Brand new Lucid owner, serious range concerns after first trip 2025 AT

I would also add that regardless of automaker, any of those factors impact range on EVs. Driving fast, cold weather, elevation changes, etc.
Cars, not EVs. People forget that ICE vehicles never meet their stated range either, just because nobody thinks about it since gas stations are prevalent.
 
I have never gotten anywhere near 500+ miles of range from my '23 air gt. driving at 70 mph on sunny 80 degree days in florida on 19 inch all season tires that are properly inflated. the stated epa range is not achievable at normal driving conditions
I respect that you haven’t gotten it. I have gotten about 430 on my 21s in my DE, with an EPA range of 451.

That trip sucked though, because I had to drive a reasonable speed and not the speed I wanted to.

Also, there have been multiple videos that show the range meets or exceeds 500mi, under the right conditions.

For the very few times I care about the longer range, I’m glad I have it.
 
I have never gotten anywhere near 500+ miles of range from my '23 air gt. driving at 70 mph on sunny 80 degree days in florida on 19 inch all season tires that are properly inflated. the stated epa range is not achievable at normal driving conditions

I don’t know if this would be considered normal driving but I have achieved 500 miles of range on my 22 GT, but I admit it it’s a rarity. The two times I achieved this milestone , I drove between 55 and 65 mph with temperatures in the 65 to 75° range. These are all mountain highways that have speed limits no greater than 65 mph.
 
I have never gotten anywhere near 500+ miles of range from my '23 air gt. driving at 70 mph on sunny 80 degree days in florida on 19 inch all season tires that are properly inflated. the stated epa range is not achievable at normal driving conditions
I’ll bet if you research the EPA conditions and duplicate them exactly, you will get EPA.
 
I have never gotten anywhere near 500+ miles of range from my '23 air gt. driving at 70 mph on sunny 80 degree days in florida on 19 inch all season tires that are properly inflated. the stated epa range is not achievable at normal driving conditions
Lucid has proven you can.

 
first off toss away your tesla experience, you are not driving a tesla. lucid greatly exaggerates the cars range. in reality when you are driving at normal highway speeds you will see a 20% decrease in actual range, then when you factor in cold weather you can lose another 20% or so, in addition if your route has severe upgrades you can lose range and lastly as noted your driving habits can impact the range that you get.

As for EA charging, you will never see anything close to 350kwh, the charging speed goes higher or lower depending on the SOC of the car, the lower the SOC the faster the speeds, the charging curve on the lucid isn't the best, speed tapering begins early in the charge session. the older ea units have the dual chargers, but it is only one at a time.
The Touring's max charge rate is 250KW under ideal conditions and pre-conditioned at low SOC. So 200KW is pretty normal.
 
. . . driving at 70 mph . . . stated epa range is not achievable . . . .

You do realize these are, by definition, mutually exclusive? EPA testing is not meant to assess range at 70mph or, indeed, at any sustained highway speed. Some brands can get closer to their EPA range at highway speeds if they opt for the 2-cycle testing protocol over the 5-cycle protocol, but those brands also have EPA ranges that are considerably less than Lucid or even Tesla.

No serious range test has yet found an EV that will better Lucid's highway range. That includes "Car & Driver", "Motor Trend", "Edmunds", "Out of Spec Motoring", "State of Charge", and others.

If you are obsessed with getting as close as possible to EPA range at highway speeds, then Lucid is not the car for you. If you want the longest-range EV on the market in real-world conditions -- and by a fair margin -- then Lucid is the way to go.

If road-tripping range is important to you what, really, is the point of driving a Porsche or Mercedes that gets closer to its EPA range over a Lucid that will actually take you 100 miles further down the road?
 
We own a 2021 Tesla Model S Plaid and a 2022 Lucid Air Dream Edition Performance -- both on 21" wheels with summer tires.

We have done several "semi-controlled" range tests in both cars in as near identical conditions as we can manage: along the flat, straight stretch of Interstate 75 through the Florida Everglades (Alligator Alley), temperatures in the low 80's, light traffic, cruise controls set to 82 mph (a true 80 mph in both cars according to our radar detectors' GPS), and using highway markers to measure mileage. We do these tests running a loop back and forth between the State Road 29 and Snake Road exits (30 miles per leg) to even out the effects of wind and of terrain changes (which are minimal on this road, anyway).

