Took 2K mile road trip, now looking to sell Gravity

[Smorgasbord]

So is Dream Drive 2 Premium now able to do limited hands free driving?

No, at least Lucid doesn't advertise it as such. You may be able to take your hands off the wheel for short amounts of time before the system bugs you or disengages.

Last weekend we took a trip from Silicon Valley to Calabasas and back in our Gravity with DD Pro, updated to 3.6. We mostly took 101.

On the sections of 101 that are not limited access, the system would disengage at every intersection. It gave very little notice most of the time, other times it gave advance notice but then didn't disengage. Weird. The disengagement wasn't a problem for me as I kept at least one hand on the wheel at all times just to be safe and the disengagement seemed to keep speed control set. For truly hands free driving I would think they'd want to have not just more time on the notice, but also to really wake you up that you need to take over (or maybe it sensed I was holding the wheel?).
It also disengaged without notice when there were construction cones, even if they were not in lanes. Again, the transitions were smooth, but if I hadn't had a hand on the wheel that might not have been so good.

As everyone says, FSD is far superior that what Lucid has now, and the pre-mapping is a failure mechanism as it won't have all construction zones on the map so it has to figure out what's going on anyway, so let it always figure out what's going on and react, as Tesla does.

That said, we're far more comfortable taking long trips in the Gravity versus our previous Model Xs, even without FSD. The quietness of the cabin is probably the main thing here, but massaging seats are helpful, too. The lumbar support is better, the interior materials are far better. Due to the large A-pillars, visibility isn't as good around curves, though. And for local driving, especially mountain roads, the Gravity wipes the floor with the X.

 

[Lycra]

I would love for someone here to buy it! But I have not mentioned that yet because I'm giving myself time to digest my decision, and everyone input is very appreciated and helping me tremendously.
I will list the specs below and feel free to DM me or whatever the correct decorum is for that sort of thing

Grand Touring
Front and Rear Motor, All-Wheel Drive
Supernova Bronze Metallic
SteaIth Appearanee
21" Front/ 22" Rear
Orion Stealth Ojai Leather
7-Passenger Seating Configuration
Luxury Seating Package with 18-Way Power Front Seats
DreamDrive ™ 2 Pro
Surreal Sound™ Pro
Comfort & Convenience Package Upgrade
Dynamic Handling Package Upgrade
Technology Package Upgrade
Without Towing Package

coming up on 12K miles
Full PPF with ceramic on it plus all glass has ceramic tint

So it seems it has all Options and is fully loaded correct? What did you pay for it?

 

[doubletwist]

Just wanted to chime in ... We're in the middle of a road trip from Dallas area through multiple spots in Colorado with our GGT. Has the option of taking our X (free supercharging and fsd were pulling me that way), but ultimately decided to take the lucid to have more flexibility on the range/stops. Super glad we did! Besides the range, with 3 kids and a dog, the room and comfort is just much better. The fit and finish also 1000x better than the X (had multiple service appointments to get rid of rattles, but they would inevitably return). Going on about 15k miles on the gravity now and is still as quiet as ever.

As far as the maps, I was one that was waiting on Android auto to be available and was hoping I could run both at the same time. Was disappointed when I couldn't and just ended up using the native maps more to take advantage of the 2 screens. Funny things happened, as I continued to use it, I kinda started liking it more than Google maps. 3.6 was also a game changer with the Google search integration. I do still double check to see if better options/routes available with Google maps, but have been more satisfied with Here recently. The one exception may be in city driving during peak time traffic, where Google just seems to have better traffic data.

Regarding fsd vs dream drive, it's not really a comparison. Dream drive reminds me auto pilot from 2019 or so. It's very helpful for highway driving and just good enough to be dangerous by making you think it's better than it is. Ultimately, it's great for long road trips with my hands on the wheel, but fsd is really unbeatable right now. Having said that, given how well lucid does everything else, I'm willing to wait on their self driving updates as I did with Tesla.

