BMW Earth competition

[new owner]

Same as the Air no? Base Pure ~$80k, Loaded GT ~$120k.

I suppose that’s true

 

[illopp00]

The current Ix Configured with equivalent options to a Gravity is (iX 60) is already 100K and worse specs across the board even without M package. I am not hating on the iX3, it looks like it's going to be a good EV SUV but I am skeptical of the combination of 60K and 400 mi range. It's the same with Gravity, the 80K one cannot be the same one as the 450 mi range one. Tesla should eventually bring the Model Y L over, and a Mid-size with packaging efficiency probably can handle 3 rows as well. Sticking point for Mid-size is their current DreamDrive pricing strategy won't work. I think the Air's previous version of Lane Centering with hands on is the minimum standard included.

 

[sri]

If these cars are going to come with a range of 400 miles and a charging speeds of 400kW, what will set Lucid apart? We know that the $50K variant will be quite basic in terms of standard features that Mercedes and BMW include as standard at entry level. Lucid also lacks well established service networks and doesn’t have a good track record at launching new models quickly, with months-long supply chain delays, and so on.

IF their claims are true at that price point they're promoting, Lucid will undoubtedly face significant challenges. I thought the Germans were dead in the EV race but seems they’re starting to fight back.

This is the thing most of us are worried about. With Lucid’s snail pace, competition can catchup and we lose the advantage of the technology.
Example: V2H Lucid came up early as an advantage and it is no where to see. But other caught up to it and released earlier than Lucid, now if BMW have this available from day of release and i highly doubt Lucid will release it earlier than them. Also i didn't see any where that Lucid mentioned about V2H on Gravity like they used to mention on Air in early days.

 

[Steveinarizona]

If these cars are going to come with a range of 400 miles and a charging speeds of 400kW, what will set Lucid apart? We know that the $50K variant will be quite basic in terms of standard features that Mercedes and BMW include as standard at entry level. Lucid also lacks well established service networks and doesn’t have a good track record at launching new models quickly, with months-long supply chain delays, and so on.

IF their claims are true at that price point they're promoting, Lucid will undoubtedly face significant challenges. I thought the Germans were dead in the EV race but seems they’re starting to fight back.

Remember that BMW was early in the EV race with the I3 and has also been early in the PHEV/hybrid race as well, especially with the I8. I would not count out the Germans but competition is good.

 

[Steveinarizona]

now if BMW have this available from day of release and i highly doubt Lucid will release it earlier than them.

I used to have a 2018 BMW 530e PHEV. They promised a forthcoming mat that one would place in the garage under where one parks and it would then charge the battery pack. It never showed up. Yes...Lucid has had problems with promising stuff that it hasn't delivered, at least not yet. But this problem is not unique to Lucid.

I think the Lucid problems get amplified because the rest of the car is so good so any aspect that isn't gets highlighted.