The Tesla gets 72-73% of its rated range (348 miles) compared to the Air's 78-79% of its rated range (451 miles). Not only does the Air get more of its EPA-rated range than the Tesla in such testing, it also gets over 100 more miles of real-world range.
I wonder how this test would do in the cold conditions like the OP. We know the lucid is more efficient than any other car via epa. But do we know how efficient their car (and heat pump) are when it’s 30 degrees out? Could be a fun test.
 
We own a 2021 Tesla Model S Plaid and a 2022 Lucid Air Dream Edition Performance -- both on 21" wheels with summer tires.

We have done several "semi-controlled" range tests in both cars in as near identical conditions as we can manage: along the flat, straight stretch of Interstate 75 through the Florida Everglades (Alligator Alley), temperatures in the low 80's, light traffic, cruise controls set to 82 mph (a true 80 mph in both cars according to our radar detectors' GPS), and using highway markers to measure mileage. We do these tests running a loop back and forth between the State Road 29 and Snake Road exits (30 miles per leg) to even out the effects of wind and of terrain changes (which are minimal on this road, anyway).

The Tesla gets 72-73% of its rated range (348 miles) compared to the Air's 78-79% of its rated range (451 miles). Not only does the Air get more of its EPA-rated range than the Tesla in such testing, it also gets over 100 more miles of real-world range.
I would like to see this comparison in the cold weather. I would think the Model S LR with 19’s would do better than pre 2025 Air’s in cold weather, since most of Air’s had no heat pump. 2025’s not as sure. Maybe Kyle will test it. 🙂
 
I would like to see this comparison in the cold weather. I would think the Model S LR with 19’s would do better than pre 2025 Air’s in cold weather, since most of Air’s had no heat pump. 2025’s not as sure. Maybe Kyle will test it. 🙂

My 2022 GT gets around 2.8-3.3 m/kWh in the cold ( around 10-30 degrees). When it’s really cold ( down to minus 30 ) it’s worse, sometimes down to 2.4.

All that being said, in normal winter temps I can go-around 300 miles on a full charge, which is pretty darn good. No complaints here.
 
I have never gotten anywhere near 500+ miles of range from my '23 air gt. driving at 70 mph on sunny 80 degree days in florida on 19 inch all season tires that are properly inflated. the stated epa range is not achievable at normal driving conditions
Out of Spec Reviews just achieved 510.5 miles at 70 mph on a 2025 AGT. The car also kept driving (albeit slower) another 8-10 miles. Okay, they didn’t get the full EPA range of 512 miles…it got more!
 
As a Touring owner that's spent close to 20k miles road-tripping across the western U.S. I figured I'd throw in my $0.02. For the record, these are my own opinions, and many of my points have already been addressed by others. TL;DR - I think the Touring is an "acceptable" road-tripping EV, but the charging performance really pushes it into mediocre territory in terms of total time spent travelling, and it falls short of all the other 800V architecture vehicles, and even behind many 400V vehicles as well.

I consider the Touring an acceptable road-tripping EV, at best, but that of course depends on what you consider acceptable or not. Obviously, owners that are equipped with the 19" wheels and that travel at or below the speed limit will have much better range and efficiency results than those that have the 20" or 21" wheels and travel 10+mph over the speed limit (myself falling into the latter category). However, all trims and configurations of this car are at the mercy of the same variables and conditions, and most road trips won't have the perfect combination to achieve maximum/EPA rated range. This goes for all EV's, of course, but the Lucid Air seems particularly susceptible to less-than-ideal conditions than some of it's competitors, in my opinion.

Before I continue, I just want to mention that these opinions don't mean I don't enjoy driving or road-tripping my Lucid. There's a reason I've put so many miles on my car in less than 2 years of ownership, and my complaints are mainly focused around charging, which is, of course, often outside of my or the car's control. I really love the style and pacing of EV road-tripping, as it encourages you to stop more often and stretch your legs. I definitely arrive at my destinations feeling better and more refreshed than I did before driving this car.

The thing that holds this car most, in my opinion, is the weak charging performance and mediocre charging curve. I know that charging is a contentious topic, and I know there are probably relatively few owners here that care about it much, but I know I'm certainly not alone in my stance, either. I certainly agree that charging for a lot of owners only really matters in a very small set of circumstances, but as someone who road-trips often, I frequently find myself disappointed with the charging performance of this vehicle. To be fair, U.S. charging infrastructure still has a long ways to go to support these high voltage and fast charging vehicles, and broken and malfunctions are still common, but from my own experiences things have been improving, albeit it slowly.

