2.8.0 Software Update

People may start to see some traction today. At least on iOS the app, 2.7.0 didn't go live until around 11pm PDT yesterday and its needed to start a supercharger session. Maybe Lucid was waiting or needed to wait for it to go online before starting the roll out to vehicles. Release notes also say "beginning July 31st"

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People may start to see some traction today. At least on iOS the app, 2.7.0 didn't go live until around 11pm PDT yesterday and its needed to start a supercharger session. Maybe Lucid was waiting or needed to wait for it to go online before starting the roll out to vehicles. Release notes also say "beginning July 31st"
Thank you, my original recollection was Jul 31 for the release, then I saw the release notes post yesterday, making me think it'd started and I was just misremembering the date.
 
Any of forum member got 2.8.0 yet?
Seems not. I’d much rather they delay it if necessary to make sure it is perfect before releasing it. I think they made a mistake by giving a specific date because that will just lead to all sorts of complaining.
 
Seems not. I’d much rather they delay it if necessary to make sure it is perfect before releasing it. I think they made a mistake by giving a specific date because that will just lead to all sorts of complaining.
Yes, i agree :)
They might have refrained from a date, this un unnecessarily adds to there missed windows :(
 
Seems not. I’d much rather they delay it if necessary to make sure it is perfect before releasing it. I think they made a mistake by giving a specific date because that will just lead to all sorts of complaining.
I think it's fairly clear from the timing of the Tesla and hands free announcement that they wanted to hit this as a quarterly goal. The 'credit' is earned by virtue of the announcement, in the eys of the stock market, at least. The fact that the rollout process has inherent delays is not a nuance that the market cares or knows about. Passionate owners in this forum, though, who are eager to get this into their vehicles are all too aware of it. I think this one is more important than Android Auto tbh.
 
Nothing like a deadline to get your employees focused on a task.
Don't assume that the reason it took this long was because the software wasn't ready. There's a non-zero chance that the only hold-up for this was awaiting regulatory approval to release the hands free capability. What'll be interesting is if there are any substantial upgrades to the logic of Drive Assist, or whether they have simply remove the 'place hands on the wheel' reminder logic...that will be telling. If there's no change in the underlying performance of the system, then it's safe to assume that the delay was regulatory in nature rather than them adding features to get the system to a point where it would be permitted.
 
Don't assume that the reason it took this long was because the software wasn't ready. There's a non-zero chance that the only hold-up for this was awaiting regulatory approval to release the hands free capability. What'll be interesting is if there are any substantial upgrades to the logic of Drive Assist, or whether they have simply remove the 'place hands on the wheel' reminder logic...that will be telling. If there's no change in the underlying performance of the system, then it's safe to assume that the delay was regulatory in nature rather than them adding features to get the system to a point where it would be permitted.
would also think that a fast small update is indicative of removing the reminder logic, which could be done just with an internal setting. if its a new model, i'd assume the update would be larger and more time consuming? we will know soon enough!
 
There's a non-zero chance that the only hold-up for this was awaiting regulatory approval to release the hands free capability
A car company does not regulatory approval to move from hands-on Level 2 ADAS to hands-off Level 2 ADAS. As long as it remains within the scope of Level 2 autonomy standards, automakers self-certify. Why do you think Tesla has gotten away pushing the limits for so long....
 
would also think that a fast small update is indicative of removing the reminder logic, which could be done just with an internal setting. if its a new model, i'd assume the update would be larger and more time consuming? we will know soon enough!
Ahh yes, I made a similar point a couple of weeks ago and someone had the same suggestion, looking at the update time. It's a reasonable guess to say that if the update is TINY, then it's indicative of a small change to that subsystem. If the update is large....unfortunately that wouldn't be conclusive, but it increases the possibility that there was more work being done beyond just removing warnings.

@marqie can you shed any light with a comment from the software team as to whether there were any tweaks to the DA logic, beyond simply removing the 'place hands on the wheel' logic? There are quite a few people who are reporting instability with DA since moving to 2.7.x (I'm not in the camp, it's been near flawless in the '22 GT). It might improve their confidence/excitement to know if anything has been revisited in the underlying system beyond removing the warning.
 
