gravity jr. beware

[Leftlane]

Also the number of people familiar with Rivian has to be a multiple of those who know what Lucid is. I see dozens of Rivians every day and almost never see a Lucid, and I am in the 7th largest city in the nation. We have two Tesla service centers and one Rivian center here, but Lucid is 90 miles away for the closest one.

 

[eelpout]

I was surprised to see that the Polestar 3 and Cayenne EVs, while being only slightly shorter than Gravity, have about half the storage space.

Those sloping back rooflines really kill the cubic feet numbers. The Polestar 3 is not a small car.

 

[boydracing]

Lucid or Rivian - you will not go wrong. Life is a journey - make sure you pick the best vehicle for the path.

 

[VLumina]

The hidden manual door release mechanisms in the R2 are going to get people killed just like the Tesla ones did. That's why I would never get one. Hopefully Lucid makes better safety decisions for their midsize than Rivian did

 

[Hammerthyme]

Lucid's mechanism is intuitive. Simply pull harder. It's what you'd likely try first if the electronic door latch didn't seem to be working. A soft pull triggers the electronic latch; a firm pull triggers the mechanical latch.

 

[BobFM]

Would it really affect your decision if you had to spend 5 extra minutes charging from 20-80% on a road trip?

Fair point, but multiple times a year, I do a 12-13 hour drive (each way), and saving 5-10 minutes per stop does add up! All in all, the Gravity is a fabulous roadtrip vehicle.

 

[illopp00]

Fair point, but multiple times a year, I do a 12-13 hour drive (each way), and saving 5-10 minutes per stop does add up! All in all, the Gravity is a fabulous roadtrip vehicle.

I was going to say it's much more than 5 mins when you look at real miles added per charge with the efficiency, battery capacity and charge rate. Yes, you can game the charging on a Rivian by just plugging in at 3% and going to 40%. Remember the target for the mid-size was 6 mi/kwh.

 

[VLumina]

Lucid's mechanism is intuitive. Simply pull harder. It's what you'd likely try first if the electronic door latch didn't seem to be working. A soft pull triggers the electronic latch; a firm pull triggers the mechanical latch.

Yep. All Lucid has to do is carry that design over to their midsize. I don't see why they would change it. It seems to be well thought out

 

[Spaceship]

The R2 is a prime result of what happens when you compromise. Rivian took the quickest path to release so they copied the R1 playbook with similar design and engineering. You can tell they compromised by the fact it’s still a 400v platform and taps out at 240kW. Rivian has also had issues with its heat management when DC charging so will be interesting to see if this becomes an issue in the R2.

From a timing standpoint, Rivian has the upper hand but from an engineering standpoint Lucid does. Admittedly, Lucid will lose sales to Rivian purely because the midsize simply isn’t available at the time of the R2’s release and people themselves will compromise to get a vehicle now vs wait. Lucid needs to drop the specs sooner rather than later though, especially if the intention is to start production by year end.

The R1 was actually conceived from the R2, not the other way around. Even if they made the R2 a baby R1, this isn't a bad strategy. I'd argue Rivian right fully compromised where it should have. They needed a middle market vehicle NOW to help them reach profitability. Things like the charging architecture can be updated on a refresh.

I get the Lucid is big on the whole "compromise nothing" philosophy, but I rather they focus on survival more. They really should be revealing something soon, as pressure is on. Everyone is showing their hands, and they seem to be really good ones at that.

 

[DeaneG]

Yep. All Lucid has to do is carry that design over to their midsize. I don't see why they would change it. It seems to be well thought out

I hope Lucid's Midsize has better exterior door handles. The ones on my Air don't feel premium, or even confidence-inspiring.

 

[billy]

agree..they're kinda cheesy and not great in the touchy feely department. but they do work just fine

 

[VLumina]

I hope all automakers do away with retracting door handles. I believe China is banning them, and other countries could do the same

 

[socktucker]

I hope Lucid's Midsize has better exterior door handles. The ones on my Air don't feel premium, or even confidence-inspiring.

Half of mine broke within 6 months…I think Tesla did the door handles right on the 3 and Y

 

[DeaneG]

Half of mine broke within 6 months…I think Tesla did the door handles right on the 3 and Y

Mine have all been fine, still the OG units since 2022. I've actually had very good luck with my car.

 

[VLumina]

Half of mine broke within 6 months…I think Tesla did the door handles right on the 3 and Y

Glad they improved in the later models. All 4 door handles on my Model S had to be replaced. Trying to get into your expensive car when your door handle won't let you is pretty embarrassing

 

[Gravitas]

We'll know Mid-Size specs in exactly 3 weeks (03/12/2026) during Lucid's Investor Day.
"...As part of the program, the company will provide analysts and journalists with an early, in-depth preview of its upcoming midsize vehicle program and highlight select software advancements supporting its next generation vehicle architecture."

 

[socktucker]

Glad they improved in the later models. All 4 door handles on my Model S had to be replaced. Trying to get into your expensive car when your door handle won't let you is pretty embarrassing

I think those are still the crap pop out ones

 

[TahoeMichael]

I hope all automakers do away with retracting door handles. I believe China is banning them, and other countries could do the same

When Tesla first did them, I naively assumed that it was done because it actually made a material difference to the aerodynamics of the vehicle. But now that we know that it's actually immaterial to the efficiency of the vehicle, and it's really just a design flourish, then I'd prefer traditional handles.

 

[illopp00]

When Tesla first did them, I naively assumed that it was done because it actually made a material difference to the aerodynamics of the vehicle. But now that we know that it's actually immaterial to the efficiency of the vehicle, and it's really just a design flourish, then I'd prefer traditional handles.

Yeah they are fluff, even Tesla figured out a way on the Cybertruck/Cybercab to get rid of them. I'd rather the way the old first gen Honda/Acura NSX ones that are also flush.

 

[tmichael]

Those sloping back rooflines really kill the cubic feet numbers. The Polestar 3 is not a small car.

We had early (Feb. ‘25) software problems with Polestar 3, but it was fixed by May ‘25 and has been a great car since. Engineering-wise, a great product, for the right wants/needs.