
GM to use Tesla charging network, joining Ford in leveraging the EV leader's tech
GM, like Ford, will begin installing a charging port used by Tesla, known as NACS, instead of the current industry-standard CCS in its EVs starting in 2025.
I wonder if lucid could make a two sided charger, similar to the taycan.(this would also make the car symmetrical!) One CCS, one NACS. Although, I dont really know if that would work because I think NACS is more than just changing the port.I'm torn on how I feel about these deals. On the one hand, I'm concerned about how they might decrease the demand for growth and development of the CCS network. On the other hand, if Ford and GM vehicles are not using the CCS networks, that means more open chargers for our vehicles. I guess time will tell what this means to us and the growth of EV adoption
Many people also don't experience any problems. I have yet to have an issue with any CCS charger here in Colorado. I also had a Tesla for three years and used their Supercharger network. Honestly, the experience has been about equivalent for me, in terms of availability and reliability. CCS has been cheaper, though. Even if I don't factor in the "free" EA charging I get on my Lucid.With all the Tesla superchargers around my area, and nationwide, I would love it if Lucid would make a similar announcement. However, if they did it would be several years, I expect. I have a Tesla and the experience charging has been very good. Just not enough superchargers in more remote areas. I've not used CCS, but from articles and videos I've seen many people experience problems.
For sure, but it would be nice to have as an option given the reliability and commonality of superchargers. As I said, dual charging ports solve this.Many people also don't experience any problems. I have yet to have an issue with any CCS charger here in Colorado. I also had a Tesla for three years and used their Supercharger network. Honestly, the experience has been about equivalent for me, in terms of availability and reliability. CCS has been cheaper, though. Even if I don't factor in the "free" EA charging I get on my Lucid.
Tesla's network is pricey. And none of this new "standardization" is likely to make them any cheaper.
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With all the Tesla superchargers around my area, and nationwide, I would love it if Lucid would make a similar announcement. However, if they did it would be several years, I expect. I have a Tesla and the experience charging has been very good. Just not enough superchargers in more remote areas. I've not used CCS, but from articles and videos I've seen many people experience problems.
Diasagree, NACS doesnt support 1000V charging. Its plug is too small to support the cooling that is required. NACS is old technology. Only saving grace is they are reliable. Don't equate reliability to technology. CCS has superior technology but not reliable. Once they improve reliability, its a no brainer!CCS is dead in North America.
With Tesla/GM/Ford using NACS it is now the de facto standard in North America.
Voltage has nothing to do with the amount of cooling that is required. It is current that creates heat through resistive losses. Charging a Lucid with an 800V battery requires less current and therefore less cooling than charging a 400V car.Diasagree, NACS doesnt support 1000V charging. Its plug is too small to support the cooling that is required. NACS is old technology. Only saving grace is they are reliable. Don't equate reliability to technology. CCS has superior technology but not reliable. Once they improve reliability, its a no brainer!
It's not more reliable, yet. Again, Tesla Supercharger Network needs to prove itself with other manufacturers before it can be called reliable for ALL EVs. There is a HUGE assumption the reliability will carry over, but from the small sample size of Magic Dock uses, that is not the case.Now Volvo switching to Tesla standard. The non Tesla charging standard will be dead soon. Great for the consumer that there will only be one standard eventually in NA and that the better, more reliable Tesla standard will be it.
It is definitely more reliable than any CCS charger. Tesla has the track record to prove it. No matter what anyone thinks of Tesla, they surely got the Supercharging right.It's not more reliable, yet. Again, Tesla Supercharger Network needs to prove itself with other manufacturers before it can be called reliable for ALL EVs. There is a HUGE assumption the reliability will carry over, but from the small sample size of Magic Dock uses, that is not the case.
You missed his point entirely. They do not have the track record to prove anything about other manufacturer cars on the Supercharger network in the US.It is definitely more reliable than any CCS charger. Tesla has the track record to prove it. No matter what anyone thinks of Tesla, they surely got the Supercharging right.
Why do you think car manufactures are switching to it? I have never once had one issue supercharging my Tesla. When the other manufactures produce cars that have the Tesla charging connector built in, then it will certainly be more reliable for them too.
With all these manufacturers eventually switching to Tesla chargers and ditching CCS, it makes me think twice about purchasing any EV with CCS built in until the Tesla charger is built in, as the CCS standard could be obsolete in a matter of years.
As a consumer, this will be best for the adoption of EV’s in North America, as CCS superchargers have too many negative stories about them. You can just look at this forum and see that. I would feel much better buying a Lucid or any CCS car if it had Tesla supercharging connector built in and could access the reliable Tesla Supercharging network and I am not alone.![]()