Gravity [Grand Touring] Reservations Tracker

[jbrichgels]

Any chance we can update the tracker to include the following?
1) delivered (with date)
2) vin assigned (with date)
3) production started date and then..
4) preparing for delivery (date)

This is what I’m used to from the early Tesla trackers.

And could we add an update that shows whether the vehicle you took possession of is the one you ordered or an orphan vehicle that you grabbed? I am curious how many orphan vehicles really exist.

 

[WeighingGravity]

We've all been saying "orphan" but I'm not sure that's exactly the right analogous word to use. Orphan implies that they built it to the spec of a pre-existing order and the holder of that order decided they didn't want it. But based on the number of these so-called-orphans we're seeing, I can't imagine that this is really what's going on.

I suspect that Lucid is building the cars they can build: Colors that are production-ready, in the highest trim specs they don't have supply chain constraints on - and then letting existing order holders race to snap them up while the demand outstrips their supply capacity and people are willing to settle for any Gravity they can get their hands on. I'm just not seeing a whole bunch of older order holders having their orders fulfilled one by one.

I have no idea why they would do it this way, because I think it frustrates people who have had long order waits. They could say to the older order holders "we can schedule your build but you will have to settle for not having X and Y if you want it" and use a process like that to knock people off the list, but based on the fact that I've had two orders for a long time and not received any of those calls, nor has anyone else I have heard of on the forum, I don't think they're doing that. It appears to be a "push" strategy, not a "build to order" one. Admittedly this proposed process would likely take more SA effort.

But I just don't know what logic is being used to make these builds. I guess, as long as nothing gets too "orphaned," it's a successful strategy while the order backlog is high and people are willing to settle. But it comes at an emotional cost.

I don't know what word is better than orphan - maybe "push cars?"

But what do I know?

 

[jbrichgels]

We've all been saying "orphan" but I'm not sure that's exactly the right analogous word to use. Orphan implies that they built it to the spec of a pre-existing order and the holder of that order decided they didn't want it. But based on the number of these so-called-orphans we're seeing, I can't imagine that this is really what's going on.

I suspect that Lucid is building the cars they can build: Colors that are production-ready, in the highest trim specs they don't have supply chain constraints on - and then letting existing order holders race to snap them up while the demand outstrips their supply capacity and people are willing to settle for any Gravity they can get their hands on. I'm just not seeing a whole bunch of older order holders having their orders fulfilled one by one.

I have no idea why they would do it this way, because I think it frustrates people who have had long order waits. They could say to the older order holders "we can schedule your build but you will have to settle for not having X and Y if you want it" and use a process like that to knock people off the list, but based on the fact that I've had two orders for a long time and not received any of those calls, nor has anyone else I have heard of on the forum, I don't think they're doing that. It appears to be a "push" strategy, not a "build to order" one. Admittedly this proposed process would likely take more SA effort.

But I just don't know what logic is being used to make these builds. I guess, as long as nothing gets too "orphaned," it's a successful strategy while the order backlog is high and people are willing to settle. But it comes at an emotional cost.

I don't know what word is better than orphan - maybe "push cars?"

But what do I know?

I think your assumptions are sound. It seems clear that our SA can look at a list of cars available to them (so I assume can be delivered to their geographic location) that don't have a purchaser assigned to them. So you are right that "orphan" isn't what they are. And you are right that it's a frustrating process. Now that we have decided that we would take a different vehicle from what we have ordered, I am on this forum too much, trying to gauge how this process is playing out. And because I think it is unlikely we will get one of these push cars (maybe unclaimed is the word), I am working on readjusting my expectations and just waiting for our ordered vehicle again! And I have gone back to considering plan B options because we have been without an EV as our main vehicle much longer than we thought we would be (we sold our Model X last December). We are new to Lucid, so we were naive about how long the process was likely to take.

I like your idea of starting with the oldest orders and offering them one of these unclaimed cars. The logistics are complicated but it seems fairer. You are basically relying on the effectiveness of your SA to get you one of the unclaimed vehicles at the moment. And I think we have a pretty effective SA but still don't think we will get access to one of these unclaimed vehicles.

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

I’d use the word “inventory” for those cars at this point. And I agree - I think it’s a mix of building what they can build and folks not taking delivery for whatever reason.

Aside from HUD, power outlets seem to be the biggest constraint. I keep hearing/seeing folks on the forum picking up these inventory cars and many don’t have the power package.

 

[Neilnaples]

We've all been saying "orphan" but I'm not sure that's exactly the right analogous word to use. Orphan implies that they built it to the spec of a pre-existing order and the holder of that order decided they didn't want it. But based on the number of these so-called-orphans we're seeing, I can't imagine that this is really what's going on.

I suspect that Lucid is building the cars they can build: Colors that are production-ready, in the highest trim specs they don't have supply chain constraints on - and then letting existing order holders race to snap them up while the demand outstrips their supply capacity and people are willing to settle for any Gravity they can get their hands on. I'm just not seeing a whole bunch of older order holders having their orders fulfilled one by one.

