If it’s really only 108 kWh battery, that IS impressive…but more than the Air Pure and Air Touring…
Actually, my main reason has to do with software. I don’t doubt BMW can put together a solid car (albeit I think their battery chemistry is meh). But the non-EV focused makers haven’t shown their ability to regularly update software and add meaningful features based on my understanding from friends and experience with an iX and Kia EV6. That said, their fobs work…
Granted, I have not owned my Gravity long enough to know whether Lucid has software “chops”. Our Tesla and Rivian are markedly better than when we got them because of OTAs. I cannot say the same about the EV6 we had (only a year) or our iX.
But, again, 1,000% my opinion and this is why it’s great there are many manufacturers making EVs now.
The question is will companies like Lucid and Rivian even survive long enough to reach profitability? That's a real risk.
Yep; same. I love my ‘26 X7 (went totally opposite direction w/V8) ,, in 3 years will see where Lucid is. Endless waiting; i ran out of time. But if BMW is on radar just do it and come back to Lucid or other later.Well, I have to admit it - I am starting to think about a Gravity Plan B. I just don't have a ton of confidence I'm going to get this car any time soon. There's a very real possibility this gets dragged out into 2026. Gosh, I hope I am wrong, but at a certain point I have to wonder: Maybe Lucid's just not that into me. Since there's nothing else to talk about besides arguing about what Lucid should or shouldn't have communicated and when, or speculating on holdups, maybe at least it would be fun to talk about alternatives (and how and why they don't compare)
I think I would go in one of two directions:
Rivian R1S, probably a tri-motor with max range.
Lucid Air GT.
- Pros: Comparable vehicle class/size/convenience/camp mode, same (better) acceleration figures (not necessary but fun), price (cheaper than GT, much cheaper than DE), better lease/finance terms, tintable glass roof, more established automaker with more service centers and fielded vehicles. Ride in the 2nd gen is supposed to be pretty good. Oh, and I can get one now.
- Cons: Less range/efficiency, no NACS (helpful for me because I have a Tesla now, which I will keep, and so home charging will require a new charger or an adaptor), MUCH slower Supercharging and thus less road-trip-ability, much less refined cabin (it's not bad but not on Lucid level), packaging not as good (less overall room, 3rd row not as useful - although i will use row 3 extremely rarely). Overall driving dynamics won't be nearly as good as Lucid.
- Pros: Probably a better driving car overall. Still a Lucid with a beautiful interior (honestly I think Lucid's interiors are the best in the business to my tastes right now). Cheap as s*** and incentivized to heck right now. AVAILABLE NOW.
- Cons: Much less convenience. Even a significant downgrade from my Tesla S with a hatch - I hate the Air trunk. Ultimately, it just isn't the class of vehicle I was looking to buy just now. No NACS. No Tesla SC Boost. Also I personally don't think the Air looks as good as Gravity. I hate the contrasting color and shape/size of the C pillar - it reminds me of the bad Cadillacs from the 80s and makes it look like an old man's car (though the rest of the car looks quite good). I still hear scary stuff about the software. It will feel like 2nd prize.
OK, I said 2, but just for giggles I'll throw in the Hummer EV SUV.
What about you guys? Anyone else starting to get dismayed? Do you have a drop-dead point where you finally leave your abusive car-teaser? If you did, into whose willing arms would you run?
- Pros: I freaking love the removeable T-Top feature. It's totally unique in the world and just so much fun (though I question how often I would actually use it - manual removal and stowage cannot be a simple procedure). Still a stupid acceleration vehicle. Can go anywhere! Crab Walk (not sure what the point is but fun for a toy). Has an undeniable cool factor; I'm ashamed to admit it but I still go "oooh" when I see one and can't deny I kind of want one. Cheaper than Gravity. I could be driving one this weekend.
- Cons: Just about everything else. Efficiency is a joke, no NACS, DC Fast Charging will be a pain, this thing probably can't road trip. Interior is, uhhh, not good. I test drove one and there were squeaks and rattles all over the place.
Unfortunately there is more to it than just swapping out the charge port. A carmaker would also have to swap in a different, notably larger charge controller box, if it could be engineered to be retrofittable. A pretty substantial change.
Our Air was in a collision, and the other car was totaled. We had a hole in our bumper and decent damage, but I literally barely felt a jolt.
Gravity is about 10% heavier than the Model X.
Looked at this also.
Con #4 is my main problem. The Gravity is at the top of my price range. I could afford the Cayenne if I wanted it, but it just rubs me wrong to spend that much money on a rapidly depreciating vehicle when there are some great options for well under the $100K mark. I'd love have a vehicle that doesn't have the glitches of a Gravity, but it's not worth that much extra money to me. The Gravity's quality problems would cause me to wait a year or two more than they'd cause me to consider the Porsche.
It will be interesting when there are side by side tests. Aero is much more important than weight for constant high speed driving.
It’s not so much that I am price sensitive as I am unwilling to part with my hard earned money for something that I believe is genuinely overpriced literally for a name/logo.
