New accelerator curve?

It will tell you when regen is limited due to cold as well, though only past a certain threshold. If you look at the Charge/Power meter on your dash, it has a (admittedly very discrete) white arc starting at the top center and curving towards the bottom left. That shows at what point regen will max out. It's hard to describe, but it makes sense when you know to look for it and match it up with the drive feeling.
I did look at that when it was happening and it didn't correlate to anything I was feeling, like when it is in a full charge state. Those arc marks match with the limited regen. but not so much in the cold.
 
It will tell you when regen is limited due to cold as well, though only past a certain threshold. If you look at the Charge/Power meter on your dash, it has a (admittedly very discrete) white arc starting at the top center and curving towards the bottom left. That shows at what point regen will max out. It's hard to describe, but it makes sense when you know to look for it and match it up with the drive feeling.
Could you please provide a picture and describe it? You could be right, battery could be cold, I'm not exactly sure. But I'd like to investigate it a bit further because in 22k miles of owning the car, I've never had this feeling before and not being able to predict when the car stops is disturbing the whole point of one pedal driving for me
 
Could you please provide a picture and describe it? You could be right, battery could be cold, I'm not exactly sure. But I'd like to investigate it a bit further because in 22k miles of owning the car, I've never had this feeling before and not being able to predict when the car stops is disturbing the whole point of one pedal driving for me
I'll take a picture tonight if somebody else doesn't beat me to it. To be clear though, despite all that I said, I also find it a little unsettling every time it happens and wish we had blended braking to make the behavior consistent. All these warnings and gauges and techniques make it better than just guessing, but still, surprises while driving are not good.
 
Oops, took a picture and then forgot to upload it.
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Where the solid white arc on the left stops is the maximum amount of power regen will accept. If you keep the needle within the solid area regen should feel normal. If you try to slow down more quickly than that, you need your friction brakes. Mine was only limited here due to cold (around 32F), not battery level.
 
Oops, took a picture and then forgot to upload it.
Here:
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Where the solid white arc on the left stops is the maximum amount of power regen will accept. If you keep the needle within the solid area regen should feel normal. If you try to slow down more quickly than that, you need your friction brakes. Mine was only limited here due to cold (around 32F), not battery level.
You're correct, I went on an hour drive and kept an eye on it and was watching to see how long it took and it was slowly creeping down. Took basically the whole drive for my regen to. Become accessible.

I'm happy that it's simply just that the battery is cold, and I'm happy lucid is managing it so we can keep the lives of our battery long.

I wish they'd just tell us that. I didn't see this mentioned in the notes anywhere.

If it is marked, please link because I'd love to see the details on this.

Otherwise, admin can probably mark this as resolved and close the thread.

Thanks!
 

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You're correct, I went on an hour drive and kept an eye on it and was watching to see how long it took and it was slowly creeping down. Took basically the whole drive for my regen to. Become accessible.

I'm happy that it's simply just that the battery is cold, and I'm happy lucid is managing it so we can keep the lives of our battery long.

I wish they'd just tell us that. I didn't see this mentioned in the notes anywhere.

If it is marked, please link because I'd love to see the details on this.

Otherwise, admin can probably mark this as resolved and close the thread.

Thanks!
It was included in the 2.3.0 release notes:

DYNAMIC POWER GAUGE
The dynamic power gauge surrounding the speedometer now includes an indication when regenerative braking is limited due to cold battery temperature or high state of charge.
 
Oops, took a picture and then forgot to upload it.
Here:
View attachment 24955

Where the solid white arc on the left stops is the maximum amount of power regen will accept. If you keep the needle within the solid area regen should feel normal. If you try to slow down more quickly than that, you need your friction brakes. Mine was only limited here due to cold (around 32F), not battery level.
What, uh, speed were you going? I haven't seen that number before. Also, you need windshield washer fluid, bro.
 
It was included in the 2.3.0 release notes:

DYNAMIC POWER GAUGE
The dynamic power gauge surrounding the speedometer now includes an indication when regenerative braking is limited due to cold battery temperature or high state of charge.
Thanks for providing that.

