First 3 Days …

[Sandvinsd]

In all the high speed charging I've done as well as charging at home, I've yet to see an issue with the connectors.

There have been some issues with J1772 connectors. there were some free Chargepoint near me that had broken J1772 connectors. We had free high speed charging at EVgo stations for 2 years with our Leaf. I really did not see the problems with the connectors. When the station was down (which was frequent), it was usually some sort of communication issue. Sometimes 20’ on the phone with EVgo and them resetting the machine remotely worked, many times not and they put in a work order for a technician. When the machines were not working, sometimes one could see right from the station screen, but many other times it was plug in, it initiates sequence then the charge wouldn’t start or would start and then stop.

 

[dawktah LucidGT]

Most ChargePoint chargers are Level 2 so definitely will be slower. There are some level 3 DC chargers from ChargePoint but they are rare. I have yet to see one in my area.

The one critical to my journey home is a ChargePoint 125 kw level 3, currently free.

 

[dawktah LucidGT]

There have been some issues with J1772 connectors. there were some free Chargepoint near me that had broken J1772 connectors. We had free high speed charging at EVgo stations for 2 years with our Leaf. I really did not see the problems with the connectors. When the station was down (which was frequent), it was usually some sort of communication issue. Sometimes 20’ on the phone with EVgo and them resetting the machine remotely worked, many times not and they put in a work order for a technician. When the machines were not working, sometimes one could see right from the station screen, but many other times it was plug in, it initiates sequence then the charge wouldn’t start or would start and then stop.

Is there any better performance if you use a brand specific payment method vs a credit card? Is this even an option?

 

[Sandvinsd]

Is there any better performance if you use a brand specific payment method vs a credit card? Is this even an option?

I don’t think that would matter.

 

[DeaneG]

On the topic of EA DC fast chargers, I had quite a problem on a recent road trip with chargers failing to initialize communication with the car (Volvo VC40 EV). Turns out the problem is a poor mating fit on the CCS connector from the cable manufacturer which EA uses. The problem can be bypassed by holding the charging cable in tight and square against the car until the initialization phase has completed, about 5 seconds. See this video:

 

[HC_79]

Only 138?! That’s not promising…

I wouldn't pay any attention to the numbers at this point. They seem all over the place with people getting lower numbers than those who already have vehicles with higher numbers.

 

[chacha72]

I wouldn't pay any attention to the numbers at this point. They seem all over the place with people getting lower numbers than those who already have vehicles with higher numbers.

Zenith Red the other posted is #185

 

[HC_79]

After owning an EV for almost 3 years I have to say the EA is an absolute nightmare. It looks like they simply don't maintain the network and chargers report as online when in fact they're not working so EA has no clue anything is wrong until someone rings to complain. You end up playing musical chargers at most locations because either the charger simply won't activate or the charging speed is slow.

I was out in Fireborough in CA off the I5 last summer. I pulled into the charging location at Panoche Shell, it was 112 degrees. The chargers are out in the open, I burnt my hand when I picked up the connector and the charger wouldn't start. Moved to 2 other chargers and the same thing happened. In the end, I was on the phone to EA for over 40 mins out in 112 degree blistering heat not able to get the chargers working. The guy on the phone even admitted they need some form of shade put over them. Once someone left, I moved the car and got it working but then would only charge at 40Kw. The guy said it's probably too hot so it's operating in a degraded performance. This is just ONE of many stories I can share about how poor the EA network is.

Much better experiences on EVGo and ChargePoint but unfortunately most of their chargers are limited to 50Kw

 

[HC_79]

Zenith Red the other posted is #185

That seems to be the highest number we’ve all seen which is concerning.

 

[manitou202]

Well Rivian just released their production numbers. Higher than I expected, but under their goal of 1200 vehicles.

"Irvine, CA- Rivian Automotive, Inc. produced 1,015 vehicles by the end of 2021. 920 vehicles were delivered by that date."
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1874178/000119312522005867/d286746dex991.htm

They are about the closest comparison to Lucid. They also just announced their COO left the company in December. Not really a good sign.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/rivian...duction-ramp-up-11641849820?mod=hp_lista_pos5

 

[hellolucid]

After owning an EV for almost 3 years I have to say the EA is an absolute nightmare. It looks like they simply don't maintain the network and chargers report as online when in fact they're not working so EA has no clue anything is wrong until someone rings to complain. You end up playing musical chargers at most locations because either the charger simply won't activate or the charging speed is slow.

I was out in Fireborough in CA off the I5 last summer. I pulled into the charging location at Panoche Shell, it was 112 degrees. The chargers are out in the open, I burnt my hand when I picked up the connector and the charger wouldn't start. Moved to 2 other chargers and the same thing happened. In the end, I was on the phone to EA for over 40 mins out in 112 degree blistering heat not able to get the chargers working. The guy on the phone even admitted they need some form of shade put over them. Once someone left, I moved the car and got it working but then would only charge at 40Kw. The guy said it's probably too hot so it's operating in a degraded performance. This is just ONE of many stories I can share about how poor the EA network is.

