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Gravitas said:
Nope. Refilling Windshield Wiper Reservoir did not resolve "Drive System Needs Service" warning. It continued to happen as soon as I pressed the Brake Pedal and shifted into Drive (except for the few random times warning did not show if I pressed Brake Pedal and shifted into Drive before buckling Seatbelt).

Happy to report that as of 1 day ago, "Drive System Needs Service" warning appears to have self-resolved. I've driven and parked 4 times now without pesky warning. Only change was charging Gravity from 18% to 90%.
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Since Sunday, I am getting the drive system warning error, too. I let it sleep overnight, soft reboot, and hard reboot and it is still there. I have not charged it since I started getting the error. I'll try charging it over 80% and see if that works for me, too. If it isn't one thing, it is another.....
 

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I know it would stretch on for pages, but I wish the release notes would include a lot more detail on bugs fixed.

It's been long enough that I'm not going to report any bugs against 3.5.1, because they'll all have to be re-validated against whatever's next. Like... the massaging seats randomly stop working after 30-60 minutes. One of the "nubs" in the upper left will move every minute or two, the display shows them on, but nothing happens. Is this a software bug? A thermal cutout? Ghosts? Who knows! But I know that I'll have to re-report it against the next release if it's not fixed...
 
nelslens said:
Yup.

Unfortunately nobody noticed until the wife entered the garage from the house, hit the door opener, and the inside struts & hinges of the sectional door caught on the tailgate, which had been pressed against the inner door surface. Bad crunching sound, panic & horror ensued.

Thankfully it's a relatively new door motor that shuts off when it hits resistance. Damage extremely minor -- just a 1/8" doink on the bottom edge of the tailgate.

I'd blamed myself for careless fob-pocketry, seems easy to auto-pip a button.

But now I'm off the hook. I blame a malevolent software gremlin.
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I guess mine also could’ve been fob-pocketry. But, then other times I can’t get the fob buttons to open anything or unlock the car. So, the buttons work when you don’t want, and don’t work when you want them to work. Frustrating.
 
Not too much longer till we get the next update.
“Our next update is currently targeted to begin rolling out late next week, with broader availability planned for the following week. We're taking the time to make sure everything is working as intended and appreciate everyone's patience as we finalize it.” - Nick Twork
 

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jered said:
I know it would stretch on for pages, but I wish the release notes would include a lot more detail on bugs fixed.

It's been long enough that I'm not going to report any bugs against 3.5.1, because they'll all have to be re-validated against whatever's next. Like... the massaging seats randomly stop working after 30-60 minutes. One of the "nubs" in the upper left will move every minute or two, the display shows them on, but nothing happens. Is this a software bug? A thermal cutout? Ghosts? Who knows! But I know that I'll have to re-report it against the next release if it's not fixed...
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I just learned something new about massage chairs, and I wonder if it could be relevant to Lucid's massage seats turning off after a while.

I have had a massage chair at home for a number of years, and it recently developed a mechanical glitch. Repair tech came by yesterday to diagnose the problem. While we were chatting, he told me that pretty much all massage chairs are designed to be used for 30 minutes at a time. They'll let you run them for longer than that, but you risk overheating the electric motors. He showed me photos of a bunch of different chair's labels with the warning about duty cycle. He said he advises all his clients to let the chairs cool for 15 minutes between each 30 minutes of use.

It makes me wonder whether Lucid's massage seats shutting off could be for thermal protection.
 
FirstLucidFL said:
Not too much longer till we get the next update.
“Our next update is currently targeted to begin rolling out late next week, with broader availability planned for the following week. We're taking the time to make sure everything is working as intended and appreciate everyone's patience as we finalize it.” - Nick Twork
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Everyone's patience? I think it's safe to say that a few here have not been patient. 🤣
 
TahoeMichael said:
I just learned something new about massage chairs, and I wonder if it could be relevant to Lucid's massage seats turning off after a while.

I have had a massage chair at home for a number of years, and it recently developed a mechanical glitch. Repair tech came by yesterday to diagnose the problem. While we were chatting, he told me that pretty much all massage chairs are designed to be used for 30 minutes at a time. They'll let you run them for longer than that, but you risk overheating the electric motors. He showed me photos of a bunch of different chair's labels with the warning about duty cycle. He said he advises all his clients to let the chairs cool for 15 minutes between each 30 minutes of use.

It makes me wonder whether Lucid's massage seats shutting off could be for thermal protection.
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That is correct for the Air. They’ve said this before, too. That’s why it shuts off after 20 min, and if you do it enough, it will shut off completely for a while.

