Gravity vs. Volvo EX90

[marsarbu]

As a consumer/user I absolutely deplore the trend toward putting every control on the info screen. Sure its much less expensive to do it (okay, I will stop talking in their language, it is much cheaper to produce). But it is hideous. I walk by the Polestar store in the mall many times and thought the 3 on display looked very nice. Finally, I went in and opened the door and saw the same thing as your picture. I almost vomited.

No vehicle claiming to be a luxury vehicle should do this. yes, it is cheaper to put everything on the info screen, so I can tolerate it in an econobox but no luxury vehicle should do this. There should be buttons and switches for those features that one might one to execute while driving.

But, to each his own. That is why it is great that there are so many choices now. This is the first time, I believe, that I have disagreed with @hmp10.

I think we'll see some buttons coming back. All manufacturers went this way because of cost savings and FOMO. Now the pendulum will start swinging in the other direction, where buttons will be the luxury feature to have and they will start making a comeback. Having dedicated buttons will be marketed as a differentiation from the competition, as being luxury. Having only screens will be the poor's man "choice".

Want proof? Look at the true luxury, Bentley, Rolls. No stinkin' hyper-mega-screens in there. Even at the other end of the range, Hyundai/Kia, which are leading the mass segment in terms of design and innovation, said as much, that buttons are back.

 

[hmp10]

This is the first time, I believe, that I have disagreed with @hmp10.

I don't think there's much disagreement here. I share your sentiments about how far things have gone with screens and loading too many functions into them.

My post about screen orientation proceeded from the assumption that we're going to have large screens in cars whether we like them or not. Given that, I felt that vertical screens were easier to integrate into the interior design of cars than horizontal ones, and I thus prefer them.

 

[msaunders9430]

As a consumer/user I absolutely deplore the trend toward putting every control on the info screen. Sure its much less expensive to do it (okay, I will stop talking in their language, it is much cheaper to produce). But it is hideous. I walk by the Polestar store in the mall many times and thought the 3 on display looked very nice. Finally, I went in and opened the door and saw the same thing as your picture. I almost vomited.

No vehicle claiming to be a luxury vehicle should do this. yes, it is cheaper to put everything on the info screen, so I can tolerate it in an econobox but no luxury vehicle should do this. There should be buttons and switches for those features that one might one to execute while driving.

But, to each his own. That is why it is great that there are so many choices now. This is the first time, I believe, that I have disagreed with @hmp10.

I kinda agree with you.
I see in your profile you have a GV60.
Before I decided to buy my first ev, I was planning to buy a GV80.
However, I'm ready to be done with gas, oils, etc.

The Gravity caught my eye and it's taken me awhile to accept the digital displays.
One advantage I see with the digital displays is the ability to add functionality without hardware installation.
For example, the button that was added to the left of the Air cockpit display to allow the lights to be turned off while the driver is inside.
I know that button would already be there if there was no digital display, but the fact that functionality can be added without hardware possibly means something as features are added.

Now the EQS display is an entirely different conversation. Gawdy to me, but as you said, to each his own.

You gotta admit, the GV80 display is almost as large as the Gravity's.

Gravity

Polestar 3

 

[Steveinarizona]

I kinda agree with you.
I see in your profile you have a GV60.
Before I decided to buy my first ev, I was planning to buy a GV80.
However, I'm ready to be done with gas, oils, etc.

The Gravity caught my eye and it's taken me awhile to accept the digital displays.
One advantage I see with the digital displays is the ability to add functionality without hardware installation.
For example, the button that was added to the left of the Air cockpit display to allow the lights to be turned off while the driver is inside.
I know that button would already be there if there was no digital display, but the fact that functionality can be added without hardware possibly means something as features are added.

Now the EQS display is an entirely different conversation. Gawdy to me, but as you said, to each his own.

You gotta admit, the GV80 display is almost as large as the Gravity's.
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Gravity
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Polestar 3
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Yes, I absolutely deplore the Polestar 3 internal view. Given the right design, either a vertical or horizontal screen can look good and given the wrong design, it can look awful. This seems to me to be to be the latter.

While it is true that one can program a new function easily into a control built into the info system, car makers can also add functions to a computer screen even if that function is generally reposing in a button or switch. Also, many such features are duplicative. I have buttons on the side of the seat for 22 different adjustments but I also have adjustments I can make via the infotainment system.

I remain convinced that putting just about everything into only the info system is a combination of parsimonious car makers trying to save every possible penny and lazy designers.

Look at the pictures above: IMO the Lucid and Genesis look fine (I personally prefer the look of the Lucid but the Genesis does offer a HUD) but the Polestar does not. But Volvo has a vertically designed info screen that integrates nicely with the rest of the dash so it can be done.