Overall, I'm very glad I brought the lucid on this trip instead of the Tesla. The headlights are amazing, especially with 3.6 and the range and flexibility it gives us with charging stops has been wonderful. I know with the model x I would have been stopping quite a bit more, especially with the wind/altitude (also cause I would have probably stuck to only Tesla chargers for the free charging ).

So while I understand the road trips are very different on the east coast, through Texas, New Mexico and Colorado, it has been fantastic!

What route did you end up taking? I went up 287 to Amarillo on my recent trip, and the only issue for me (in an AT) was the stretch between Wichita Falls and Amarillo, the only charging options were 2 Tesla stations (only 50kw in the Air) and a janky station in Childress that costs $1/kWh. So I had to suck it up and sit at a Tesla station for over an hour to get me to Amarillo.

 

[DeaneG]

...As everyone says, FSD is far superior that what Lucid has now, and the pre-mapping is a failure mechanism as it won't have all construction zones on the map so it has to figure out what's going on anyway, so let it always figure out what's going on and react, as Tesla does....

I believe that Lucid's lanekeeping doesn't rely on pre-mapping, FWIW

 

[socktucker]

I believe that Lucid's lanekeeping doesn't rely on pre-mapping, FWIW

I’ve got a loaner DE right now and at random feeeway sections it was say Hands Free not available in this area for maybe a few hundred yards. I that a different thing than just lane keep?

 

[DeaneG]

I’ve got a loaner DE right now and at random feeeway sections it was say Hands Free not available in this area for maybe a few hundred yards. I that a different thing than just lane keep?

I don't know how the software decides whether handsfree is available vs only lane keeping.

 

[Alset2]

I think you need to define what "fun to drive" means for you... if youre talking actual driving dynamics, ride quality, and handling then the lucid blows Tesla out of the water and 90% of reviews will confirm that fact. If youre talking Software and Navigation mechanics then youre probably right. But dont confuse the 2

Oh yes, I get what you're saying. I am talking driving dynamics here though. There is no doubt that the Gravity is a nicer riding vehicle...it is probably the best I have ever driven, but she is a big car, granted it does not drive nearly as big as it actually is, which is a credit to the engineering, but it still feels bigger that my Plaid.
The Plaid is also a big car, but it also does not drive like a big car. Best description I ever heard was its like bringing a big girl to the dance, but if you lead her well, she can dance....Im sure I could lead the Gravity just fine, but it would be a little more work, to me, is all I'm saying.
I also know fun is a relative term, even for me on a day to day basis, but in this context, I can throw the plaid around almost like a big go cart, with the Gravity, I'm defiantly driving a "car".

I mean no disrespect in that sentiment; it's just my feelings about it.

I have lots of track time in many different cars, so I certainly understand what you are saying.

 

[Alset2]

Please post it in the marketplace, with photos and a price (it can be best offer, but I’d suggest a price if you don’t want lowball offers)

Understood and thank you

 

[Alset2]

So it seems it has all Options and is fully loaded correct? What did you pay for it?

Everything but tow hitch

$123K before TTT

 

[kkumar99]

What route did you end up taking? I went up 287 to Amarillo on my recent trip, and the only issue for me (in an AT) was the stretch between Wichita Falls and Amarillo, the only charging options were 2 Tesla stations (only 50kw in the Air) and a janky station in Childress that costs $1/kWh. So I had to suck it up and sit at a Tesla station for over an hour to get me to Amarillo.

Yeah, I left dfw with a full charge and went up 287. Stopped at the Tesla supercharger in Quanah at a sonic drive in (there was another option in Vernon at a gas station, but family wanted food). With the gravity, I was hitting 225kw for a good portion of time and by the time our food order was ready, the car was already close to 90%. Kids enjoyed eating the food on the trays in the back. Could have made it straight to hotel from there, but they needed a restroom break (can thank the sonic limeades for that), which ended up being at the bucees in Amarillo. Again, by the time they were in and out of there charge was close to 90%. Honestly the charging speeds are as fast if not faster than my model x at the newer superchargers, so I almost default to the Tesla superchargers as they are generally significantly cheaper than the others with the membership plan.

