Buying Used

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Hi All - I looked but didn't see a thread... I'm considering buying a used Lucid Air. Any advice / experience re: where to buy for the best price and piece of mind?
- Traditional car dealer
- Carvana / CarMax, etc.
- Other online options?
I don't feel comfortable with a private sale.
Thanks in advance for any help.
 
Hi there - bought my 23 AT used through Lucid. It was a rental with 7,294 on it. I was hoping for a demo but this was what I was looking for. Had looked at Carvana, Edmund’s, etc… but decided to go with Lucid because they know the car, I figured they’d have it ready to go, and the Lucid customer experience is excellent. Also, they took plenty of time to familiarize me and my wife with the various functions of the car and software system, they helped us set up the car to our iPhones, and helped with Face ID set up for both of us. For that alone I’d recommend going through Lucid. Another big plus is most of the demo/used vehicles sold through Lucid have all the bells and whistles as did mine — DDP, SSR+ the only extra it didn’t have was massage seats.

Now on the negative side, not Lucid’s fault but NY/CT/MASS state govt’s along with traditional car dealer lobby — I could not have the car delivered to the NY SC because it was used and NY State does not allow Lucid to deliver used vehicles. MASS charges their state tax even when the buyer is from out-of-state. So we hopped on a train (hey, Amtrak is OK!!) and Ubered the final miles to King of Prussia where our Air Touring was waiting for us. Since we got there early the sales person at Lucid was gracious enough to move up our appointment.

Another plus - first drive was back to CT around 150 miles. Was able to immediately cover some of the things the rep showed us in KofP.

So, my suggestion is go for buying from Lucid if you are buying used. The delivery experience is amazing as is the car.
 
There are some incredible deals to be had getting it new. Lease it to get the additional 7500 off and then turn around and purchase the vehicle 6 months later. You will still be ahead.
 
Hi there - bought my 23 AT used through Lucid. It was a rental with 7,294 on it. I was hoping for a demo but this was what I was looking for. Had looked at Carvana, Edmund’s, etc… but decided to go with Lucid because they know the car, I figured they’d have it ready to go, and the Lucid customer experience is excellent. Also, they took plenty of time to familiarize me and my wife with the various functions of the car and software system, they helped us set up the car to our iPhones, and helped with Face ID set up for both of us. For that alone I’d recommend going through Lucid. Another big plus is most of the demo/used vehicles sold through Lucid have all the bells and whistles as did mine — DDP, SSR+ the only extra it didn’t have was massage seats.

Now on the negative side, not Lucid’s fault but NY/CT/MASS state govt’s along with traditional car dealer lobby — I could not have the car delivered to the NY SC because it was used and NY State does not allow Lucid to deliver used vehicles. MASS charges their state tax even when the buyer is from out-of-state. So we hopped on a train (hey, Amtrak is OK!!) and Ubered the final miles to King of Prussia where our Air Touring was waiting for us. Since we got there early the sales person at Lucid was gracious enough to move up our appointment.

Another plus - first drive was back to CT around 150 miles. Was able to immediately cover some of the things the rep showed us in KofP.

So, my suggestion is go for buying from Lucid if you are buying used. The delivery experience is amazing as is the car.
Thank you - this looks like a great option. And I see on the Forum that my nearest Studio / Service Center in PA is reopening. Will definitely check this out. Thanks!
 
I'm surprised to see you so reluctant to go with a private sale, as that's my vast preference. I look for a low mileage sale by the original owner, and am sure to verify a clean title, other than liens. Certainly no salvage title. Meet-ups always in a public location, like a fast food parking lot. No matter how good the vehicle may look, or what the CarFax says, I always have it inspected by an independent mechanic. If all looks good, I either conclude the sale where the seller's lienholder is located, or (if a clean title) at either my bank or the seller's bank. Verified/Notarized signatures, as required. I figure these private sales can be a win/win, as meny sellers only alternative is an (often low-ball) offer from some dealer. Armed with the cost of any repairs items from the inspection, and some good research, you should be able to negotiate a good deal. Craigslist is my preferred go-to source, as it seems to attract my type of seller. Private party sales can be particularly good in states like AZ, where sales tax is not charged on them. BTW, I make it a practice to sell my vehicles the same way I like to buy them. I'm totally up front about the vehicle's condition, and insist on the buyer having a mechanic check it out. No regrets yet.
 
I'm surprised to see you so reluctant to go with a private sale, as that's my vast preference. I look for a low mileage sale by the original owner, and am sure to verify a clean title, other than liens. Certainly no salvage title. Meet-ups always in a public location, like a fast food parking lot. No matter how good the vehicle may look, or what the CarFax says, I always have it inspected by an independent mechanic. If all looks good, I either conclude the sale where the seller's lienholder is located, or (if a clean title) at either my bank or the seller's bank. Verified/Notarized signatures, as required. I figure these private sales can be a win/win, as meny sellers only alternative is an (often low-ball) offer from some dealer. Armed with the cost of any repairs items from the inspection, and some good research, you should be able to negotiate a good deal. Craigslist is my preferred go-to source, as it seems to attract my type of seller. Private party sales can be particularly good in states like AZ, where sales tax is not charged on them. BTW, I make it a practice to sell my vehicles the same way I like to buy them. I'm totally up front about the vehicle's condition, and insist on the buyer having a mechanic check it out. No regrets yet.
I like your system for purchasing. But I don't have the patience to use your system for selling.