Much better experiences on EVGo and ChargePoint but unfortunately most of their chargers are limited to 50Kw

this is concerning. GT is going to be my first EV and if i can't install chargers at home, i would have to rely on the nearest EA charging station but if they are not so reliable it's going to make my life harder. I wonder if Lucid has enough soft powers to convince EA to fix their chargers.

 

[HC_79]

this is concerning. GT is going to be my first EV and if i can't install chargers at home, i would have to rely on the nearest EA charging station but if they are not so reliable it's going to make my life harder. I wonder if Lucid has enough soft powers to convince EA to fix their chargers.

I think EA is in for a huge headache if they don't resolve the issues ASAP. Everyone is giving away 3 years of free charging and if you can't get the chargers working people are going to complain to the masses. I think they've gotten away with it due to the small number of EV's on the market but with the onslaught of EV's coming out this year the more people are vocal the better.

I've never been stranded with EA, they do get the chargers working (most times they just reset them) BUT when you call them it's typically a 20 to 40 min process which if the charger had of just worked you'd be back on the road by that amount of time. It's just frustrating to call customer service and then ultimately be at a charger for an hour when it should've only taken 20 to 30 mins.

 

[HC_79]

Well Rivian just released their production numbers. Higher than I expected, but under their goal of 1200 vehicles.

"Irvine, CA- Rivian Automotive, Inc. produced 1,015 vehicles by the end of 2021. 920 vehicles were delivered by that date."
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1874178/000119312522005867/d286746dex991.htm

They are about the closest comparison to Lucid. They also just announced their COO left the company in December. Not really a good sign.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/rivian...duction-ramp-up-11641849820?mod=hp_lista_pos5

• Rivian admitted on the last earnings call that the numbers were going to be impacted and revised them. On the last earning call Lucid did they said they were on track to deliver the 520 vehicles
• Rivian has now released their production numbers for 2021 whilst Lucid has chosen to remain silent

Rivian is being transparent where Lucid is not which is frustrating.

 

[manitou202]

this is concerning. GT is going to be my first EV and if i can't install chargers at home, i would have to rely on the nearest EA charging station but if they are not so reliable it's going to make my life harder. I wonder if Lucid has enough soft powers to convince EA to fix their chargers.

I'll be honest. If you can't install a charger at home, I would seriously reconsider an EV at this point. Charging regularly at public stations, whether it's Electrify America or Tesla, would be a pain. Not to mention it would be expensive compared to charging at home.

 

[manitou202]

• Rivian admitted on the last earnings call that the numbers were going to be impacted and revised them. On the last earning call Lucid did they said they were on track to deliver the 520 vehicles
• Rivian has now released their production numbers for 2021 whilst Lucid has chosen to remain silent

Rivian is being transparent where Lucid is not which is frustrating.

The production quantity for Lucid is much more important than the deliveries. They need to prove they can start to build at volume. Having a bunch of deliveries delayed because a "trim piece" needed to be replaced is acceptable. It might be frustrating for us, but a quality issue like this could happen to even the best companies.

So I'm hoping they built close to the 520 target, but held back a bunch of deliveries due to a minor defect. If they are way off on the 520 vehicles built, that will be concerning. Although it's still so early that all of this may not matter in 6 months if they overcome these issues.

Having said all of that, their lack of transparency is frustrating and I definitely agree they should be more transparent with the Dream Edition reservation holders in particular.

 

[dawktah LucidGT]

I'll be honest. If you can't install a charger at home, I would seriously reconsider an EV at this point. Charging regularly at public stations, whether it's Electrify America or Tesla, would be a pain. Not to mention it would be expensive compared to charging at home.

I also thought constant DC fast charging is bad for the battery?

 

[manitou202]

I also thought constant DC fast charging is bad for the battery?

Correct.

 

[hellolucid]

I'll be honest. If you can't install a charger at home, I would seriously reconsider an EV at this point. Charging regularly at public stations, whether it's Electrify America or Tesla, would be a pain. Not to mention it would be expensive compared to charging at home.

let's see. i have an electrician coming later this month to see how much work it is to install one. if that doesn't work, i may go to HOA and see if they have any plans to install one next to the clubhouse.

in other words: i really want this car.

 

[FirstEV]

The neighborhood where I live requires if you do a major remodel or new building you have install an EV charging outlet in the garage. So I have something that looks like a dryer receptical. Upon calling the electrician he said it is 240 volts 50 amps. My question is am I good to go or do I need something else? Sorry I'm new to E V's

 

[manitou202]

The neighborhood where I live requires if you do a major remodel or new building you have install an EV charging outlet in the garage. So I have something that looks like a dryer receptical. Upon calling the electrician he said it is 240 volts 50 amps. My question is am I good to go or do I need something else? Sorry I'm new to E V's

You should be good. That's the standard setup for an at home EV charger. 240V and 50amps.