 

[Lycra]

Everything but tow hitch

$123K before TTT

Ok then almost same I guess as in Germany comparing net prices.
I configured a GGT and came to 150.000 €. = 126.000 € net price.
Not sure how much TTT you have where you live.
But then 81k $ is not much is it?! What is your target price?

 

[Alset2]

Ok then almost same I guess as in Germany comparing net prices.
I configured a GGT and came to 150.000 €. = 126.000 € net price.
Not sure how much TTT you have where you live.
But then 81k $ is not much is it?! What is your target price?

So far I have been tellng all the "Carvana" type please I want $100K. Im aware there is no way they will give me that, but Im trying to set a bar at least
Honesly I would take $95K if they offered. Would even go down lower but then I in the "might keep it" camp
Private sales, depending on who it is to, I'm very flexible. I'm one of those people who would really rather it go to someone who wants it .
My wife and I both are car people, so we get attached to cars.... they are not just cars if you know what I mean
So its very fluid right now

 

[Lycra]

Yeah I understand you Too bad shipping to Germany would be to expensive
the 100k is always final price, so including tax etc correct?

 

[exxxviii]

So far I have been tellng all the "Carvana" type please I want $100K. Im aware there is no way they will give me that, but Im trying to set a bar at least
Honesly I would take $95K if they offered. Would even go down lower but then I in the "might keep it" camp

You have a challenging conundrum... This made me curious to search available used Gravitys on Autotrader... There is exactly 1 within 200 miles of my home. That means there is very little sale data available for a used car manager to set a price. Therefore, they will be very conservative on their end. Nationally, there are only 8 advertised.

That car nearest me is listed for $99K.

 

[scal_air]

So far I have been tellng all the "Carvana" type please I want $100K. Im aware there is no way they will give me that, but Im trying to set a bar at least
Honesly I would take $95K if they offered. Would even go down lower but then I in the "might keep it" camp
Private sales, depending on who it is to, I'm very flexible. I'm one of those people who would really rather it go to someone who wants it .
My wife and I both are car people, so we get attached to cars.... they are not just cars if you know what I mean
So its very fluid right now

Yeah, I feel the same way. I really take care of my cars so it's difficult for me to part with them. I'd rather sell to someone, even at a discount, if I know they appreciate the car rather than trade it in to a dealer.

 

[mike1121]

Worse part about buying cars is having to sell them one day.

This is why I tell the wife the next house needs to have a 4 car garage minimum so I can start collecting them.

 

[Alset2]

Yeah I understand you Too bad shipping to Germany would be to expensive
the 100k is always final price, so including tax etc correct?

I would take less than $100K, that's just what I told them to see how close they would come.
As far as tax and tag and all of that, I would not be collecting any, but the jurisdiction where it gets registered to the new owner will want some money lol

 

[Alset2]

You have a challenging conundrum... This made me curious to search available used Gravitys on Autotrader... There is exactly 1 within 200 miles of my home. That means there is very little sale data available for a used car manager to set a price. Therefore, they will be very conservative on their end. Nationally, there are only 8 advertised.

That car nearest me is listed for $99K.

Yes, its proving to be an interesting endeavor...I mean its kind of cool to be honest, but I only have that freedome becaue I dont HAVE to get sell it.

 

[Alset2]

Yeah, I feel the same way. I really take care of my cars so it's difficult for me to part with them. I'd rather sell to someone, even at a discount, if I know they appreciate the car rather than trade it in to a dealer.

EXACTLY!!

 

[socktucker]

Yeah, I feel the same way. I really take care of my cars so it's difficult for me to part with them. I'd rather sell to someone, even at a discount, if I know they appreciate the car rather than trade it in to a dealer.

100%. I even do a quick detail on my rental cars, get the stuff out of the cracks, clean the glass, etc. I wouldn’t even feel right taking a loaner Lucid though an auto wash, and none of my cars (except my old truck and Tesla…) have been in an automatic brush wash. Even though I’m not happy with Lucid, I always return the loaner in better condition than I got it (if possible) and ready to be loaned out right away.