A car company does not regulatory approval to move from hands-on Level 2 ADAS to hands-off Level 2 ADAS. As long as it remains within the scope of Level 2 autonomy standards, automakers self-certify. Why do you think Tesla has gotten away pushing the limits for so long....
I'm very glad you shared that, it's news to me. My thoughts were based on discussions that took place during the owners event on Long Island where a member of that team was speaking about the regulatory hurdles of hands off. Perhaps he was referring to higher levels, then, and I misunderstood.

If what you're saying is true, then the reasons for not allowing hands off were entirely internal to Lucid, which means they were either trying to complete enough testing internally prior to release, or they were completing functional changes.🍿🍿🍿
 
While I'm pleased to see that hands-free drive assist is coming, I still have zero plans to take my hands off the wheel. Losing the annoying reminder to torque the wheel will be welcomed tho.
 
I think this one is more important than Android Auto tbh.
only to the iOS users 🤣 AA has been excellent and made a big different. hands-free, while I am really looking forward to it, is only for highway and I think will be very similar to current drive assist (which if I take my hands off the wheel is how I think it will drive, less the safety check of driver's eyes on the road). I think it'll be great, don't get me wrong, but I think people are so hyped up thinking it will do magic things that some will be 'disappointed' when they get it even if only due to their own expectations. otoh, I use AA every single drive and it delivers meaningful improvement (as will hands-free, just not every drive).
 
Sorry to be stupid about this but, can someone explain the application of the feature that allows geofencing a charging level?
Thanks
 
Sorry to be stupid about this but, can someone explain the application of the feature that allows geofencing a charging level?
Thanks
Geofencing is simply recognizing your location as a condition of whether is feature is enabled or not.

For geofenced charging, you might decide for myriad reasons that are not relevant to the discussion, you do NOT want/need to pull 17-18kwh from your charger at HOME because you're generally in no rush, however, if you are hitting a level 2 charger on the street while running errands and getting lunch, you want it to go as fast as possible.

In short, if you desire the ability to have different maximum charging rates (for L2 only, they're not doing this for L3 as they don't want people clogging up limited L3 chargers) based on WHERE you are, that's what geofenced charging rate selection is for.
 
Sorry to be stupid about this but, can someone explain the application of the feature that allows geofencing a charging level?
Thanks
you have to have a limit at home but then use L2 charging on the road (work, etc) and forget to increase the limit and get annoyed. etc. so this way the car can help and make things easier. I think this had come up in this forum somewhere.
 
I'm very glad you shared that, it's news to me. My thoughts were based on discussions that took place during the owners event on Long Island where a member of that team was speaking about the regulatory hurdles of hands off. Perhaps he was referring to higher levels, then, and I misunderstood.

If what you're saying is true, then the reasons for not allowing hands off were entirely internal to Lucid, which means they were either trying to complete enough testing internally prior to release, or they were completing functional changes.🍿🍿🍿
or, they wanted a certain amount of time in use with production cars with the new DA (or miles, or variety of roads) before releasing the hands-free aspect. I think it was pretty wise. I'm suspecting they can see how well it's performing or some logs the cars collect while using it (I hope they can). Good job by Lucid imo.
 
While I'm pleased to see that hands-free drive assist is coming, I still have zero plans to take my hands off the wheel. Losing the annoying reminder to torque the wheel will be welcomed tho.
I read that and initially thought, "what is the point?" but quickly realized a) that is your choice, and b) you're absolutely right. Just keeping your hand there at the moment is NOT enough to stop the warning, so this change will absolutely be useful for those who elect not to keep their hands in their lap.

In my case, my seating position is relatively far back and it's going to be considerably more comfortable on long drives (daughter going to college 4 hrs away in a few weeks from now) to have my hands resting on my lap, knowing I can get a hand on the wheel in very short order should it become necessary. It's also likely that I will get better at spotting when that MIGHT become necessary over time and stage my hands on the wheel in any case (uncomfortable overtakes around corners with a higher speed entry, for example, where it is bad form to even get close to your lane boundary, let alone crossing it).
 
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