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Yes, I now think Lucid should make changes seeing as how almost nobody is liking it.Interesting among the many positives they pointed out, they did ding it for a subpar standard audio system. This does validate what owners with this system have said.
It sounds like there is benefit in adjusting SS Base so that it sounds better though. The options should be good and incredible, not terrible and incredible.The audio system upgrade is a steal at that price for what you get in my opinion. This is coming from someone with the option being non-optional, but I feel like folks make their bed and lay in it when skimping out.
A post-purchase upgrade service would be fantastic for Lucid. Labor and parts would allow an extra revenue stream.
Fair review of the Pure and aligns with my brief ogling of the car at a service center.
Interesting among the many positives they pointed out, they did ding it for a subpar standard audio system. This does validate what owners with this system have said.
Agreed 100 percent. I can tolerate the bugs but my wife can't, and even I have only so much patience. If the bugs are fixed then a gravity is also in my future, if not, I'd likely be looking at other cars such as the polestar 3.After owning my Air for a week I think their summary is really fair: "But once you start considering the full experience (and the software issues we've noticed on other, non-prototype Airs), some buyers won't find enough of what they need here."
I know that software is a focus of Lucid's now but it still seems like they are struggling on that front. If they want to continue growing they also need to get their software bug free with useful features. Us early adopters are willing to deal with the lumps but many people want to spend $80k on a good experience and at times, the software does not give a good experience to the driver. We shouldn't have to hope that the doors open when we approach or pick between navigation and music. Hopefully Gravity will come with a HUGE software update to fix these things.
One thing is guaranteed. Gravity will not be bug free. Neither will any other EV you purchase.Agreed 100 percent. I can tolerate the bugs but my wife can't, and even I have only so much patience. If the bugs are fixed then a gravity is also in my future, if not, I'd likely be looking at other cars such as the polestar 3.
No offense but this same mindset is what I see echoed throughout this forum. Yes no EV is bug free however I hope you can at least agree that the bugs plaguing the Lucid lineup are much more substantial and intrusive to the experience than other vehicles. I mean hell when 90% of the negatives that come out of reviews all relate to the software experience it should be worrisome. Us as enthusiasts and owners of the vehicle tend to give passes to Lucid on the software front because we deem them a new product or because we feel like other cars have similar issues (which most don't, especially Tesla's).One thing is guaranteed. Gravity will not be bug free. Neither will any other EV you purchase.
No offense taken, but as someone who has gone through every single software iteration Lucid has put out, I truly believe they will get there. The current state of software is pretty darn stable so I'm not sure which bugs would be a deal-breaker, but that's also a personal issue and not an overall brand issue IMO. The problem is that every reviewer is comparing every car's software to Tesla, but again on the personal front, I hated Tesla's software. Lucid can improve and they have been, I also trust Lucid's software over Tesla's for what I need. There is definitely a lot of personal bias when it comes to software, and that's fine too. If Lucid ever took the same route that Tesla took in software, I'd probably sell the car, again, personal preference. Can it be improved? Sure. But I disagree with your last statement about it not being good enough nor consistent enough.No offense but this same mindset is what I see echoed throughout this forum. Yes no EV is bug free however I hope you can at least agree that the bugs plaguing the Lucid lineup are much more substantial and intrusive to the experience than other vehicles. I mean hell when 90% of the negatives that come out of reviews all relate to the software experience it should be worrisome. Us as enthusiasts and owners of the vehicle tend to give passes to Lucid on the software front because we deem them a new product or because we feel like other cars have similar issues (which most don't, especially Tesla's).
Tesla has made a boatload of money not off crazy capable cars but off a driving experience centered around impeccable software. I just want software that is good enough and consistent. Right now we are lacking both good enough and consistent. Thats a problem.
That's fair, there is a lot of personal bias that goes into the software experience. Tesla's software is more modern and similar to a modern smartphone experience so for the general public, its user friendly and easy to wrap their mind around. I could care less about the fun features they add to the infotainment (watching youtube, playing games, etc...).No offense taken, but as someone who has gone through every single software iteration Lucid has put out, I truly believe they will get there. The current state of software is pretty darn stable so I'm not sure which bugs would be a deal-breaker, but that's also a personal issue and not an overall brand issue IMO. The problem is that every reviewer is comparing every car's software to Tesla, but again on the personal front, I hated Tesla's software. Lucid can improve and they have been, I also trust Lucid's software over Tesla's for what I need. There is definitely a lot of personal bias when it comes to software, and that's fine too. If Lucid ever took the same route that Tesla took in software, I'd probably sell the car, again, personal preference. Can it be improved? Sure. But I disagree with your last statement about it not being good enough nor consistent enough.
Turn off WiFi.Heck even my 3yo wants to use the Rivian all the time because she knows "papas car" has a "radio" that "always doesn't work" (WiFi to LTE handoff fails 10 percent of the time or so needing an air reset but in the meantime she can't listen to her songs in the car on the way to daycare).
I couldn’t disagree with this more.Tesla's software is more modern and similar to a modern smartphone experience so for the general public, its user friendly and easy to wrap their mind around.
Totally agree with your above comments/assessment. Tesla software is definitely more modern and I hope Lucid can get there soon.That's fair, there is a lot of personal bias that goes into the software experience. Tesla's software is more modern and similar to a modern smartphone experience so for the general public, its user friendly and easy to wrap their mind around. I could care less about the fun features they add to the infotainment (watching youtube, playing games, etc...).
I guess its possible to have a near perfect experience with the cars software but majority of us have not judging by the LucidUpdates website that is tracking the bugs as well. 83% of people were experiencing inconsistent locking/unlocking of doors... Plus who wouldn't like to have consistent (hopefully google backed) navigation that doesn't have the chance take you to the wrong place or gives you worse route planning? Or who wouldn't love to see that navigation and be able to search for a song at the same time? Or a key that is detected when you get in the car so you can drive away(63% of people experienced that as well according to the LucidUpdates website)? I would love the 360 view to load up quicker as I dont use it a lot of the time since its not ready by the time I am ready to leave as well. Sure I can wait but again thats not a good user experience. Idk I can go on and on. Some of them might be opinionated but I would argue that most of these are improvements that I pointed out are both widely experienced and crucial for a car in 2023.
PS. Thanks for having a discussion, always love to nerd out about these things!