But to @jered ‘s point, in the Air, it tells you that. :)
 
Have no idea what's the cause of what I described below:
Car entering parking garage. Put it into Park. Rolled window down and opened driver's door to get the ticket.
Closed the door. Put the car into Drive and negotiated a sharp 90 degrees left. Car suddenly changed to wife's profile and moved the seat up while car in motion.
This happened very quickly and literally pushed me into the steering wheel.
There were cars behind me and I just had to go forward and turned the wheel so I wouldn't hit anything.
During this process, somehow I sprained the index finger but fortunately didn't hit any objects.
 
No speed was displayed for my ~30 min drive tonight, plus parking cameras were hosed too. Well, at least Google Maps in CarPlay showed me my speed.
Once home, I did soft reset and the issue seems to fixed itself, but man...that's a bad one.... I just sent emails both to swfeedback and customercare

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deemz said:
No speed was displayed for my ~30 min drive tonight, plus parking cameras were hosed too. Well, at least Google Maps in CarPlay showed me my speed.
Once home, I did soft reset and the issue seems to fixed itself, but man...that's a bad one.... I just sent emails both to swfeedback and customercare

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Wow, that's really messed up. I have never seen that. Looks to me like a cable issue actually, rather than a software one; that looks like when a video cable is loose or similar. I hope I'm wrong.
 
Well, if video cable was loose then soft recall wouldn't have helped, I think...I don't think it's a cabling issue.
Either way, I am hoping Lucid can pul logs from my vehicle remotely and determine the root cause, as I sent them a very detailed report
 
GGT (white/stealth) and essentially bug and error free since I picked it up many months ago now. I got the dreaded Drive System Fault, however there were no noticeable issues. I waited a couple days, did a few resets, it would come and go, but it essentially persisted. I scheduled an appointment and took it in.

Now that said, I would experience intermittent software issues such as driver profile not saving, or phantom seat function "restore" buttons, but that would all come and go and get fixed with an update. As an early adopter, I don't give a shit about that stuff generally. But in my case, they have all been very mild glitches.

The items I identified for repair:
- slow driver window (the seals were too tight)
- Drive System Fault indicator

They said they were backed up, but gave me a GT loaner - might take 2 weeks.

They diagnosed the Drive System Fault as a faulty coolant system sensor - ordered the part and said - likely the 2 weeks.

10 days later - all done.
- Fixed window
- Fixed coolant "Driver System Fault"
- did a seat bracket for a safety recall based on some weld lengths
- checked a bunch of other things - good to go.

Pick it up and drive home. Next day:
- Shift the stick to put it in reverse - no go. It won't shift into reverse. Sit in the driveway for 5 minutes putting it in park, drive, neutral, and finally reverse.
- This now happens 2x day.
- Also, no cameras work, no dreamdrive.

Call - they tell me to bring it right back.
- Drop off - uber home.
- Text update - master rear camera failed - they have the part, will replace and then recalibrate the system - ready at 8am the next day.
- confirm the stalk issue with reverse is a software bug - patch coming.

I chalk it up to bad/lucky timing on the camera and really appreciate the effort and hard work the San Jose Service center put in to get SpaceGhost back on the road. Well done team.
 
SpaceGhost said:
GGT (white/stealth) and essentially bug and error free since I picked it up many months ago now. I got the dreaded Drive System Fault, however there were no noticeable issues. I waited a couple days, did a few resets, it would come and go, but it essentially persisted. I scheduled an appointment and took it in.

Now that said, I would experience intermittent software issues such as driver profile not saving, or phantom seat function "restore" buttons, but that would all come and go and get fixed with an update. As an early adopter, I don't give a shit about that stuff generally. But in my case, they have all been very mild glitches.

The items I identified for repair:
- slow driver window (the seals were too tight)
- Drive System Fault indicator

They said they were backed up, but gave me a GT loaner - might take 2 weeks.

They diagnosed the Drive System Fault as a faulty coolant system sensor - ordered the part and said - likely the 2 weeks.

10 days later - all done.
- Fixed window
- Fixed coolant "Driver System Fault"
- did a seat bracket for a safety recall based on some weld lengths
- checked a bunch of other things - good to go.

Pick it up and drive home. Next day:
- Shift the stick to put it in reverse - no go. It won't shift into reverse. Sit in the driveway for 5 minutes putting it in park, drive, neutral, and finally reverse.
- This now happens 2x day.
- Also, no cameras work, no dreamdrive.

Call - they tell me to bring it right back.
- Drop off - uber home.
- Text update - master rear camera failed - they have the part, will replace and then recalibrate the system - ready at 8am the next day.
- confirm the stalk issue with reverse is a software bug - patch coming.

I chalk it up to bad/lucky timing on the camera and really appreciate the effort and hard work the San Jose Service center put in to get SpaceGhost back on the road. Well done team.
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Appreciate the detail--helps the rest of us! Thanks for taking the time. (Mine was probably alongside yours in San Jose :) )
 
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