I have no idea why they would do it this way, because I think it frustrates people who have had long order waits. They could say to the older order holders "we can schedule your build but you will have to settle for not having X and Y if you want it" and use a process like that to knock people off the list, but based on the fact that I've had two orders for a long time and not received any of those calls, nor has anyone else I have heard of on the forum, I don't think they're doing that. It appears to be a "push" strategy, not a "build to order" one. Admittedly this proposed process would likely take more SA effort.

But I just don't know what logic is being used to make these builds. I guess, as long as nothing gets too "orphaned," it's a successful strategy while the order backlog is high and people are willing to settle. But it comes at an emotional cost.

I don't know what word is better than orphan - maybe "push cars?"

But what do I know?

So the GDE that I picked up in Miami 10 days ago was truly an orphan. The buyer’s financing fell through and the bank(s) would not give them a loan. Something about a person making 100K buying a 140K car with 4 other car loans. Their loss was my gain - I had been speaking with my SA about taking any GDE just 15 minutes earlier when this orphan appeared. He called and it was mine two days laters. It’s obviously a matter of luck and timing. And having a SA that is working for you makes all the difference. Good luck to everyone - my real GDE order was then of course cancelled. I originally wanted a 5 seat GGT but now I am happy with the 7 seat dream edition (especially after seeing the 5 and 7 seat versions look about the same when the seats are folded down).

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

I have “given in” on certain items like platinum or dd premium v pro, even sound, but I can’t get over the idea of not having the outlets. Even though I could get a massive Anker power device with 5 outlets for like $400 on Amazon… I think I’d have a Gravity VIN, and maybe even the car, if I’d been willing to get it without power. Those are, I think, “inventory” cars and power is some sort of constraint. Which is somewhat ironic in an EV…not like outlets are new tech.

 

[WeighingGravity]

Inventory cars is a much better word. It still boggles my mind that they'd build inventory orders before fulfilling specific customer orders that have been in hand - unless none of the pre-orders are for no-power, no-tech specs. And I guess that passes a sniff test considering that >75% of the pre-orders registered here have the tech package.

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

Inventory cars is a much better word. It still boggles my mind that they'd build inventory orders before fulfilling specific customer orders that have been in hand - unless none of the pre-orders are for no-power, no-tech specs. And I guess that passes a sniff test considering that >75% of the pre-orders registered here have the tech package.

Only Lucid really knows configs in highest demand. Regardless, they’d build with power outlets if they could (I believe). Every other option (like dynamic handling, surreal sound, etc) seems to be on the inventory cars.

 

[pyle112]

Switched back to a GGT from DE. Abyss Black, Tahoe Leather Interior, 20" Front / 21" Rear Voyager Onyx Grey Wheels, Platinum Appearance, everything but the HUD.

 

[Gandalf]

Inventory cars is a much better word. It still boggles my mind that they'd build inventory orders before fulfilling specific customer orders that have been in hand - unless none of the pre-orders are for no-power, no-tech specs. And I guess that passes a sniff test considering that >75% of the pre-orders registered here have the tech package.

I agree. I had placed my order for a 5-row GGT, and specced it to avoid delays (range wheels, dynamic handling, DD premium, black stealth, purluxe etc.) SA got back to me on Friday and told me that there was a car that was about to go into production that was pretty much exactly what I'd ordered, except it included the convenience package, and didn't have the tow package. I assume that this was a spec that Lucid had already planned to produce, and we got very lucky that it was close to what we ordered. He sounded confident that we'd get delivery prior to 8/30, so the extra $2,500 for the convenience package (that I didn't really want) was more than made up for by the tax credit. I told him to go for it, and we have a VIN number! Dashboard says that it's in production... I suspect that the very short time between order and delivery is due to the fact that we are already owners of a '22 AGT- I guess that the priority for current Lucid owners is a real thing. Honestly wasn't expecting to get the car this year.

 

[jrreno]

Are Gravitys being delivered now considered to be 2026 model year?

 

[jered]

Are Gravitys being delivered now considered to be 2026 model year?

Yes.

 

[johnse]

Inventory cars is a much better word. It still boggles my mind that they'd build inventory orders before fulfilling specific customer orders that have been in hand - unless none of the pre-orders are for no-power, no-tech specs. And I guess that passes a sniff test considering that >75% of the pre-orders registered here have the tech package.

To me it makes perfect sense. They are a small car manufacturer that is ramping their production line. They cannot keep the line workers employed, and can't make progress on perfecting the line, without building cars. They literally cannot hold production until they get specific inconveniently-delayed parts required by the orders that people have already made.

 

[pyle112]

Switched back to a GGT from DE. Abyss Black, Tahoe Leather Interior, 20" Front / 21" Rear Voyager Onyx Grey Wheels, Platinum Appearance, everything but the HUD.