For me, part of the reason I decided to purchase the Lucid was because I believed at the time it was the most capable road-tripping vehicle available due to it's fast charging and impressive range and efficiency. I thought these characteristics would carry over from the Dream and GT to the Touring, but I've found myself disappointed at how much weaker the charging performance is. I certainly understand why these trims don't have the same peak charging speeds or curve, but I feel like there's more to it than just the smaller total capacity and voltage due to having fewer cells. I'm suspicious that the LG cells in my battery pack are really underperforming compared to the other suppliers, but that's just my suspicion.

Typically when I'm road tripping I try to limit charging to 50-60% SoC due to the nature of the charging curve. Under ideal conditions, my car will peak at around 240kW and will be at or under 100kW after 50%. It takes 35-40 minutes to go from single digit SoC up to 80%. Personally, I prefer my charging stops to last 20 minutes at most, but it's often necessary to extend that to around 30 minutes so that I can reach 60-70% SoC and be able to travel a reasonable distance at higher speeds. Certainly not the end of the world, but I'm often ready to get back on the road 10-15 minutes sooner than the car is. If my car was capable of charging from 10-80% in 20-30 minutes as some of its competition does instead of 30-40 I'd be much happier.

I apologize for the rant, but I just wanted to share my thoughts on this subject, as the road-tripping capability of my car is what I've been most disappointed with. All the best!
 
As a Touring owner that's spent close to 20k miles road-tripping across the western U.S. I figured I'd throw in my $0.02. For the record, these are my own opinions, and many of my points have already been addressed by others. TL;DR - I think the Touring is an "acceptable" road-tripping EV, but the charging performance really pushes it into mediocre territory in terms of total time spent travelling, and it falls short of all the other 800V architecture vehicles, and even behind many 400V vehicles as well.

I consider the Touring an acceptable road-tripping EV, at best, but that of course depends on what you consider acceptable or not. Obviously, owners that are equipped with the 19" wheels and that travel at or below the speed limit will have much better range and efficiency results than those that have the 20" or 21" wheels and travel 10+mph over the speed limit (myself falling into the latter category). However, all trims and configurations of this car are at the mercy of the same variables and conditions, and most road trips won't have the perfect combination to achieve maximum/EPA rated range. This goes for all EV's, of course, but the Lucid Air seems particularly susceptible to less-than-ideal conditions than some of it's competitors, in my opinion.

Before I continue, I just want to mention that these opinions don't mean I don't enjoy driving or road-tripping my Lucid. There's a reason I've put so many miles on my car in less than 2 years of ownership, and my complaints are mainly focused around charging, which is, of course, often outside of my or the car's control. I really love the style and pacing of EV road-tripping, as it encourages you to stop more often and stretch your legs. I definitely arrive at my destinations feeling better and more refreshed than I did before driving this car.

The thing that holds this car most, in my opinion, is the weak charging performance and mediocre charging curve. I know that charging is a contentious topic, and I know there are probably relatively few owners here that care about it much, but I know I'm certainly not alone in my stance, either. I certainly agree that charging for a lot of owners only really matters in a very small set of circumstances, but as someone who road-trips often, I frequently find myself disappointed with the charging performance of this vehicle. To be fair, U.S. charging infrastructure still has a long ways to go to support these high voltage and fast charging vehicles, and broken and malfunctions are still common, but from my own experiences things have been improving, albeit it slowly.

For me, part of the reason I decided to purchase the Lucid was because I believed at the time it was the most capable road-tripping vehicle available due to it's fast charging and impressive range and efficiency. I thought these characteristics would carry over from the Dream and GT to the Touring, but I've found myself disappointed at how much weaker the charging performance is. I certainly understand why these trims don't have the same peak charging speeds or curve, but I feel like there's more to it than just the smaller total capacity and voltage due to having fewer cells. I'm suspicious that the LG cells in my battery pack are really underperforming compared to the other suppliers, but that's just my suspicion.

Typically when I'm road tripping I try to limit charging to 50-60% SoC due to the nature of the charging curve. Under ideal conditions, my car will peak at around 240kW and will be at or under 100kW after 50%. It takes 35-40 minutes to go from single digit SoC up to 80%. Personally, I prefer my charging stops to last 20 minutes at most, but it's often necessary to extend that to around 30 minutes so that I can reach 60-70% SoC and be able to travel a reasonable distance at higher speeds. Certainly not the end of the world, but I'm often ready to get back on the road 10-15 minutes sooner than the car is. If my car was capable of charging from 10-80% in 20-30 minutes as some of its competition does instead of 30-40 I'd be much happier.

