Tesla FSD

[momo3605]

FSD is great! …unless it’s raining, or foggy, or too sunny, or snowing, or you have a leaf on your camera, or there’s a bug stuck on the lens…

Doesn't Lucid HA (with redundancy) give up in rain as well...?

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Thread 'Lidar Blocked whenever it rains - what does the Lidar do?'

Mar 1, 2023

I am not up on auto technology - but what exactly does the Lidar do? I ask becuase I am wondering what features it impacts in the Lucid Air GT. Every time it rains I get a message on my dash while driving that says "Lidar Blocked - Try Cleaning Sensor". So what will not work on the car if it's blocked, becuase I am not going to stop my car every few miles and wipe the sensors off. And which sensors are the Lidar sensor? Is it just in front of the car or ? I am concerned that it will make the distance to the next car sensors not work - and frankly when it is raining I REALLY want my...

• cyberwife
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[RM-S8]

Overall, i despise using any "helpful" devices while driving, as i like to be in full control in any situation. My wife agrees, she tried, she agrees and she doesn't buy batteries any more

 

[borski]

Doesn't Lucid HA (with redundancy) give up in rain as well...?

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Thread 'Lidar Blocked whenever it rains - what does the Lidar do?'

Mar 1, 2023

I am not up on auto technology - but what exactly does the Lidar do? I ask becuase I am wondering what features it impacts in the Lucid Air GT. Every time it rains I get a message on my dash while driving that says "Lidar Blocked - Try Cleaning Sensor". So what will not work on the car if it's blocked, becuase I am not going to stop my car every few miles and wipe the sensors off. And which sensors are the Lidar sensor? Is it just in front of the car or ? I am concerned that it will make the distance to the next car sensors not work - and frankly when it is raining I REALLY want my...

• cyberwife
• lucid
• Replies: 178
• Forum: User Interface

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Nope. My HA works just fine in the rain.

 

[hmp10]

Tesla is apparently having resort to the same expedient other companies are using to make Level 3 and Level 4 ADAS work:

As Tesla Struggles to Make Self-Driving Work, It's Hiring a Team to Remote-Control Its Robotaxis

Hands-On Approach For better or worse, Tesla, under the direction of Elon Musk, is serious about its robotaxi ambitions. And so it's preparing to use the same, sneaky trick that everyone else does to make its cars seem fully autonomous: hiring people to pilot them. As Electrek reports, the EV...

www.yahoo.com

Once again, Rawlinson seemed to have it right when he said several years ago that true self driving was at least a decade and untold billions of dollars away from reality and even then might come up short.

 

[joec]

My favorite part of that article: "Cruise reportedly staffed about 1.5 workers per vehicle."

So decades of software work, billions of dollars, and you still need more people to operate a "driverless" car than a regular one.

 

[BocaBlue]

Before my GT I had two Tesla model s’. Both with fsd. The improvements over the two models were amazing but my last (2022) still didn’t make me comfortable on long distance driving. Local neighborhood worked astoundingly well. But my tension level outside the neighborhood didn’t justify the use of FSD. Maybe something you have to grow up used to.

 

[Leftlane]

FSD today is quite good but still nowhere ready to be unsupervised - for long road trips on highways it’s a game changer. I use it as much as possible, more to train myself to trust it than anything else, but I still have to be ready to take over.

 

[momo3605]

Before my GT I had two Tesla model s’. Both with fsd. The improvements over the two models were amazing but my last (2022) still didn’t make me comfortable on long distance driving. Local neighborhood worked astoundingly well. But my tension level outside the neighborhood didn’t justify the use of FSD. Maybe something you have to grow up used to.

Yea that was my experience too. Day to day you kind of get used to how it will react to your regularly driven on streets. When you’re off somewhere new, it was a little more stressful since you don’t know how it will react. But this was 2 years ago…I’ve heard it’s a lot better now

 

[skywaterbanjo]

I just took my first 'drive' in a brand new Model Y and tried FSD for a round trip to the park (neighborhoods, stop signs, pedestrians, squirrels running across the road, etc.). I was blown away by how accurate it was. Granted, only a 25 minute roundtrip but very impressive. Between that and things like sentry mode, dash cam, etc. we have a long way to go. But, I was really unimpressed by how many garbage features are included with the system (light show, for example). But, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't trade my AGT for a Tesla. Such a better vehicle.

 

[hmp10]

Between that and things like sentry mode, dash cam, etc. we have a long way to go.

On the other hand, our Lucid Air will play a USB music stick, which is very useful as we live in a semi-rural area with a lot of cell dropouts. Our 2021 Tesla Model S would not.

Our Lucid Air has CarPlay. Our Tesla did not.

Our Lucid Air satellite map displays were better, in that we could both zoom out on a compass orientation and zoom in on a direction-of-travel orientation simultaneously, something that was unexpectedly useful when navigating unfamiliar terrain.

Our Lucid Air has a much better birds-eye-view simulation, a feature our Tesla didn't have until an OTA update added it a couple of years after purchase.

Adjusting the A/C and vents, using turn signals, selecting gears, passenger adjustment of audio volume are all much easier in the Air. (I don't know whether the Tesla had improved the automatic gear selection feature by the time we sold the car, as we quit using it in early days because it kept trying to drive us into the garage back wall.)

As bad as Lucid key fob problems have been, the Tesla went through repeated bouts of failing to recognize either its fob or key card. When we could finally get the door opened during this episodes, we had to rub the key card over the phone charger pad to get the car to power up.

While the Lucid has required more software reboots than the Tesla, rebooting was not exactly a rare experience in the Tesla.

Even if Tesla's software worked perfectly -- and it doesn't -- I think they have gone way too far in putting almost every function onto a screen, whereas Lucid's retention of manual switches for many key operating functions is much the better approach, even when they provide redundancy with screen controls.

 

[skywaterbanjo]

On the other hand, our Lucid Air will play a USB music stick, which is very useful as we live in a semi-rural area with a lot of cell dropouts. Our 2021 Tesla Model S would not.

Our Lucid Air has CarPlay. Our Tesla did not.

Our Lucid Air satellite map displays were better, in that we could both zoom out on a compass orientation and zoom in on a direction-of-travel orientation simultaneously, something that was unexpectedly useful when navigating unfamiliar terrain.

Our Lucid Air has a much better birds-eye-view simulation, a feature our Tesla didn't have until an OTA update added it a couple of years after purchase.

Adjusting the A/C and vents, using turn signals, selecting gears, passenger adjustment of audio volume are all much easier in the Air. (I don't know whether the Tesla had improved the automatic gear selection feature by the time we sold the car, as we quit using it in early days because it kept trying to drive us into the garage back wall.)

As bad as Lucid key fob problems have been, the Tesla went through repeated bouts of failing to recognize either its fob or key card. When we could finally get the door opened during this episodes, we had to rub the key card over the phone charger pad to get the car to power up.

While the Lucid has required more software reboots than the Tesla, rebooting was not exactly a rare experience in the Tesla.

Even if Tesla's software worked perfectly -- and it doesn't -- I think they have gone way too far in putting almost every function onto a screen, whereas Lucid's retention of manual switches for many key operating functions is much the better approach, even when they provide redundancy with screen controls.

Don't disagree with anything you said. I stated how much I like the Lucid. I was just really impressed with FSD and the use of the cameras for dash cam and sentry. Your Tesla was 4 years old. And, as I said, Tesla put way too much extraneous stuff into the software - people with to much time on their hands.

I love the fact the Lucid has hard buttons. Just one of the many reasons I like the GTA better.