Not working Tesla wall charger but works with Tesla EVSE

[iThinkEV]

Been trying to test out all charging options with Tesla.

Went to a V3 supercharger, plug connector in, charges for like 2 seconds, then stopped. Screen says require an extra step, I’m not sure what that extra step is. I thought everything is plug and charge. Will ping my SA tomorrow and see.

Testing @ home. Tesla gen 2 wall charger. 100amp circuit. Wall charger charges my 3 other Teslas fine. Charges the Porsche Taycan fine with J1777 adaptor. Plug into Gravity, no clicks, charge cable does not lock (just like when @ v3 Supercharger). Starts flashing red LEDs, screen says problem charging, try replacing. Tesla wall charger flashing red LED. Unplug (again, not locked). Few seconds later, Tesla wall charger goes to GREEN status. Decided to just plug in my Tesla EVSE, I have an 14-50 outlet coming out of the same circuit (for occasions just like this, pad in the back for thinking ahead). Plug into Gravity, I hear cable lock, then starts charging. Get about 9-10kW out of the EVSE, I usually get 11kW out of the wall charger, but that’s fine.

Anybody have any insight? I also have a new universal wall charger, I was thinking of installing it (got it free from Porsche), but don’t want to waste time if it’s the same. New wallchargers have app connection, which might offer more insight into any errors. Or just stick with the EVSE since it works.

-iThinkEV-

 

[Adnillien]

For the V3 Supercharger, did you set up a payment method for your Lucid charging plan?

I have no idea why your Tesla home charger will not work.

 

[zer0t0115]

I'm not sure if the Lucid Gravity supports some type of plug and charge on Tesla SCs. For my wife's EQS580 I need to go into the Tesla app, select the hamburger menu (I have other Teslas as well) and scroll down and select 'Charge Your Other EV'. Once that is done you select the dispenser you are connecting to.

I do this after added the Mercedes to my Tesla account again by selecting the hamburger menu and selecting charging, select vehicle details, hit the '+' and add the information for you vehicle.

Apologies if this is duplicative but I thought better to try and help.

 

[iThinkEV]

I did not try actually paying through the Tesla app. Because they were selling the plug and charge as the main NACS setup, I was just assuming it's working that way. But it's a good idea. Going to try that today.

Already have payment method in the system. My cc shows up in the wallet in the Lucid app.

-iThinkEV-

 

[Bdr100]

Yeah, I remember Kyle Conner on Out of Spec making the same error when picking up a new Rivian that had Plug and Charge with Tesla. Stopped at his first Tesla SC on his way home and ran into similar issue. Realized that he had not set up a credit card with his account.

 

[zer0t0115]

Hopefully it’s a non-issue when setup. Enjoy the new ride Gravity. Thinking of ordering one but I need a car in a bit less than 6 months and I think there’s quite a waiting list for these.

 

[Altitude22]

Hopefully it’s a non-issue when setup. Enjoy the new ride Gravity. Thinking of ordering one but I need a car in a bit less than 6 months and I think there’s quite a waiting list for these.

Depending on how you spec it, very possible you could get it in that time frame. Ordered mine in April, getting it delivered this week.

 

[TahoeMichael]

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Testing @ home. Tesla gen 2 wall charger. 100amp circuit. Wall charger charges my 3 other Teslas fine. Charges the Porsche Taycan fine with J1777 adaptor. Plug into Gravity, no clicks, charge cable does not lock (just like when @ v3 Supercharger). Starts flashing red LEDs, screen says problem charging, try replacing. Tesla wall charger flashing red LED. Unplug (again, not locked). Few seconds later, Tesla wall charger goes to GREEN status. Decided to just plug in my Tesla EVSE, I have an 14-50 outlet coming out of the same circuit (for occasions just like this, pad in the back for thinking ahead). Plug into Gravity, I hear cable lock, then starts charging. Get about 9-10kW out of the EVSE, I usually get 11kW out of the wall charger, but that’s fine.

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I'm not at all certain I'm right about this, but I think a Tesla gen 2 wall charger was designed before NACS and SAE J3400? As such, it might not be compatible with vehicles with NACS charging ports. My impression is that NACS adopted the plug geometry from Tesla, but there were some signalling changes. I've never taken a deep dive into this, but maybe someone who knows more that I do can chime in.

 

[bryway]

I'm not at all certain I'm right about this, but I think a Tesla gen 2 wall charger was designed before NACS and SAE J3400? As such, it might not be compatible with vehicles with NACS charging ports. My impression is that NACS adopted the plug geometry from Tesla, but there were some signalling changes. I've never taken a deep dive into this, but maybe someone who knows more that I do can chime in.

Interesting. I have a Gen2 Tesla wall charger as well (installed in early 2019). Thought I'd be able to repurpose it. If your theory proves true, I guess I'll be making the swap to a Lucid NACS setup.

 

[iThinkEV]

But I'm using an old EVSE from my 2016 or maybe 2017 models. So it's old, and before NACS ratification. And they work fine. It's just the wall charger not working. I'm trying to avoid calling Lucid, which no doubt will be saying it's the Tesla charger.

-iThinkEV-