Recall for Floormats…Unintended Acceleration

[Buffalo Bob]

What is wrong with this picture? It's an unintended acceleration safety issue, and the NHTSA bulletin says 'Owner notification letters are expected to be mailed May 23, 2025.' What? Almost two months from now? Isn't that just asking for a lawsuit?

I imagine that resolving this issue will also require Lucid to install anchors in those vehicles that were manufactured before they were added.

 

[Miami_Lucid_Man]

While we’re on the subject, any recommendations for front and rear rubber mats (I have 2 kids under 4)?

I already have a trunk liner.

 

[jbed]

@Nick.Twork this is concerning, proactive communication would be helpful here.

Two immediate questions:
1. When will we hear from Lucid directly on this? A letter in two months is a bit long.
2. Are replacements going to be available (almost 25pct of us like having OEM rubber mats apparently)?

Thanks!

 

[jbawden]

Copied from the release: "Lucid will reimburse owners for the original cost of the floor mats." Not sure if they will make a revised version that we have to buy, or what exactly the remedy will be.
I tried industrial velcro, stuck great on the floor side, but not the mat side. I've been thinking about adding mechanical anchors, but I guess I'll see what comes of this first. I'm about ready to go back to my seasonal carpet soon anyway.

 

[borski]

What is wrong with this picture? It's an unintended acceleration safety issue, and the NHTSA bulletin says 'Owner notification letters are expected to be mailed May 23, 2025.' What? Almost two months from now? Isn't that just asking for a lawsuit?

I imagine that resolving this issue will also require Lucid to install anchors in those vehicles that were manufactured before they were added.

That is the legally-required timeline.

 

[Buffalo Bob]

That is the legally-required timeline.

That might make sense if the sentence said BY May 23, 2025. If it's a safety issue, why would they want the manufacturer to wait almost two months to get the word out?

 

[Miami_Lucid_Man]

It’s normal to have some delay. My wife’s VW Atlas was recalled to fix a passenger seat airbag sensor (pretty important) but they said the weren’t going to have the parts in for several months. I think one of my Tesla’s had a similar situation over the last several years too.

 

[Miami_Lucid_Man]

Anyone tried these out?

Amazon.com

 

[Buffalo Bob]

That is the legally-required timeline.

It’s normal to have some delay. My wife’s VW Atlas was recalled to fix a passenger seat airbag sensor (pretty important) but they said the weren’t going to have the parts in for several months. I think one of my Tesla’s had a similar situation over the last several years too.

But, in this case, the 'fix' is simply to tell the customer to remove the driver's floor mat, and await a refund. Tell them that today, and the risk goes away today, assuming they heed the notice. I expect that Lucid will indeed notify us customers via email soon, and I understand that it will take longer for them to mail some specific NHTSA recall form. What I can't believe is that the NHTSA would impose a legally-required notification delay. I hope they meant notification BY 5/23/25, and just left out the word BY.

 

[Pragmatic]

Up to Lucid. Time is allowed to develop a plan, acquire parts and allocate manpower. Each recall has its own complexity.

 

[MapleMan]

Had a 1987 Audi 5000 cs turbo that gave me a thrill going to max throttle as I approached a red light. Brakes barely stopped me (had to turn ignition off) in the middle of the intersection. Loved the car.... will never buy an audi again. Wasn't the floor mat. Audi had a problem with unintended acceleration issues but kept it all on the down-low.

So yes I am glad to see the floor mat problem raised awareness here.

I had this exact car. Audi tried to blame it on drivers not knowing which pedal was accelerator and which was the brake. As you might recall, they ended up installing the ever popular "shift-lock-brake" as retrofits to require driver to press on brake before putting into drive. Basically claiming the consumers were idiots. Couldn't give the 5000's away after that. I also never bought another Audi since that experience.

 

[borski]

I had this exact car. Audi tried to blame it on drivers not knowing which pedal was accelerator and which was the brake. As you might recall, they ended up installing the ever popular "shift-lock-brake" as retrofits to require driver to press on brake before putting into drive. Basically claiming the consumers were idiots. Couldn't give the 5000's away after that. I also never bought another Audi since that experience.

Audi was right, and all of the data *ever since*, including in the Toyota case, showed they were right. I know what sucks to hear, but it’s what happened.

 

[borski]

But, in this case, the 'fix' is simply to tell the customer to remove the driver's floor mat, and await a refund. Tell them that today, and the risk goes away today, assuming they heed the notice. I expect that Lucid will indeed notify us customers via email soon, and I understand that it will take longer for them to mail some specific NHTSA recall form. What I can't believe is that the NHTSA would impose a legally-required notification delay. I hope they meant notification BY 5/23/25, and just left out the word BY.

Yes, of course they don’t have to wait the full two months.

Manufacturers must notify NHTSA within 5 business days of deciding to recall a vehicle and then notify registered owners (via first-class mail) within 60 days of that notification to NHTSA. If the remedy for the defect isn't available at the time of the initial notification, the manufacturer must issue a second notification within a reasonable time once the remedy is available.

 

[TroyC]

https://insideevs.com/news/754828/lucid-air-floor-mat-recall/

I just saw there is a recall on Lucid Air all weather floor mats.

 

[PaulC]

While we’re on the subject, any recommendations for front and rear rubber mats (I have 2 kids under 4)?

I already have a trunk liner.

2023 AT and I was concerned several months ago about the Lucid mats bunching under the brake/accelerator, so I purchased Liner X which sits very securely despite 2023AT not having anchors.

 

[Miami_Lucid_Man]

I had this exact car. Audi tried to blame it on drivers not knowing which pedal was accelerator and which was the brake. As you might recall, they ended up installing the ever popular "shift-lock-brake" as retrofits to require driver to press on brake before putting into drive. Basically claiming the consumers were idiots. Couldn't give the 5000's away after that. I also never bought another Audi since that experience.

My mom had that same issue in hers about that time.

 

[Overcharged]

I had this issue with my 2006 Lexus IS 350.
Gas pedal got stuck with my family in the car when I was accelerating onto the highway.
I was able to push hard on the brake, get the car into neutral and pull over to the shoulder, then pull the mat back, pretty scary.

 

[Pragmatic]

Something with the Toyota mats. I had it happen in a company owned Prius. Mats permanently took the shape of the floor but were able to easily slide around. When they slid back the part that was bent up by the firewall easily trapped the accelerator.

When I accelerated to merge onto the NJ Turmpike the pedal remained floored. Being a Prius I had time to get the pedal released before the speed got too far above the intended 65.