly getting a higher number than my car. (Same driver, same roads, same times of day, same temp, etc.)

I was curious to know if anyone else noticed a difference around that March timeframe or was it always losing about 35% of it's range for you guys?

 

[deepakb]

It's interesting that you guys are asking this question because I've been going back and forth with Lucid service about my car. I'm at 3.2 for the whole life of my car (GT w/ 19" wheels). I strongly feel like my MpKW noticeably dropped after the OTA this last March. (NOTE: I got my car in January of this year.) They claim they tested it last month and got 4.6 in their curated test but I'm not accepting that. Especially because the loaner they gave me while my car was in the shop was clearly getting a higher number than my car. (Same driver, same roads, same times of day, same temp, etc.)

I was curious to know if anyone else noticed a difference around that March timeframe or was it always losing about 35% of it's range for you guys?

Mine I see reduced efficiency in the last one month but i attribute that to more of the weather in bayarea and the AC constantly running to keep up with above 100 temps. Also i do more city miles now than freeway miles.

 

[LucidDude]

Mine I see reduced efficiency in the last one month but i attribute that to more of the weather in bay area and the AC constantly running to keep up with above 100 temps. Also i do more city miles now than freeway miles.

I wonder if anyone else felt like a loaner car was getting better efficiency than their own car

 

[borski]

I wonder if anyone else felt like a loaner car was getting better efficiency than their own car

Mine is, but it’s hard to compare.

1) it’s on 19s, and mine is on 21s
2) it’s a GT, and I have a DE-P
3) it’s black, which is known to be more efficient but also far more boring

 

[LucidDude]

Hey all, I was wondering if any of you down in So. Cal. noticed a major reduction range with this heat recently. It seems like I'm losing 40% of my range and Lucid is saying that normal in the heat. What's weird is that my Lexus RZ isn't experiencing the same loss of range with this heat.

 

[Buffalo Bob]

It's simple to figure out:

Find the specs for your model at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_Air#Models
That says Air Pure battery capacity is 88 kWh. I think I remember there's some nuance to that with different versions of the Pure, but we'll go with it for now.
Your EPA rated range on 19" rims with OEM A/S tires is 410 miles.
410 miles / 88 kWh = 4.66 mi/kWh.

The EPA tests are not currently very representative of normal driving. However, you can do much better than 3.1 depending on (primarily):
1. Your speed. The most efficient zone is around 55mph. I know that's not fun and I don't suggest you spend all your time there, but keep in mind efficiency drops exponentially with speed. If you're planning on hypermiling on a road trip, pop on that cruise control to 65mph or whatever is safe, get in the slow lane, relax. Day to day, don't worry about it.
2. Your acceleration. It may be obvious, but it's hard to resist. Don't floor it from every light if you want the best mileage. Be gentle.
3.. Weather. Low temps are not good for range. Rain is not good for range.
4. Tire pressure. Use a real tire gauge, keep your tires at the recommended levels. Or potentially even higher, depending on which tires you have.

EPA efficiency is achievable, but don't try to achieve it as a daily average or you'll have no fun.

Wikipedia has a number of errors. The 2023 Pure AWDs have the same 92 kWh battery as the 2023 Touring, with an EPA range of 410 miles on 19" all season tires, so it rounds to 4.5 miles per kWh. Actually, the Pure AWD's hardware components (i.e. battery, motors, and total weight) are exactly the same as the 2023 Touring. The only visual differences are cosmetic, such as leather seats, and the increased 2023 Touring's horsepower is purely software driven.

 

[terrycs]

Hey all, I was wondering if any of you down in So. Cal. noticed a major reduction range with this heat recently. It seems like I'm losing 40% of my range and Lucid is saying that normal in the heat. What's weird is that my Lexus RZ isn't experiencing the same loss of range with this heat.

I've been leaving it on Max Cool for longer. Currently at about 2.5 mi/kWh

 

[Daniel2022AT]

City driving is inefficient compared to a steady highway speed.

Actually EV’s are more efficient with city driving. It is counter intuitive, but a combination of slower speeds plus heavy regen creates higher efficiency.

 

[hydbob]

Actually EV’s are more efficient with city driving. It is counter intuitive, but a combination of slower speeds plus heavy regen creates higher efficiency.

The Lucid is the opposite.

 

[HC_79]

Actually EV’s are more efficient with city driving. It is counter intuitive, but a combination of slower speeds plus heavy regen creates higher efficiency.

Depends on the EV, Lucid is the opposite. It’s a VERY heavy car so won’t perform as well around town or in stop & go traffic purely for the extra energy it needs to get itself moving etc.