I apologize for the rant, but I just wanted to share my thoughts on this subject, as the road-tripping capability of my car is what I've been most disappointed with. All the best!
I second your opinion Shane; my sequence of experiences mirror you words. Love my AT but….
 
As a Touring owner that's spent close to 20k miles road-tripping across the western U.S. I figured I'd throw in my $0.02. For the record, these are my own opinions, and many of my points have already been addressed by others. TL;DR - I think the Touring is an "acceptable" road-tripping EV, but the charging performance really pushes it into mediocre territory in terms of total time spent travelling, and it falls short of all the other 800V architecture vehicles, and even behind many 400V vehicles as well.

I consider the Touring an acceptable road-tripping EV, at best, but that of course depends on what you consider acceptable or not. Obviously, owners that are equipped with the 19" wheels and that travel at or below the speed limit will have much better range and efficiency results than those that have the 20" or 21" wheels and travel 10+mph over the speed limit (myself falling into the latter category). However, all trims and configurations of this car are at the mercy of the same variables and conditions, and most road trips won't have the perfect combination to achieve maximum/EPA rated range. This goes for all EV's, of course, but the Lucid Air seems particularly susceptible to less-than-ideal conditions than some of it's competitors, in my opinion.

Before I continue, I just want to mention that these opinions don't mean I don't enjoy driving or road-tripping my Lucid. There's a reason I've put so many miles on my car in less than 2 years of ownership, and my complaints are mainly focused around charging, which is, of course, often outside of my or the car's control. I really love the style and pacing of EV road-tripping, as it encourages you to stop more often and stretch your legs. I definitely arrive at my destinations feeling better and more refreshed than I did before driving this car.

The thing that holds this car most, in my opinion, is the weak charging performance and mediocre charging curve. I know that charging is a contentious topic, and I know there are probably relatively few owners here that care about it much, but I know I'm certainly not alone in my stance, either. I certainly agree that charging for a lot of owners only really matters in a very small set of circumstances, but as someone who road-trips often, I frequently find myself disappointed with the charging performance of this vehicle. To be fair, U.S. charging infrastructure still has a long ways to go to support these high voltage and fast charging vehicles, and broken and malfunctions are still common, but from my own experiences things have been improving, albeit it slowly.

For me, part of the reason I decided to purchase the Lucid was because I believed at the time it was the most capable road-tripping vehicle available due to it's fast charging and impressive range and efficiency. I thought these characteristics would carry over from the Dream and GT to the Touring, but I've found myself disappointed at how much weaker the charging performance is. I certainly understand why these trims don't have the same peak charging speeds or curve, but I feel like there's more to it than just the smaller total capacity and voltage due to having fewer cells. I'm suspicious that the LG cells in my battery pack are really underperforming compared to the other suppliers, but that's just my suspicion.

Typically when I'm road tripping I try to limit charging to 50-60% SoC due to the nature of the charging curve. Under ideal conditions, my car will peak at around 240kW and will be at or under 100kW after 50%. It takes 35-40 minutes to go from single digit SoC up to 80%. Personally, I prefer my charging stops to last 20 minutes at most, but it's often necessary to extend that to around 30 minutes so that I can reach 60-70% SoC and be able to travel a reasonable distance at higher speeds. Certainly not the end of the world, but I'm often ready to get back on the road 10-15 minutes sooner than the car is. If my car was capable of charging from 10-80% in 20-30 minutes as some of its competition does instead of 30-40 I'd be much happier.

I apologize for the rant, but I just wanted to share my thoughts on this subject, as the road-tripping capability of my car is what I've been most disappointed with. All the best!
All good points and well explained. I believe we are still at the point where a true road tripping car can be "recharged" quickly and easily, and without anxiety. For my money, this means a car that can be filled up with gasoline. For those who wish to take road trips in their cars that require charging away from home, I'd recommend a PHEV. Electric within 30 miles of home and great for those road trips as well. As infrastructure and charging speeds improve, there's no doubt that an EV will become the better choice. Just not yet.
 