The only problem I see on purchasing is finding a mechanic who can properly inspect a Lucid. It occurs to me that it would be a good and useful service if there were a thread in the local community section where users could post their experiences with mechanics. It would be similar to the way that users on other car forums report their good and bad service departments.
 
I'm surprised to see you so reluctant to go with a private sale, as that's my vast preference. I look for a low mileage sale by the original owner, and am sure to verify a clean title, other than liens. Certainly no salvage title. Meet-ups always in a public location, like a fast food parking lot. No matter how good the vehicle may look, or what the CarFax says, I always have it inspected by an independent mechanic. If all looks good, I either conclude the sale where the seller's lienholder is located, or (if a clean title) at either my bank or the seller's bank. Verified/Notarized signatures, as required. I figure these private sales can be a win/win, as meny sellers only alternative is an (often low-ball) offer from some dealer. Armed with the cost of any repairs items from the inspection, and some good research, you should be able to negotiate a good deal. Craigslist is my preferred go-to source, as it seems to attract my type of seller. Private party sales can be particularly good in states like AZ, where sales tax is not charged on them. BTW, I make it a practice to sell my vehicles the same way I like to buy them. I'm totally up front about the vehicle's condition, and insist on the buyer having a mechanic check it out. No regrets yet.
Thanks - I haven't had good luck with private sales - ended up costing me more $$. I think I just don't have the skill set for it. But I'm glad its worked out for you!
 
I like your system for purchasing. But I don't have the patience to use your system for selling.

The only problem I see on purchasing is finding a mechanic who can properly inspect a Lucid. It occurs to me that it would be a good and useful service if there were a thread in the local community section where users could post their experiences with mechanics. It would be similar to the way that users on other car forums report their good and bad service departments.

Oddly enough, my selling has been the simplest of all. Almost all have been to the first buyer who showed up, but I take good care of my vehicles, give them an honest assessment, insist on an inspection, and price them pretty fairly. People seem to respond very well to that approach.

Good point about the mechanic, as my comments were more oriented to ICE cars. Of course, having Lucid do the inspection would be the far and away winner, if that's anywhere nearby. Short of that, I would thoroughly test how it drives, brakes, HVAC, lights, etc., and have the mechanic look for any indication of accident repairs, signs of uneven tire wear, odd noises or the like. Definitely less to rely on many mechanics for.
 
Hi All - Another Buying Used question - I can't tell on the Lucid website if any of the used Air Touring 2023's have the heated steering wheel. None list it as there, but several have the DreamDrive Pro, and the DreamDrive Pro description says it "requires Comfort & Convenience package" - so if it has one it has the other?
Here's an example (if the link works):
Thank you!
 
Oddly enough, my selling has been the simplest of all. Almost all have been to the first buyer who showed up, but I take good care of my vehicles, give them an honest assessment, insist on an inspection, and price them pretty fairly. People seem to respond very well to that approach.

Good point about the mechanic, as my comments were more oriented to ICE cars. Of course, having Lucid do the inspection would be the far and away winner, if that's anywhere nearby. Short of that, I would thoroughly test how it drives, brakes, HVAC, lights, etc., and have the mechanic look for any indication of accident repairs, signs of uneven tire wear, odd noises or the like. Definitely less to rely on many mechanics for.
Perhaps a side section of this forum could be set aside for potential Lucid owners who might want to buy from present Lucid owners on this forum.
Ex. some may sell an Air to buy a Gravity, or those who wish to sell their present Lucid to buy a more updated or higher trim Lucid(Ex Pure or Touring owners who may want to upgrade to a Grand Touring or others on this forum who just buy new cars every 5 year or so, and others when their warranty runs out. There are any number of reasons why a Lucid owner may want to sell his car privately rather than trade it in. This could be a win-win situation for both seller and buyer. Just an idea.
 
Perhaps a side section of this forum could be set aside for potential Lucid owners who might want to buy from present Lucid owners on this forum.
Ex. some may sell an Air to buy a Gravity, or those who wish to sell their present Lucid to buy a more updated or higher trim Lucid(Ex Pure or Touring owners who may want to upgrade to a Grand Touring or others on this forum who just buy new cars every 5 year or so, and others when their warranty runs out. There are any number of reasons why a Lucid owner may want to sell his car privately rather than trade it in. This could be a win-win situation for both seller and buyer. Just an idea.
The forum does have a marketplace section for this.
 