Took a spec that came available:
Aurora Green Metallic, Tahoe Leather Interior, 21” Front / 22" Rear Orion Platinum Wheels, Platinum Appearance

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

Took a spec that came available:
Aurora Green Metallic, Tahoe Leather Interior, 21” Front / 22" Rear Orion Platinum Wheels, Platinum Appearance

My specs exactly. I am very nervous about how the platinum will look. Wanted stealth. Figure if I hate it, I will wrap the platinum…

 

[pyle112]

My specs exactly. I am very nervous about how the platinum will look. Wanted stealth. Figure if I hate it, I will wrap the platinum…

Color was probably my second choice. Now I have to introduce my 10yr old to old school halo

 

[pyle112]

 

[msaunders9430]

My specs exactly. I am very nervous about how the platinum will look. Wanted stealth. Figure if I hate it, I will wrap the platinum…

I also started with stealth and then switched to platinum to get a Gravity in production.

Platinum says "I'm here and I know I look good".
Stealth says "You think you see me, but you really don't".

Either works because the car is .

 

[rosenblumr]

My specs exactly. I am very nervous about how the platinum will look. Wanted stealth. Figure if I hate it, I will wrap the platinum…

Gonna go on a limb (for my first post), and say this isn't a coincidence, since I also wanted stealth, but took the platinum with the platinum wheels, since it was that or "wait and hope". Assume they just pushed this spec through the line, either because it is what they could make, or because it has more margin than the stealth with the upgrades....so why not?!?!

Not trying to upset people, or rub it in, (or be mocked as a "sucker") but I test drove on Saturday, they checked on Saturday and did not have the green with Tahoe available, put a spec in on Sunday night. On Monday I called my SA since I realized I made a mistake on my spec. While on the call, I asked him to see what they had in that might be close....Low and behold, same spec I wanted except Platinum and 21" wheels instead of stealth. Oh, and missing tow hitch (which I didn’t really care about). So I took it on the spot. No idea if it was an "orhan" or not, but reading this thread I don’t think so.

I put in for the lease on Tuesday, and was approved. Obviously, I want this delivered before the end of September for the rebate. Tuesday afternoon I get an email that it should be off the line and out for delivery in 3 or 4 days?!?! It has to go to california, then re-shipped to Vegas (which seems incredibly inefficient, but whatever).

As to why they don’t go to prior orders and give them first dibs on available designs....Well, of course they SHOULD. But they probably figure those prior orders are "established sales", and people putting in orders right now, might not if they don’t get the rebate, so it might create an additional sale. And whether it REALLY creates one or not, it will at least create sales on paper, which will help with the markets analysis of the viability of Lucid etc...

Anyway, looking forward to the car. I would have also preferred the Stealth, and I had not thought about wrapping it if I didn’t like it, but I love the idea as an option. Oh, and the entire concept of taking something fast since I want the rebate is so funny, since I then take the upgraded platinum package and wheels which I would not have bought, so there goes a portion of the "rebate" anyway ;-)

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

Gonna go on a limb (for my first post), and say this isn't a coincidence, since I also wanted stealth, but took the platinum with the platinum wheels, since it was that or "wait and hope". Assume they just pushed this spec through the line, either because it is what they could make, or because it has more margin than the stealth with the upgrades....so why not?!?!

Not trying to upset people, or rub it in, (or be mocked as a "sucker") but I test drove on Saturday, they checked on Saturday and did not have the green with Tahoe available, put a spec in on Sunday night. On Monday I called my SA since I realized I made a mistake on my spec. While on the call, I asked him to see what they had in that might be close....Low and behold, same spec I wanted except Platinum and 21" wheels instead of stealth. Oh, and missing tow hitch (which I didn’t really care about). So I took it on the spot. No idea if it was an "orhan" or not, but reading this thread I don’t think so.

I put in for the lease on Tuesday, and was approved. Obviously, I want this delivered before the end of September for the rebate. Tuesday afternoon I get an email that it should be off the line and out for delivery in 3 or 4 days?!?! It has to go to california, then re-shipped to Vegas (which seems incredibly inefficient, but whatever).

As to why they don’t go to prior orders and give them first dibs on available designs....Well, of course they SHOULD. But they probably figure those prior orders are "established sales", and people putting in orders right now, might not if they don’t get the rebate, so it might create an additional sale. And whether it REALLY creates one or not, it will at least create sales on paper, which will help with the markets analysis of the viability of Lucid etc...

Anyway, looking forward to the car. I would have also preferred the Stealth, and I had not thought about wrapping it if I didn’t like it, but I love the idea as an option. Oh, and the entire concept of taking something fast since I want the rebate is so funny, since I then take the upgraded platinum package and wheels which I would not have bought, so there goes a portion of the "rebate" anyway ;-)

All I will say is I am wrapping the platinum…