All good points and well explained. I believe we are still at the point where a true road tripping car can be "recharged" quickly and easily, and without anxiety. For my money, this means a car that can be filled up with gasoline. For those who wish to take road trips in their cars that require charging away from home, I'd recommend a PHEV. Electric within 30 miles of home and great for those road trips as well. As infrastructure and charging speeds improve, there's no doubt that an EV will become the better choice. Just not yet.
Agreed. Certainly anyone that requires or even highly prioritizes speed and simplicity above all else might want to avoid EVs for long distance travel, at least for the time being. Even despite my complaints and the occasional headache I've really enjoyed adapting to this new style of travelling, and I think as time goes on it will only get easier and more pleasant. 😁
 
I am a new Lucid Air Touring owner. I have previously owned 3 Tesla's (Model X, Model S x 2).

Yesterday I went on my first work trip. Car was charged to 370 miles. When I arrived at my destination, I had gone 182 miles and had 71 miles of range left. I had 117 miles of range evaporate.

Temp was in the 30's, average speed 75-78 MPH, 20" wheels, 2.5 software update.

Is this normal? Is there a good rule of thumb to hedge? I have experienced range degradation previously but not at this level.

Also, this was my first time charging at Electrify America. My car was telling me that a stall was available but there wasn't. Is that common? Also, this may be a stupid question, but at a different charging station there was a charger with two plugin cords. If one cord is being utilized, is the other disabled? Finally, I went to two different 350kW chargers yesterday and the max I got was 201kW- is that normal?

Also, in DreamDrive Pro mode, I rarely was able to utilize the auto lane change on a major interstate. The display would show the dotted center line- as soon as I put the blinker on, the center line would change to solid.

Trying to adjust to the switch from the Tesla ecosystem- any suggestions or insights would be greatly appreciated!
How is the cabin comfort inside the car? Do you have an issue with wind draft or cold air entering the cabin in colder temperatures?
 
As a Touring owner that's spent close to 20k miles road-tripping across the western U.S. I figured I'd throw in my $0.02. For the record, these are my own opinions, and many of my points have already been addressed by others. TL;DR - I think the Touring is an "acceptable" road-tripping EV, but the charging performance really pushes it into mediocre territory in terms of total time spent travelling, and it falls short of all the other 800V architecture vehicles, and even behind many 400V vehicles as well.

I consider the Touring an acceptable road-tripping EV, at best, but that of course depends on what you consider acceptable or not. Obviously, owners that are equipped with the 19" wheels and that travel at or below the speed limit will have much better range and efficiency results than those that have the 20" or 21" wheels and travel 10+mph over the speed limit (myself falling into the latter category). However, all trims and configurations of this car are at the mercy of the same variables and conditions, and most road trips won't have the perfect combination to achieve maximum/EPA rated range. This goes for all EV's, of course, but the Lucid Air seems particularly susceptible to less-than-ideal conditions than some of it's competitors, in my opinion.

Before I continue, I just want to mention that these opinions don't mean I don't enjoy driving or road-tripping my Lucid. There's a reason I've put so many miles on my car in less than 2 years of ownership, and my complaints are mainly focused around charging, which is, of course, often outside of my or the car's control. I really love the style and pacing of EV road-tripping, as it encourages you to stop more often and stretch your legs. I definitely arrive at my destinations feeling better and more refreshed than I did before driving this car.

The thing that holds this car most, in my opinion, is the weak charging performance and mediocre charging curve. I know that charging is a contentious topic, and I know there are probably relatively few owners here that care about it much, but I know I'm certainly not alone in my stance, either. I certainly agree that charging for a lot of owners only really matters in a very small set of circumstances, but as someone who road-trips often, I frequently find myself disappointed with the charging performance of this vehicle. To be fair, U.S. charging infrastructure still has a long ways to go to support these high voltage and fast charging vehicles, and broken and malfunctions are still common, but from my own experiences things have been improving, albeit it slowly.

For me, part of the reason I decided to purchase the Lucid was because I believed at the time it was the most capable road-tripping vehicle available due to it's fast charging and impressive range and efficiency. I thought these characteristics would carry over from the Dream and GT to the Touring, but I've found myself disappointed at how much weaker the charging performance is. I certainly understand why these trims don't have the same peak charging speeds or curve, but I feel like there's more to it than just the smaller total capacity and voltage due to having fewer cells. I'm suspicious that the LG cells in my battery pack are really underperforming compared to the other suppliers, but that's just my suspicion.