I bought my 2022 Air GT last December with less than 10K miles from a local Acura dealer who received it on trade. It at least got looked at by a team at the dealership who probably didn't know much specific about Lucid's. I felt I had a little lemon law protection going with a dealer but there is always a leap of faith. I also knew that there was 2 yrs of remaining warranty (and 1 yr of EA charging). I felt a whole lot better when I soon found the previous owner and his posts on this forum ... I could tell he took pride in the car (he should be close to receiving his better-family-fit Gravity). I then discovered that going through a dealer allowed me to apply (no guarantee) and eventually receive a $4K state rebate for EVs. I love the fact that my 2022 AGT is fully featured with DDPro and SSPro (and a heated steering wheel).
 
Anything I should be wary of? I am a Tesla refugee who just tried a 2022 Rivian for 6 months and it's been a nightmare. I chalk some of it up to the fact that I bought the first model year and they seem to have frequently had a long list of issues. As a result I've been looking at later model used Lucid's, preferably 2024. I noticed that most of the 2023s that I was looking at on their website were manufactured in October 2022, which made me a bit nervous.
 
Anything I should be wary of? I am a Tesla refugee who just tried a 2022 Rivian for 6 months and it's been a nightmare. I chalk some of it up to the fact that I bought the first model year and they seem to have frequently had a long list of issues. As a result I've been looking at later model used Lucid's, preferably 2024. I noticed that most of the 2023s that I was looking at on their website were manufactured in October 2022, which made me a bit nervous.
Mostly they have only made one car, the Air, so other than trim there is not much significant in model years. There are some things, though. There were some problems with the speakers under the dash in the foot well area that had a rattle. That has now taken care of with a "tape fix". The dealer can do this if you hear it, and it's really obvious with the base in the front of the cabin. Before 2025 there is significant motor wine on the dual motor cars. It's not as loud as a Rivian but obvious at low speeds. To my ears it sounds like alternator whine from a bad ground on a stereo because it changes pitch with speed. After 30 mph, it pretty much disappears, but it was kind of a dealbreaker for me. The 2024 Pure is RWD so that is not an issue, but 2023 model Pure was AWD drive so you would find it then and earlier models.

After all that, though, I would strongly recommend leasing a new one if you can get it done within the next few months. A luxury car is about the worst value during the first few years. A luxury EV is even worse. Even a used one that is only a couple of years old will likely depreciate much faster than your lease payments on a new one. At the end of the year after the EV credits go away I don't know what the market will look like, but right now the lease deal is the only way I would consider it.

Coming from a Rivian, the Lucid IMO has much fewer problems, but some still haven't been fixed like the key fob and Phone-as-Key which people still complain about.

Coming from Tesla, the build quality is much better. It also is much quieter and more refined. It will seem slow at first, but that is just the throttle mapping. If you put your foot into it, it will move, but the first touch of the pedal is smooth. It makes it very easy to drive in the city. On the highway, it will have much more power than the Tesla. The stereo will not be as nice as the Tesla, even with SSP, UNLESS you listen to a really well mixed track in Dolby Atmos and play it via the Tidal app in the Lucid. Then and only then will the stereo in the Lucid be magical. It will most likely be like nothing you have ever heard before. DDP is no Tesla autopilot or FSD. IMO, I wouldn't bother lusting after this spec. They promised hands-free driving by the end of the month, but they also promised that by the end of 2024 too, and it never happened.

I absolutely love my 2024 Lucid Air Pure. With over 400 hp and RWD, it drives like nothing else. It is so refined and subtle. It probably took me 9 months to really appreciate it. At first if felt very low, wide and a bit of an "old man's car" to quote my wife. I have the 19" all-season tires on my spec, but I recently put some Pirelli P-zero summer rubber on the rear, and it made a big difference. I still get great efficiency, but now it hooks up better and is more fun to drive. The car has awesome traction control, and you can drive it faster than you feel comfortable into a corner and then get on the throttle and really feel it rotate. The systems really work well to let the car do amazing things and letting you pretend you are a skilled driver. It's not idiot-proof, but it's not like driving a computer and the systems don't fight you. No Tesla I have ever driven (3, Y, Y Juniper, X, S, S Plaid, CT) drives like this. All the Teslas have jerky throttle response and lack refinement. Even the new Y, although it rides nicer, does not ride like the Air. The Air gives you more feedback through the steering wheel, but your butt will feel how the ride is smoother. In the Tesla, the steering wheel is more isolated from the road, but you still have a bouncy ride that can feel and sound crashy.

I had a Polestar 2 before the Pure, and I loved that car. It was smooth compared to a Tesla and handled much better and was easy to understand. You could drive that car like an idiot and do things you shouldn't have been able to do, but it was obvious it was the car's systems making the magic and not the driver. The Lucid takes that great performance and tuning and takes it to a level that is almost invisible, and I think that makes it difficult to understand on a test drive or even after a few months of driving. That's why I think the 2024 and newer Pure is such a unicorn. Great performance, storage, efficiency and comfort. It just does so much stuff so well. I have drive then Touring and the Grand Touring and they are tremendous too but the dual-motor cars handle differently.

I tease myself with the idea my next car will be an ionic 5 N but it would be difficult to pay more for that car to get half the range, half the efficiency, a worse stereo and less storage. I think it would be a blast, but not as practical.
 
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