2.8.0 Software Update

[sri]

They didn't. They gave a specific date when the roll out would start. Some people got it. They've been telling us all along that when software is released, it's rolled out over a period of several weeks. If it's not there three weeks after the beginning of the roll out, then there's a reason to discuss it.

Just curious, did we know anyone received it?

 

[Haggy]

Just curious, did we know anyone received it?

I read online somewhere else, but it's a moot point. If someone says that they will be at your house between 7 and 9:30, you don't claim at 7:30 that they are late because you found out that they haven't left the house yet. You wait until 9:30.

And if they still aren't there, you recognize that when people make any statement about the future, they are talking about a reasonable expectation. If it turns out that an accident closed off the freeway, it doesn't make the statement a lie. It wasn't a lie when they made the statement.

If there's a reason to think that Lucid didn't have a reasonable expectation or that they didn't plan on releasing it on that day, that's a different story. But what could they possibly gain by doing that? I can't think of any up side for them to make the statement if they didn't expect it to happen. It's not as if people started lining up around the block to buy a car because of it.

 

[sri]

I read online somewhere else, but it's a moot point. If someone says that they will be at your house between 7 and 9:30, you don't claim at 7:30 that they are late because you found out that they haven't left the house yet. You wait until 9:30.

And if they still aren't there, you recognize that when people make any statement about the future, they are talking about a reasonable expectation. If it turns out that an accident closed off the freeway, it doesn't make the statement a lie. It wasn't a lie when they made the statement.

If there's a reason to think that Lucid didn't have a reasonable expectation or that they didn't plan on releasing it on that day, that's a different story. But what could they possibly gain by doing that? I can't think of any up side for them to make the statement if they didn't expect it to happen. It's not as if people started lining up around the block to buy a car because of it.

Just checking since you sounded someone got it.

At this point, I’m accustomed to Lucid’s timelines, and this is a future feature, not a bug fix. So, there’s no need to worry about when it will be released, as they’ve already got it in the pocket

 

[Buffalo Bob]

Larry calls Bill...

"Hey, Bill. I know I said I'd have your widget fixed by tonight, but I've run into a few problems, and had to order an unexpected part. Sorry, but I won't be getting it back to you until next week. I'll keep you posted."

Bill understands...

 

[pyle112]

Larry calls Bill...

"Hey, Bill. I know I said I'd have your widget fixed by tonight, but I've run into a few problems, and had to order an unexpected part. Sorry, but I won't be getting it back to you until next week. I'll keep you posted."

Bill understands...

Not if Larry has to talk to his lawyers, IR firm, media firm, key investors\insiders, bankers, and consultants under CDA to understand his liability. Only them can he reconsult with all this groups to send you an email.

 

[sri]

Not if Larry has to talk to his lawyers, IR firm, media firm, key investors\insiders, bankers, and consultants under CDA to understand his liability. Only them can he reconsult with all this groups to send you an email.

I suppose this has to happen before public announcement

Its time to stop beating dead horse

 

[pyle112]

Not if Larry has to talk to his lawyers, IR firm, media firm, key investors\insiders, bankers, and consultants under CDA to understand his liability. Only them can he reconsult with all this groups to send you an email.

And frankly Larry should just stop making promises- and only call Bill at most 4 times a year- and not say anything to Bill that sets his expectations too high.

 

[Buffalo Bob]

Bill is Nick. The call is X. No big deal.

 

[Bunnylebowski]

I’m gonna make a prediction. Owners will eventually get this update, and not only will they get it, but they’ll complain about something in the update. Anyone want to bet against that?

 

[hydbob]

Lots of assumptions floating around in this thread

 

[Sandvinsd]

Really really looking forward to this update!

I have been wanting to control the amperage on the charging for some time. If I run the Lucid home charger at 80 amps, it raises my pull from the grid to 20-22 kW, depending on what else is running at night. This causes my Powerwall backup battery to drain completely during the cheapest electricity rate since the max grid pull is 12kW if there is any capacity in the backup batteries. That leaves me without backup protection until the solar kicks in. Sometimes I will want the faster charge especially if I have a low SOC battery to be to 80% during the 12-6a super off-peak. In that case, I can be proactive by draining the battery in advance during on-peak TOU. That is what I do now, just need to plan ahead for charges. But for routine overnight charging, If I can lower the amperage, I will not have to worry about the powerwall discharge. That means I can just plug it more frequently for shorter length charges than I currently do.

And the true hands free driving will be great for longer trips! Can’t wait!

 

[thinkinglucidly]

I read online somewhere else, but it's a moot point. If someone says that they will be at your house between 7 and 9:30, you don't claim at 7:30 that they are late because you found out that they haven't left the house yet. You wait until 9:30.

And if they still aren't there, you recognize that when people make any statement about the future, they are talking about a reasonable expectation. If it turns out that an accident closed off the freeway, it doesn't make the statement a lie. It wasn't a lie when they made the statement.

If there's a reason to think that Lucid didn't have a reasonable expectation or that they didn't plan on releasing it on that day, that's a different story. But what could they possibly gain by doing that? I can't think of any up side for them to make the statement if they didn't expect it to happen. It's not as if people started lining up around the block to buy a car because of it.

this is not a good analogy. Still a new guy, but if you say you're releasing software on the 30th, then don't, you failed the first basic customer service test. Which we would (mostly) all forgive if you updated everyone about a delay.

saying nothing is bad form and doesn't inspire confidence. remember, THEY picked the release day, THEY made the annoucement, we didn't. If there were issues or whatnot they should have made sure they were wired tight before they said anything. unless they were trying to pimp their earnings call and played us like fiddles. while I hope that's not the case it sure SEEMS like the case.

I like the car fine, but I'm not simping for them and creating scenarios for the company to explain their failure to deliver what they promised when they promised it.

 

[Taz K]

So I just finished re-reading one of my favorite novels of all time and there’s a quote I think may be applied for many occasions in life. Reading this thread gives this quote a fresh application.

"The point is, you see... that there is no point in driving yourself mad trying to stop yourself going mad. You might just as well give in and save your sanity for later".

And there’s the most important quote from this novel which is also it’s first rule: “Don’t panic.”

Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker’ Guide to the Galaxy

 

[Dog poop]

unless they were trying to pimp their earnings call

Sounds like Lucid’s following the Elon playbook. Say something awesome is coming out in an earnings call and not do it… Elon is the worlds richest guy and it worked for him so…

 

[sri]

Sounds like Lucid’s following the Elon playbook. Say something awesome is coming out in an earnings call and not do it… Elon is the worlds richest guy and it worked for him so…

Not yet but inching little closer

 

[coma24]

Customer care advised me that the release has been delayed, they don't have a time estimate.

 

[joec]

Sounds like Lucid’s following the Elon playbook. Say something awesome is coming out in an earnings call and not do it… Elon is the worlds richest guy and it worked for him so…

Uhh. Saying a software update is coming and missing it by a few days vs promising your cars won’t even have steering wheels in six months and still not delivering L3 4 years later? Not exactly apples to apples.

 

[joec]

Customer care advised me that the release has been delayed, they don't have a time estimate.

A good time to remind folks to take everything customer care says with a grain of salt.

This could be true. But given the history of wild claims from CC, it’s actually more likely to be false.