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@hmp10 mobile, so can’t watch the video, but I will ask you the important question: which tires should I get?![]()
. . . the important question: which tires should I get?
I don't disagree. But it's also a bit of black magic to figure out which tire is ideal for a certain vehicle and certain driving patterns. Consumer Reports is so influential with tire choices because they boil it down it a handful of digestible ratings, and you just pick the highest rated tire that does well on the metric you think you care about the most. It's difficult enough to develop the expertise to do better than that, and it's not really feasible for most people to test fit a set of tires to a see how you like them. Particularly if you're thinking about specific weather conditions. For me personally, I'd generally just trust the engineering team that made the OEM tire choice, or else I'll buy a 3PMSF tire recommended by Consumer Reports. If I was racing, then I wouldn't leave it at that.For all the sophisticated suspension engineering in the world, the most important thing of all in driving a car is what is going on at the point the tire patch contacts the pavement. I think it's the most under-rated and under-examined element of vehicle dynamics by a car owner. There is no easier way to undercut all the work of a suspension team than to make a careless tire choice.
I don't disagree. But it's also a bit of black magic to figure out which tire is ideal for a certain vehicle and certain driving patterns.
Consumer Reports is so influential with tire choices because they boil it down it a handful of digestible ratings, and you just pick the highest rated tire that does well on the metric you think you care about the most.
I trust Lucid to give us the best tire choices.
Do you suppose the primary reason there is a 21/22 option is just so there is a stock all-season performance option?I agree, especially as all three tire choices are stamped "LM1", which means Lucid worked with each tire manufacturer to tune the tires to Lucid's key criteria for each tire. However, it's also important to understand what Lucid's criteria were for each tire. For instance, I'm pretty sure Lucid leaned heavily toward optimizing the Hankooks for range, as it wanted to maximize the range it could advertise for the Gravity. But to do that, it seems Lucid was willing to compromise wet performance significantly -- a widespread criticism of the Hankooks -- and that's something buyers to whom that matters need to know.
If you can. Tire choices are very limited by size and load capacity specs, especially for the first few years...I guess the "best" option would have been to stick with the 20/21s and get aftermarket tires...
Do you suppose the primary reason there is a 21/22 option is just so there is a stock all-season performance option?
I am now leaning toward the 21"/22" tires. Good compromise and I need to deal with lots of rain. The Michelin's seem like a better option all around. I can sacrifice a little range for safer driving in rain as hydroplaning is no joke.
I would give you a heads up to wait for full test reviews as the Michelin Primacy is LM spec and is not the same well reviewed tire you see on TireRack, for example, the traction rating goes from A to B which means whatever they did impacted the standard rain test enough to drop a grade. Not sure it’s worth an upcharge unless you are going the 22/23 route.We do, too, in south Florida (at least once our current drought is over). That's why we're opting for the mid-size wheels on our Gravity road tripper after I saw the wet performance test results for the Hankooks, although I would have liked to get the range the Hankooks deliver.
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I would give you a heads up to wait for full test reviews as the Michelin Primacy is LM spec and is not the same well reviewed tire you see on TireRack, for example, the traction rating goes from A to B which means whatever they did impacted the standard rain test enough to drop a grade. Not sure it’s worth an upcharge unless you are going the 22/23 route.
I would give you a heads up to wait for full test reviews as the Michelin Primacy is LM spec and is not the same well reviewed tire you see on TireRack, for example, the traction rating goes from A to B which means whatever they did impacted the standard rain test enough to drop a grade. Not sure it’s worth an upcharge unless you are going the 22/23 route.
not going to argue real world as it doesn't exist yet, I am just noting that there is in fact a scientific difference and you should keep an eye on it. There is 0 chance TireRack will test Lucid specific tires vs those that are non brand specific so it's all going to be subjective. Unless a car magazine decides to get us some data to tell us if it's good enough.I'm not sure this matters much, if at all. From the Tire Rack explanation of UTQG ratings:
"The Traction grade, or traction rating, as they are commonly called, is based on the coefficient of friction of a locked (skidding) tire in a straight line on a wet surface. It doesn't evaluate any dry performance, cornering of any sort, or hydroplaning resistance.
The test tires are simply pulled on a 'skid trailer' at 40mph over wet asphalt and concrete test surfaces. The brakes are momentarily locked, and sensors measure the coefficient of friction as the tire skids.
A tire that is on the verge of lockup but still rotating will generate a different coefficient of friction than the same tire if it is skidding. Since the vast majority of vehicles on the road today have anti-lock brakes, tire manufacturers design their products to work more effectively with these systems, as opposed to at full lockup. Because of this, the Traction rating isn't as real-world applicable today as it was when the test was designed." [my emphasis]
not going to argue real world as it doesn't exist yet, I am just noting that there is in fact a scientific difference and you should keep an eye on it. There is 0 chance TireRack will test Lucid specific tires vs those that are non brand specific so it's all going to be subjective. Unless a car magazine decides to get us some data to tell us if it's good enough.