gravity is a little large for me so i was going to wait for jr to come out. that changed after watching dougs hands on review of the rivian r2. dont like the looks all that much but the packaging, software, and performance all looked really really good. so much so that to my surprise i put a deposit down. lucid beware!
gravity jr. beware
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well...if the Lucid mid-sized is anything like the Gravity as far as drive, charging, and range then I believe you'll be missing out
Rivian tops at 240kw when charging and the boxy shape doesn't lend to the best efficiency
Rvian does have nice software tho
Rivian tops at 240kw when charging and the boxy shape doesn't lend to the best efficiency
Rvian does have nice software tho
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I assume the R2 will sell well, but I don't think it really changes the calculation for Lucid's coming mid-size vehicle. Lucid needs to deliver a well executed vehicle regardless of the R2 existing, as there's increasingly large numbers of attractive vehicles being released at that price point. Plenty of others here have noted BMW's coming vehicle as well. If Lucid's execution is good, and they continue to deliver their impressive combination of packaging, driving dynamics, and efficiency, then there will be a market for the vehicle. If the fumble, then they'll fail regardless of the competitive vehicles on the market.
I'd consider the Volvo EX60 for that size but I hate the handles
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I don't know what will be in the next Lucid but the R2 is absolutely not for me. I prefer a smaller vehicle but I don't want a vehicle that is simply an IPhone on wheels. I want real buttons and switches for things I do while driving such as adjusting the AC, changing my seat, lights, etc. From the picture, other than the two sliders on the steering wheel, everything is either on the info screen or a haptic button.
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100% agree on this take. Drove our gravity to NOLA for Mardi Gras, and the charging speeds made the drive a breeze. 20% to 80% at Superchargers in ~15 minutes. Also, having both a GT Air and Gravity, I can confidently say the driving dynamics of the Gravity are a marked improvement. Almost not fair... Not to say the Air is bad (far from it!). Had several Tesla owners stop me to ask about the car while at a Supercharger stops.
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The gravity would be in my garage months ago, but until I am wife approved confident level that the doors will always unlock, open, lock and the car will start seemlessly - won’t happen, unless they have another sale like they did at year end because for that kind of sale it is more defensible too! At least until the details of the R2, ex60 p12, ix3 for sure and a couple other models that could jump into the ring too. I am not saying it changes my desire for a functioning gravity, but between my ethics that they should not have released a car that was clearly not ready and more better engineered evs coming…Lucid’s execution needs laser focus and a real, not interim, CEO. Either this guy should be CEO or they should have completed a search for one well before now - maybe Lucid has a culture to overcome?
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For what it's worth, since the latest update, haven't had any issues at all with the keyfob. Certainly was a major misstep on Lucid's part, but fingers crossed, the worst is behind at this point. Like I've mentioned elsewhere, once the mobile key is enabled, I won't even likely carry the fob, just like my Air.
You watched a car salesman’s video and bought the car! That’s happened to me many times lol
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Gravity has been shipping for about six months and is more or less a known quantity.
R2 and iX3 will ship in about six months. The GLC will take about one year.
EX60 will be about one year, longer if you want to wait for the big-battery Cross Country spec with adjustable air suspension.
Lucid's first Midsize product, my guess, may start to ship small quantities in about one year. I'd expect some snags.
I've ordered a Gravity, have a deposit on an R2, and will size up my alternatives again when the EX60 and/or Midsize are readily available and debugged.
R2 and iX3 will ship in about six months. The GLC will take about one year.
EX60 will be about one year, longer if you want to wait for the big-battery Cross Country spec with adjustable air suspension.
Lucid's first Midsize product, my guess, may start to ship small quantities in about one year. I'd expect some snags.
I've ordered a Gravity, have a deposit on an R2, and will size up my alternatives again when the EX60 and/or Midsize are readily available and debugged.
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That doesn’t mean it wasn’t a sales video. It just means it was a good and thorough one.
(There’s nothing wrong with watching a sales video and buying a car; that’s literally why such videos exist)
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My wife drives the Gravity nearly every day. We had one time the key fob failed in the beginning, but not all since the last two updates. The one time it did fail, we simply opened it with the key card. It has never failed to drive. There are definitely improvements that should be made to the software before they drop it onto the midsize (PAAK, Carplay, Android Auto, overall fit & finish), but it's definitely workable now and the best car we've ever owned. If midsize keeps the good and corrects a few things, I think it will sell well. I'd like it to come out pretty optioned out at $50k, but doubt that will happen. My sister leased an Ioniq 5 Limited Edition in that price range. It doesn't drive like a Lucid, but it's impressive what premium features it does have for the price.
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I think R2 may have a size advantage though. We'll have to wait and see, but Rivian seems to have worked really really hard on the packaging, and with the squared off back (something Lucid has already revealed won't be the case for its midsize), I think the R2 is going to be a more practical choice for everyday living. Not that that isn't fair--It's not like they don't sell Gravity to solve that problem for people who need the capacity.
I was going to mentioned that too. Or maybe the 800v Polestar 3 when it is released, as I'm sure they will be addressing some of its GHCA issues too.
Everyone should go with those BMW iX style handles IMO.
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They are weird, and electric-only from the outside. The rest of the car looks pretty appealing.
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I wouldn't make that assumption. Amazing packaging that gives surprisingly huge interior volume is a core part of Lucid's brand identity at this point. It'd be bizarre if they decided to abandon that for the midsize vehicles.
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Would it really affect your decision if you had to spend 5 extra minutes charging from 20-80% on a road trip?
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I was surprised to see that the Polestar 3 and Cayenne EVs, while being only slightly shorter than Gravity, have about half the storage space.
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The R2 is a prime result of what happens when you compromise. Rivian took the quickest path to release so they copied the R1 playbook with similar design and engineering. You can tell they compromised by the fact it’s still a 400v platform and taps out at 240kW. Rivian has also had issues with its heat management when DC charging so will be interesting to see if this becomes an issue in the R2.
From a timing standpoint, Rivian has the upper hand but from an engineering standpoint Lucid does. Admittedly, Lucid will lose sales to Rivian purely because the midsize simply isn’t available at the time of the R2’s release and people themselves will compromise to get a vehicle now vs wait. Lucid needs to drop the specs sooner rather than later though, especially if the intention is to start production by year end.
From a timing standpoint, Rivian has the upper hand but from an engineering standpoint Lucid does. Admittedly, Lucid will lose sales to Rivian purely because the midsize simply isn’t available at the time of the R2’s release and people themselves will compromise to get a vehicle now vs wait. Lucid needs to drop the specs sooner rather than later though, especially if the intention is to start production by year end.