Gravity Orders Discussion

[Blue Lectroid]

If the press cars are not fully functional, I don't see that going over well in a press review.

Press cars are more important than regular customer cars to me. Regular customers don't have online audiences.

They have not delivered those yet...they were slotted AFTER the ones going to special customers...there may still be more of those cars to come BEFORE the press cars, right?

 

[msaunders9430]

They have not delivered those yet...they were slotted AFTER the ones going to special customers...there may still be more of those cars to come BEFORE the press cars, right

They have not delivered those yet...they were slotted AFTER the ones going to special customers...there may still be more of those cars to come BEFORE the press cars, right?

Correct.
My point is they need to be fully functional.

 

[Blue Lectroid]

Correct.
My point is they need to be fully functional.

I COMPLETELY agree!!!

 

[joec]

Correct.
My point is they need to be fully functional.

Production ready means hardware. Software is always in flux for companies like Lucid.

This is not an Oldsmobile. The car’s software will be vastly different two years from now compared to when it ships. Ask any Air Dream Edition owner.

What’s important is that the HUD hardware is present in the vehicle.

 

[msaunders9430]

Production ready means hardware. Software is always in flux for companies like Lucid.

This is not an Oldsmobile. The car’s software will be vastly different two years from now compared to when it ships. Ask any Air Dream Edition owner.

What’s important is that the HUD hardware is present in the vehicle.

Production ready means hardware and software are working. Doesn't mean everything is working absolutely perfect without the need for tweaks through OTA updates, service center visits, etc.

I've said before I see the software as in perpetual beta. Especially with a highly software-driven ev like the Gravity. Completely acceptable. What I believe is unacceptable and not good for Lucid, as a company, is releasing non-functioning/missing features that customers have paid for, such HUD. Advertising a feature as "future capable", which is the case with some of the Dream Drive Pro hardware is fine, but charging customers for features and not giving ANY indication that the features will not be working for awhile is just asking for a negative press review.

If the presence of HUD hardware alone is sufficient, then being seen as a minivan is easily NOT Gravities biggest potential challenge to success.
I've been on this forum long enough and have researched more than enough to know about the "software hell" that Dream Edition owners experienced.
That's not what I'm talking about.

Lucid should not take the Volvo EX90 route. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a61454136/2025-volvo-ex90-missing-features/
However, if they do, ok, but don't expect customers to believe "production ready means the hardware is there, but not working".
The headlights are on the car, but they don't work yet. Nope.

Lucid didn't do this with Air and I don't believe they will do it with Gravity.
If I believed that, I wouldn't be on this forum.

 

[DrLucid]

Production ready means hardware and software are working. Doesn't mean everything is working absolutely perfect without the need for tweaks through OTA updates, service center visits, etc.

I've said before I see the software as in perpetual beta. Especially with a highly software-driven ev like the Gravity. Completely acceptable. What I believe is unacceptable and not good for Lucid, as a company, is releasing non-functioning/missing features that customers have paid for, such HUD. Advertising a feature as "future capable", which is the case with some of the Dream Drive Pro hardware is fine, but charging customers for features and not giving ANY indication that the features will not be working for awhile is just asking for a negative press review.

If the presence of HUD hardware alone is sufficient, then being seen as a minivan is easily NOT Gravities biggest potential challenge to success.
I've been on this forum long enough and have researched more than enough to know about the "software hell" that Dream Edition owners experienced.
That's not what I'm talking about.

Lucid should not take the Volvo EX90 route. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a61454136/2025-volvo-ex90-missing-features/
However, if they do, ok, but don't expect customers to believe "production ready means the hardware is there, but not working".
The headlights are on the car, but they don't work yet. Nope.

Lucid didn't do this with Air and I don't believe they will do it with Gravity.
If I believed that, I wouldn't be on this forum.

You do have a valid point just as others do?
Yes people who bought the dream edition did go through a lot. So are we going to just dwell on the past to represent the present and the future.
I was not able to order to the dream edition because I didn’t have the money but I liked the car and bought one for myself when I could. Should I keep dwelling into the my past and not buy things because of my past suffering.
We are supposed to move on by learning from previous mistakes. And lucid is doing it.
If there’s disappointment it’s not about the trust in the company but it’s about the lack of communication and only the ‘privileged’ getting deliveries. A Beta is a beta. It’s a product in production with tweaks to get to the phase 4 from phase 3. So don’t called the 3, a 4.

 

[msaunders9430]

You do have a valid point just as others do?
Yes people who bought the dream edition did go through a lot. So are we going to just dwell on the past to represent the present and the future.
I was not able to order to the dream edition because I didn’t have the money but I liked the car and bought one for myself when I could. Should I keep dwelling into the my past and not buy things because of my past suffering.
We are supposed to move on by learning from previous mistakes. And lucid is doing it.
If there’s disappointment it’s not about the trust in the company but it’s about the lack of communication and only the ‘privileged’ getting deliveries. A Beta is a beta. It’s a product in production with tweaks to get to the phase 4 from phase 3. So don’t called the 3, a 4.

I'm not sure if you're responding directly to me or others. Since my post is quoted, I'll say, I'm definitely not dwelling on the past.

A reference to the past (Dream Edition owners experience) was made by another member, not me. So, perhaps that member will choose to respond.