Typically when I'm road tripping I try to limit charging to 50-60% SoC due to the nature of the charging curve. Under ideal conditions, my car will peak at around 240kW and will be at or under 100kW after 50%. It takes 35-40 minutes to go from single digit SoC up to 80%. Personally, I prefer my charging stops to last 20 minutes at most, but it's often necessary to extend that to around 30 minutes so that I can reach 60-70% SoC and be able to travel a reasonable distance at higher speeds. Certainly not the end of the world, but I'm often ready to get back on the road 10-15 minutes sooner than the car is. If my car was capable of charging from 10-80% in 20-30 minutes as some of its competition does instead of 30-40 I'd be much happier.

I apologize for the rant, but I just wanted to share my thoughts on this subject, as the road-tripping capability of my car is what I've been most disappointed with. All the best!
I agree with you, with three caveats:
1) The DE or GT, imho, is the ultimate road tripper. The Touring is held back by the lower voltage, but the DE and GT don’t have that same limitation. You mentioned this; I’m just underscoring it.

2) I do not agree that it is worse than 400V vehicles, which top out at 250kW max. I simply do not believe that the difference of about 3-4 minutes (which I have tested with a Touring and Model X side by side, because I was curious) makes any difference at all on a road trip. Other 800V cars, maybe; they do have more aggressive charging curves.

3) I would literally pay someone money to bring me my DE right now over this GMC Acadia I’m in driving from GA -> FL -> CA.

Now please forgive me while I scream a little bit into my pillow before I head out to get an oil change for this stupid thing, and new rear brakes. For a rental.

There are *some* ways EVs, in general, are definitely superior road trippers. :P

Hello from Las Cruces, NM! There’s a lovely Take 5 here which is about to change the oil and brakes in this lovely road tripper. :p
 
As a Touring owner that's spent close to 20k miles road-tripping across the western U.S. I figured I'd throw in my $0.02.

I think your entire post was well-reasoned and cogently stated, especially given the high priority you seem to assign to minimizing charging stops and times -- an entirely legitimate perspective.

However, I have a different "philosophy" regarding road tripping in something like the Air. I admit that charging the car can pose issues, most arising from the state of the charging infrastructure but some from the car itself, especially in the case of the charge curve. But I am a car owner who absolutely loves driving high performance cars. For me, the power, responsiveness, smoothness, handling, and comfort of the Air make it the most engaging car in which I've ever road tripped. I willingly trade a few extra minutes -- or even tens of minutes -- at a charging station every three or so hours in order to drive this car over anything else I've driven . . . and I've owned Mercedes AMG's, Audi R8's, Lexus', Jaguars, and other such cars.

On those occasions when I get frazzled at a charging station (usually an Electrify America one), I just remind myself of all the gas station stops I avoid the rest of the year.
 
I agree with you, with three caveats:
1) The DE or GT, imho, is the ultimate road tripper. The Touring is held back by the lower voltage, but the DE and GT don’t have that same limitation. You mentioned this; I’m just underscoring it.

2) I do not agree that it is worse than 400V vehicles, which top out at 250kW max. I simply do not believe that the difference of about 3-4 minutes (which I have tested with a Touring and Model X side by side, because I was curious) makes any difference at all on a road trip. Other 800V cars, maybe; they do have more aggressive charging curves.

3) I would literally pay someone money to bring me my DE right now over this GMC Acadia I’m in driving from GA -> FL -> CA.

Now please forgive me while I scream a little bit into my pillow before I head out to get an oil change for this stupid thing, and new rear brakes. For a rental.

There are *some* ways EVs, in general, are definitely superior road trippers. :P

Hello from Las Cruces, NM! There’s a lovely Take 5 here which is about to change the oil and brakes in this lovely road tripper. :p
One additional caveat, actually: I have yet to find a road tripping EV I’m as *comfortable* in for a long road trip. The Taycan is great but not for a cross-country road trip (plus lacks the cargo space). I do not like Tesla’s “comfort”; some do, and that’s cool.

So some of it is also what you value. I far prefer the comfort over “getting there as fast as possible.” I rarely road trip competitively :p

And if I’m trying to enjoy the drive? I’d rather be in a car I love driving (I do love the Taycan; just not for many hours at a time). 🤷‍♂️

You’re not wrong though, and per your priorities, it’s a well-reasoned and lucid post! (No pun intended)
 
I have never gotten anywhere near 500+ miles of range from my '23 air gt. driving at 70 mph on sunny 80 degree days in florida on 19 inch all season tires that are properly inflated. the stated epa range is not achievable at normal driving conditions
You need to drive the EPA test cycle to get an accurate number.
 
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