Test drive before 2H25.....maybe?

[HC_79]

@HC_79 thanks, is it also a special color like the Air Dream?

No, the Aurora Green which is the Gravity launch color.

 

[hmp10]

@HC_79 thanks, is it also a special color like the Air Dream?

The Gravity has four colors unique to it: Aurora Green, Interstellar Bronze, Lunar Titanium, and Abyss Black (almost the same as the Infinite Black on the Air).

The Gravity Dream can be had in two of those colors -- Aurora Green and Abyss Black -- or in the same Stellar White that is on the Air.

Unlike the Air Dream which came in only one interior palette -- Santa Monica -- the Gravity Dream can be had in two interior colors: Yosemite and Tahoe.

The Gravity Dream also only offers the two larger wheel options instead of the Gravity GT's three wheel options. (It is not clear whether the smallest wheels can be bought separately or whether they might not be suitable on the Dream due to brake sizes or some other reason.)

 

[hmp10]

Can they explain what else is included with a Dream Edition?

Besides the horsepower and badging differences, the Lucid website also mentions added accessories for the Dream. Word is that means the removable frunk seat is included, but I've heard no mention of whether the Dream (or the GT) will include the NACS charging cable, as that is now an extra-cost accessory for many EVs.

 

[hydbob]

Besides the horsepower and badging differences, the Lucid website also mentions added accessories for the Dream. Word is that means the removable frunk seat is included, but I've heard no mention of whether the Dream (or the GT) will include the NACS charging cable, as that is now an extra-cost accessory for many EVs.

There is some Dream specific stuff that is included that will only be available on the Dream Edition.

 

[hmp10]

Could be, but his initial video review on the pre-production Gravity was 2 months ago. Not my definition of recent, but perhaps his. And yet in his initial Gravity review he said he knew nothing about the software, but since then he has referenced it on other videos as being good. Leads me to believe it's referencing a production model. And those 100 Gravities (50 ea in Jan. & Feb) delivered have to be somewhere. Of course that's if those delivery reports are correct.

Who knows.
Grasping for something like everyone else.

There has been virtually nothing new being discussed on automotive websites or YouTube about the Gravity recently except for a slew of click bait channels that can't even manage to post a picture of an actual Gravity instead of some AI-generated nonsense.

Except for a couple of threads on Reddit, I haven't seen a single mention in any automotive reporting on the Gravity Dream, either. In fact, the Lucid website still shows the Gravity as available with "up to 828 hp" -- so Lucid is not even acknowledging the Dream except to people who received an invitation to order the Dream and log into their accounts. For some reason, they are keeping its existence as much under wraps as they can.

 

[hmp10]

There is some Dream specific stuff that is included that will only be available on the Dream Edition.

Any ideas what?

 

[hydbob]

Any ideas what?

 

[msaunders9430]

There has been virtually nothing new being discussed on automotive websites or YouTube about the Gravity recently except for a slew of click bait channels that can't even manage to post a picture of an actual Gravity instead of some AI-generated nonsense.

Except for a couple of threads on Reddit, I haven't seen a single mention in any automotive reporting on the Gravity Dream, either. In fact, the Lucid website still shows the Gravity as available with "up to 828 hp" -- so Lucid is not even acknowledging the Dream except to people who received an invitation to order the Dream and log into their accounts. For some reason, they are keeping its existence as much under wraps as they can.

Agree.
I've seen nothing new discussed on any media outlet about Gravity other than those you mentioned.

What I'm wondering is that OoS and possibly other reviewers may have unreleased reviews of the Gravity.
Kyle's references to the Gravity software in other ev review videos does not line up with his initial review of the Gravity during which he rarely mentioned the software.

There was a post (see image below) about a month ago on Reddit about a Savagegeese video about Gravity being taken down at the request of Lucid.
We don't know for certain that an embargo doesn't exist. At least I don't.
The mention of an embargo along with references to Gravity deliveries in January and February, although unconfirmed, makes me wonder.

IMHO, just because it's not currently being discussed anywhere online, doesn't mean some reviewers haven't had experiences driving a production level Gravity.
We may never know the full story (embargo or no embargo).

 

[msaunders9430]

Agree.
I've seen nothing new discussed on any media outlet about Gravity other than those you mentioned.

What I'm wondering is that OoS and possibly other reviewers may have unreleased reviews of the Gravity.
Kyle's references to the Gravity software in other ev review videos does not line up with his initial review of the Gravity during which he rarely mentioned the software.

There was a post (see image below) about a month ago on Reddit about a Savagegeese video about Gravity being taken down at the request of Lucid.
We don't know for certain that an embargo doesn't exist. At least I don't.
The mention of an embargo along with references to Gravity deliveries in January and February, although unconfirmed, makes me wonder.

IMHO, just because it's not currently being discussed anywhere online, doesn't mean some reviewers haven't had experiences driving a production level Gravity.
We may never know the full story (embargo or no embargo).


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Also either those reports of 100 Gravities delivered January - February are false (definitely possible) or somebody (possibly reviewers) has been driving and testing them without publishing a review.

 

[hmp10]

Also either those reports of 100 Gravities delivered January - February are false (definitely possible) or somebody (possibly reviewers) has been driving and testing them without publishing a review.

No way to know, since Lucid isn't revealing anything. When Rawlinson said that the next tranche of Gravities to come off the production line after those first nine deliveries were destined for the press and showrooms, I thought certainly by now -- more than two months later -- at least a few final production versions would have shown up in reviews and/or in Design Studios.

Of course, I was wrong, and we're instead staring into the abyss of a virtual communications blackout from Lucid about the state of things with Gravity production.

I'll be an optimist here and hope this means that, when the Gravity does finally arrive to customers, it will be absolutely nailed down hardware- and software-wise and that it won't matter whether the Dream is at the head of the production queue or not this time around.

