Damn Lucid! My efficiency just …

[Nephron]

I do. There are a few of us that enjoy chasing efficiency as much as many enjoy speed. I do find it interesting that many who buy EVs for environmental reasons, don’t seem to be particularly interested in driving for efficiency.

Use public transportation

 

[Lucken]

Use public transportation

Not living on Long Island.

 

[Cosmo Cruz]

I don't care much about the efficiency, the car has plenty of range. It is just curiosity about why I am unable to get numbers close to the ones other owners are getting and in-line with Lucid's advertised range.

I'm always gobsmacked when I see a Prius in the left lane.

 

[larrycpa]

I live around KOP area too. Below is the efficiency of my car. Seeing yours make me to believe something is definitely wrong with my car. I do mix of city/highway and have been very generous is acceleration. Anyone else with similar efficiency in north east region with similar weather conditions?

I have 7500 miles and my winter efficiency is close to your overall. My summer is over 4

 

[larrycpa]

I’m curious to know how many Lucid owners actually care about efficiency after owning the car for a year or so. If your daily commute is comfortably less than the car’s range, I’m more interested in enjoying the drive with acceleration and all the other features, except for long road trips.

Efficiency and range for me, and yes I take the public transport when it is available. Taking the train to DC in a few weeks.

 

[Blue Lectroid]

Don't compare your efficiency with Blue Lectroid's car -- he's an alien from the Eight Dimension.

Actually, @Cosmo Cruz, I am from Planet 10 via the 8th Dimension. Curse you Banzai!!

In all seriousness, we should not compare ‘25’s to pre-‘25’s due to several efficiency gains Lucid made with the new model year cars (of which mine is one). Heat pumps make a real difference in cold weather…

 

[larrycpa]

Actually, @Cosmo Cruz, I am from Planet 10 via the 8th Dimension. Curse you Banzai!!

In all seriousness, we should not compare ‘25’s to pre-‘25’s due to several efficiency gains Lucid made with the new model year cars (of which mine is one). Heat pumps make a real difference in cold weather…

One of my fav movies!!

 

[Knucklehead]

I am a retired lithium chemist and know a bit about batteries and lithium batteries in particular. I am astounded at the batteries in the Lucid.

Curious - what specifically astounds you about the battery?

 

[kae02]

My average efficiency of my 2023 Touring, after two years and 16k was 3.28, in the Seattle area of the Pacific Northwest.

I don't care much about the efficiency, the car has plenty of range. It is just curiosity about why I am unable to get numbers close to the ones other owners are getting and in-line with Lucid's advertised range.

Yes exactly, my point as well. + concern about range for long distance road trips.

 

[jedwin]

My drive from Central Jersey to KOP service center. Efficiency of my Air Touring. Nothing crazy but drove between 70-75 MPH with 72 degrees heat with outside temperatures of 40-45

My efficiency is pretty awesome

Yup, I"ve been it that same "just under 4" range driving around Maine and New Hampshire with temps in the upper 20s--though not much on highways. On a highway drive 65-70mph the other day, hit 3.67 at similar outside temps. A happy camper; can't wait to see the numbers during our 6-7 months of days in the 50s-70s!

 

[Blue Lectroid]

Electric cars are fairly simple mechanically (relatively speaking). The biggest difference between cars with the same specs and from the same model year is likely to be the person who owns and drives the car, not that the car is flawed in some way (absent a bad battery pack). How we drive, how regularly we check our tire pressure, the wheels and tires we run and whether we do things like preheat in winter all make a much bigger difference than the operating performance between two cars. By way of example, when I drove my 2018 Tesla M3P I got very close to EPA range / efficiency. My wife got closer to 70% EPA the few times she drove it for extended periods and I lent it to a friend for a long weekend and she only managed 50% of EPA and complained about how the “range sucks” — although she did love the way it drove and obviously beat the heck out of it, LOL.

So, I could get close to 300 miles on a full charge, my wife just north of 200 and our friend? Around 150 miles.

Same car.

9 times out of 10 it’s how WE maintain, preheat (in the cold) and drive…not the car itself.

 

[wa_lucid]

Electric cars are fairly simple mechanically (relatively speaking). The biggest difference between cars with the same specs and from the same model year is likely to be the person who owns and drives the car, not that the car is flawed in some way (absent a bad battery pack). How we drive, how regularly we check our tire pressure, the wheels and tires we run and whether we do things like preheat in winter all make a much bigger difference than the operating performance between two cars. By way of example, when I drove my 2018 Tesla M3P I got very close to EPA range / efficiency. My wife got closer to 70% EPA the few times she drove it for extended periods and I lent it to a friend for a long weekend and she only managed 50% of EPA and complained about how the “range sucks” — although she did love the way it drove and obviously beat the heck out of it, LOL.

So, I could get close to 300 miles on a full charge, my wife just north of 200 and our friend? Around 150 miles.

Same car.

9 times out of 10 it’s how WE maintain, preheat (in the cold) and drive…not the car itself.

What setting do you put your regen braking on? Mine is on high. I wonder if my focus on accelerate/regen is counterproductive and it might be better to let the car coast more.

 

[Blue Lectroid]

What setting do you put your regen braking on? Mine is on high. I wonder if my focus on accelerate/regen is counterproductive and it might be better to let the car coast more.

High Regen is absolutely best for range. It recaptures the most kinetic energy and returns it to the battery. That’s said, “feathering” the accelerator — and how you do that — is of paramount importance to efficient one pedal / EV driving. GRADUAL transitions in speed and looking ahead down the road to allow for them is the name of the game when driving for range…

 

[Pragmatic]

You want the lowest regeneration rate possible that allows you to drive without using the brakes.

 

[TakeDuo]

You want the lowest regeneration rate possible that allows you to drive without using the brakes.

Lowest regen to achieve what? Efficiency? Because it’s most certainly the highest regen setting to recapture the most energy thus extending range as @Blue Lectroid mentioned before your post.

I equate low regen in the car to “EV one pedal driving for beginners” to get used to it until you can step up to the big leagues of high regen.

 

[Blue Lectroid]

You want the lowest regeneration rate possible that allows you to drive without using the brakes.

As @TakeDuo replied, your statement is incorrect if you want efficiency in an EV.

 

[Pragmatic]

Did either of you read what I wrote?

 

[Blue Lectroid]

Did either of you read what I wrote?

Yes. That is why I quoted you in my answer. Unless you wrote something more elsewhere I believe (based on my experience driving EV’s since 2012) that your advice is incorrect. You want the highest regen setting on the car and then you use the accelerator in such a way as to not need the brakes. That is the way to get the most energy back into the battery. The only reason to use a lower regen setting is to make the car feel more like driving an ICE and less like an EV.

I guess, in theory, if you could set regen lower than the highest setting and still never use the brakes it might have the same end result, but it just doesn’t work that way on the road. If you use a lower regen setting you will need to use the brakes more often than on the highest regen setting and every time you do, you’ve dropped your efficiency.

 

[thommev]

Where do you guys see the overall efficiency? Is it in the app somewhere?

 

[segbrk]

Where do you guys see the overall efficiency? Is it in the app somewhere?

Lower right corner of the pilot panel has a Trip button that shows "since last charge" and two resettable counters. That info doesn't make its way into the app at all currently.