I think I expected some type of a notice/warning or symbol or something more obvious. Glad I know what to look for now.
 
Thanks for providing that.

I think I expected some type of a notice/warning or symbol or something more obvious. Glad I know what to look for now.
There is a brief warning and a symbol. The regen part of the gauge looks different.
 
What, uh, speed were you going? I haven't seen that number before. Also, you need windshield washer fluid, bro.
Silly iPhone doing a long exposure because it's dark. Caught me in between speeds.
Also I don't know if you've noticed, but the windshield washer fluid sensor is just wrong. It must be a float switch, because the warning goes off when I take a hard turn. It's also been warning for about a month now despite the fact that I use it almost every day and it's still spraying. I was trying to use up what's in there before switching to a different type, but maybe I'll just have to syphon it.
 
Silly iPhone doing a long exposure because it's dark. Caught me in between speeds.
Also I don't know if you've noticed, but the windshield washer fluid sensor is just wrong. It must be a float switch, because the warning goes off when I take a hard turn. It's also been warning for about a month now despite the fact that I use it almost every day and it's still spraying. I was trying to use up what's in there before switching to a different type, but maybe I'll just have to syphon it.
I have never seen that light, actually, haha. I’ve never run low. Maybe I just don’t clean my windshield as much; that’s entirely possible.
 
It was included in the 2.3.0 release notes:

DYNAMIC POWER GAUGE
The dynamic power gauge surrounding the speedometer now includes an indication when regenerative braking is limited due to cold battery temperature or high state of charge.
2023 AT with 25k - So this accounts why last winter 3-3.3 mi/kwh and this winter1.8-2.2mi/kwh. Noted decrease in mi/kwh after recent updates. If so, can this be undone as it is significant impact on range/anxiety in long winter road trips with suboptimal level 3 charging infrastructure.
 
2023 AT with 25k - So this accounts why last winter 3-3.3 mi/kwh and this winter1.8-2.2mi/kwh. Noted decrease in mi/kwh after recent updates. If so, can this be undone as it is significant impact on range/anxiety in long winter road trips with suboptimal level 3 charging infrastructure.
Huh? The behavior didn't change, the UI changed to show what's been happening all along.
 
range is mi/kwh x soc x kw. If high regen is less aggressive, it must decrease ability to regen battery charge? My mistake, so decreased ability to regen battery charge is another factor in range which is not in equation. Asking for a friend.
 
range is mi/kwh x soc x kw. If high regen is less aggressive, it must decrease ability to regen battery charge? My mistake, so decreased ability to regen battery charge is another factor in range which is not in equation. Asking for a friend.
I'm confused what you're saying. Regen has always been reduced at a high SoC or low temperatures. In all EVs with regen. That's just how current battery technology works - the battery pack can't safely accept the same amount of power when nearly full or too cold. All we're talking about here is an update to the gauge in the dashboard which actually shows when this is happening, rather than leaving you guessing. I'm not saying you don't have lower efficiency, but I am saying it's not related to this particular change that you're responding to. I am also curious if you've tried actually comparing the real world range you get now vs what you saw last year, because my gut tells me (really I have no evidence, just a feeling) that the math for the efficiency reading in the UI is what changed recently, more than the actual efficiency.
 
Ok, that helps. Simply a UI gauge display change. No underlying change in regen specs, so that leaves degradation of efficiency. Hard to believe this discrepancy is simply due to more accurate UI display.
 
This thread is really helpful asI noticed the same in my 2022 AGT. The phenomenon of no / limited regen in cold temps is a new experience though - I never experienced it last winter. And my efficiency has tanked into the 1s and 2s where it was previously in the 2s and 3s last winter. I’m glad for the UI update to help identify when this is occurring, but the driving experience is notably different (and quite scary at first). Never had to reach for the brakes like this before.
 
One comment I will make is if you have Dream drive ON, not even active, you cant see the meter..they move it to a teenie tiny line across the bottom like 1 pixel thick. Should be a little thicker to see.
 
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