 

[037]

I hear Gravity can be seen in the app…small progress?

 

[tonybot]

Could be, but his initial video review on the pre-production Gravity was 2 months ago. Not my definition of recent, but perhaps his. And yet in his initial Gravity review he said he knew nothing about the software, but since then he has referenced it on other videos as being good. Leads me to believe it's referencing a production model. And those 100 Gravities (50 ea in Jan. & Feb) delivered have to be somewhere. Of course that's if those delivery reports are correct.

Who knows.
Grasping for something like everyone else.

Don’t know exactly where he mentioned this but I recall Kyle talking about playing with Gravity software at the Vegas CES event. I believe this was a display vehicle and not a test vehicle. He talked about software being responsive and some of the kinks during his HQ test drive being resolved. I am not sure if that was a production Gravity.

 

[tonybot]

What I am honestly wondering is why there is this level of secrecy. After all, we are not talking about some kind of national secret being revealed. Folks who know Lucid well, is it due to some bad experience based on the air release? Is it striving for perfection and wanting to avoid any negative feedback? I am genuinely curious. I did notice the second episode of the Savage Geese review being taken down, and I have no clue why.

 

[HC_79]

What I am honestly wondering is why there is this level of secrecy. After all, we are not talking about some kind of national secret being revealed. Folks who know Lucid well, is it due to some bad experience based on the air release? Is it striving for perfection and wanting to avoid any negative feedback? I am genuinely curious. I did notice the second episode of the Savage Geese review being taken down, and I have no clue why.

Well according to Lucid, everything is going to schedule for the Gravity release.

 

[CraZ8]

Has anyone done a drone flight over the factory parking lot to see if any Gravitys are produced and are awaiting delivery? I remember that was done for the Air

 

[Blue Lectroid]

The Gravity will be released when Lucid is ready to release it. No big deal IMHO. They already have more orders than they planned for, so all of the concern expressed here about “Lucid squandering this opportunity” seems like much ado about nothing.

When the car hits the road en masse, if it’s as good as early reviews seem to suggest, both the buying public and press will respond in kind. Volvo missed its delivery date by over a year in the EX90 and it was still both a hardware and software mess at launch (and did nothing remotely special or as revolutionary as Gravity). The “Engineered Like No Other Car in the World” Mercedes flagship EV is garbage…

These vehicles are hugely complex and I think it’s positive that Lucid is taking its time. Clearly I am in the minority in terms of posters here!!

 

[hmp10]

The Gravity will be released when Lucid is ready to release it.

This is the way it should be. I got very antsy as it became clear that Gravity deliveries were not going to ramp appreciably, even though slowly, in the first few months after orders opened. But what I did not want to express at the time was the real reason for my impatience. I had believed since the L.A. Auto Show that there was a Dream Edition in the cards, and that was reinforced by a conversation I had late last year with someone from Lucid Product Planning. But as the weeks dragged on with no Dream Edition being announced, I got increasingly worried. If significant deliveries started, it could mean only one of two things: Lucid was selling Gravities to some people who might want the Dream but weren't aware it would soon be available (a major marketing blunder), or the Dream Edition was dead. So I was hoping that limited deliveries meant there was another shoe to drop. My real impatience was to see a Dream Edition announced, not a Grand Touring delivered.

Now that the Dream Edition has been announced, that itch is scratched and my other personal agenda has moved to the fore: I don't want Lucid to deliver any significant number of Gravities with anything like the problems (mostly software) they had with the early Airs. While our early Air is now virtually problem-free and stands as the best car I've ever owned, I don't want to relive the time I spent in the incubator with the Air while it matured enough to do without an umbilical cord attached to a Service Center. (I only kept the car during those difficult early months because of Lucid's superb service response, and I am now immensely glad I did.)

@Amster made an astute catch on another thread that there is now a rear-side-door latching mechanism on a production Gravity that was not on any of the late prototypes. That is a significant structural modification that may indicate that some final engineering bridges have only been crossed recently. It is in everyone's best interest to make sure all such final modifications are implemented in the factory, not in the field -- no matter what the cost in terms of delivery delays.

 

[hydbob]

The Gravity will be released when Lucid is ready to release it. No big deal IMHO. They already have more orders than they planned for, so all of the concern expressed here about “Lucid squandering this opportunity” seems like much ado about nothing.

When the car hits the road en masse, if it’s as good as early reviews seem to suggest, both the buying public and press will respond in kind. Volvo missed its delivery date by over a year in the EX90 and it was still both a hardware and software mess at launch (and did nothing remotely special or as revolutionary as Gravity). The “Engineered Like No Other Car in the World” Mercedes flagship EV is garbage…

These vehicles are hugely complex and I think it’s positive that Lucid is taking its time. Clearly I am in the minority in terms of posters here!!

If you look back at the Air release and subsequent reservation numbers, I'd say it wasn't much ado about nothing. Air had over 35,000 reservations which they could not convert the majority of those to actual deliveries because of delays.

While, I agree that the car needs to mostly functioning in order to deliver, there is not an infinite period of time to delay. I'm sure no one wants a repeat of what happened with the Pure release....

 

[Adnillien]

Has anyone done a drone flight over the factory parking lot to see if any Gravitys are produced and are awaiting delivery? I remember that was done for the Air

There is a good chance that this may happen next week.

 

[californiaboy935]

Going with the commonly held belief on this forum that the higher priced models usually are purchased by a buyer who is more tolerant of bugs, sounds like your tolerance is rewarded with oomph.

Depending on the time between Dream and GT deliveries, you may not be squashing that many more bugs.

I have not heard this commonly held belief! I’m entirely get getting behind it though. More horsepower means I care about any bug less for sure!!!