We’re safe. Thank you Lucid

[fstalley]

As an Enthusiastic Lucid owner for over two years now, I must agree with all that has been said with the software issues including the comments concerning transparency. I was told the problem with satellite reception lies in the design of the antenna system. Until the position is changed the problem will not improve. BUT NOW ON TO SOME BETTER lIFE SAVING LUCID NEWS
My daughter was involved in a head on frontal collision with a car that pulled out in front of her.
She was going 40 mph down a main road when a car pulled out from a side street and she Teed it. The other car was so damaged that the driver had to be rescued with the “Jaws of Life”. However our lucid AGT was barely damaged. We could open and close the frunk and she was able to drive the car home. My only concern was that the air bags did not deploy, but perhaps the impact to our car was not severe enough to activate them. The firemen were totally amazed at how little damage was inflicted to the Lucid especially when so much damage the other car suffered!

 

[Rogue]

The lack of air bag deployment is starting to become a pattern. At 40 mph, I would have presumed them to go off. Myself and others in accidents have had the same "issue" of a lack of airbag response, though no injuries.

So is the car correctly not deploying the air bags, or are the systems functioning with a better understanding of deployment needs given a set amount of G-force compared to other cars?

 

[msaunders9430]

Glad your daughter is ok.

 

[idiot900]

Most importantly your daughter and (I assume) the other driver are safe!

Other car looks like a late 1990s Toyota Camry to me. Speaks to how much safety has improved in car design (and, of course, how much the weight difference matters).

 

[Coho]

Glad everyone is ok. Will be interesting to hear what Lucid finds in terms of Lucid damage. Sometimes air bags trigger but dont fully deploy but still require replacement. As others on the forum have noted, repairs can be crazy expensive. But the car did what it needed to do. Reassuring.

 

[MGRMLN]

Glad everyone was ok. The driver that was t-boned appears to be the luckiest of all. That was close!

 

[fstalley]

The lack of air bag deployment is starting to become a pattern. At 40 mph, I would have presumed them to go off. Myself and others in accidents have had the same "issue" of a lack of airbag response, though no injuries.

So is the car correctly not deploying the air bags, or are the systems functioning with a better understanding of deployment needs given a set amount of G-force compared to other cars?

I think the systems are working correctly and the car did not sense the need to deploy

 

[terrycs]

Glad to hear there were no serious injuries. I have a feeling the Air didn't experience enough deceleration combined with the impact to set off the airbags? I'm curious to know what the hidden damages are though. Looks like there is a lot.

 

[jbawden]

Seems like the air bag algorithms and logic have improved a lot. The fact that the Lucid driver sustained no injuries is a least one data point that air bags would have done nothing to improve the outcome and would have added thousands of dollars to the repair bill (not to mention the potential burns from certain airbag deployments). The wet roads probably played a small roll in allowing the Corolla to slide away from the air as well.

 

[LucidGoosey]

Wow, glad everyone is alright. Metal and glass can be replaced, people can't.

These are heavy cars and like other folks have said, norms have somewhere changed in the past 30 years.

 

[Amster]

I'm glad everyone was okay! I'm sure your daughter was pretty shaken up. I'm curious about the airbags not deploying. It looks like they didn't need to, and the Air was smart enough to know that. Have there been times when they needed to deploy and didn't?

 

[OCDC]

From the NHTSA site:

Why do air bags sometimes fail to deploy during a crash? ​

The activation of an air bag in a crash is dependent on several important factors including: the characteristics of the crash (e.g., speed, other vehicles involved, impact direction); the individual vehicle air bag system's design strategy; and the crash sensor locations. Air bags are not intended to deploy in all crashes. There may be circumstances when an air bag does not deploy. Some possible examples follow:

• The crash conditions may be sufficiently moderate where an air bag would not be needed to protect an occupant wearing a seat belt. The seat belt may provide sufficient protection from a head or chest injury in such a crash.
• Many advanced frontal air bag systems automatically turn off the passenger air bag when the vehicle detects a small-stature passenger or child, a child in a child restraint system, or no occupant in the right front passenger seat.
• Some advanced side air bag systems will similarly shut off the passenger side air bag system when detecting a small-stature passenger or child in the right front passenger seat who is positioned too close to the side air bag.
• In used vehicles, a possible reason for the air bag not to deploy is that the air bag may not have been replaced after a previous crash. NHTSA recommends that air bags always be replaced after a deployment. Any air bag that fails to deploy in an injury-producing crash should be reported to NHTSA's Office of Defects Investigation for investigation of possible system defects and potential recall.

 

[borski]

Have there been times when they needed to deploy and didn't?

If there had been, Lucid would be in a world of trouble right now. It’s safe to assume that’s not the case.