NACS Charging at Tesla SCs

johnse · Saturday at 12:53 PM

Ron_Burgundy said:
FWIW. Tesla SCs are great, but the last two I went to with my Gravity, I got throttled to about 160kw. Not sure why, but it said power limited by station.

It might be that the NACS connector on the station is getting old. One of the design points that the committee used in choosing CCS over the Tesla connector was 10,000 insertion lifetime for CCS vs 2,500 for Tesla. Tesla felt that they could simply replace connectors more often.

Pulling at close to the limit of the station for long periods might uncover a connector in need of replacement that a Tesla charging curve might not hit.

Or it could be something else

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bryway · Saturday at 4:58 PM

mutant9 said:
I am a total noobie with charging but wanted to give my experience as I wait to get home l2 charger installed. I tried to use the vehicle Nav to to go to a super charger in Chicago. Turned out it was a v2 non compatable. Connected to the car when I plugged it in then it said stopped charging. Called support they said to use the mobile app to find compatible super chargers. Compatable ones will be in blue noncompatable will show in gray. I wish they would get this corrected in the vehicle Nav.

Instead I used a EA 350kw charger that was near by. Plug and charged worked well and the throuput was very high.

Tried a Tesla super charger in Oakbrook that was blue in the mobile app and it also worked perfectly. Though I only saw a speed of 175kwh.

EA 350 is way faster so I will be using that when they are available.

My delivery specialist said they are slowing down speeds from tesla super chargers on the gravity until they get more data just to ensure it works perfectly. Not sure if that is legit but that is what I was told. Based on the speeds I saw at the charger it may be accurate.

Couldn’t agree more. Throughput at 350 kw EA stations is awesome! Have prioritized EA for road trips now. Tesla will always be a fallback for me going forward.

Alanp · Saturday at 10:05 PM

bryway said:
Couldn’t agree more. Throughput at 350 kw EA stations is awesome! Have prioritized EA for road trips now. Tesla will always be a fallback for me going forward.

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Do you need an adapter to use EA with the Gravity? And if so, was it provided by Lucid with the car?

Ron_Burgundy · Saturday at 10:17 PM

Alanp said:
Do you need an adapter to use EA with the Gravity? And if so, was it provided by Lucid with the car?

Yes you need an adapter when using EA and yes, it’s provided with Gravity GGT and GDE.

iThinkEV · 2025-08-31T12:18:55-0500

this. I paid for the membership month when I need it for roadtripping. Then get get the same rate as Tesla owners. Saves a bit when doing long roadtrips, then I just cancel after I'm done. reactive when I need it again.

Just use Tesla app to initiate the charge, no biggie. But if Plug & Charge is coming. That would be extra awesome.

-iThinkEV-

hmp10 said:
You get a significant fee reduction (around 25-30%, depending on location) if you have a $11.99 monthly subscription for Tesla Supercharging. However, you can't yet use it with plug-and-charge, although Lucid says they are working on that. All you have to do is initiate the charging session through the Tesla app, though, and it's actually pretty quick and easy.

It doesn't take much road tripping for the subscription to pay for itself. Frankly, though, I'd pay double the rate to use a Tesla SC over an EA charger, simply because I want to be able to know I'll actually be able to charge when I arrive at the station.

indigo6 · 2025-08-31T17:57:11-0500

Did my first test session to make sure plug and charge works for me on Tesla SCs. Handshake time was really fast and power ramped up to 211 kW very quickly at about 50 % SoC. I didn’t need to charge so I ended the session after 2 minutes. 2.9 kWh delivered in 2 minutes!

FirstLucidFL · 2025-09-01T06:54:01-0500

Anyone else having public charging issues? Was at a ChargePoint 125kwh charger and I couldn’t get even close to that with the adapter. Car said charging power was limited by station. Now at a 325k Tesla SC and only getting 31k and again, charging power limited at station.

Ron_Burgundy · 2025-09-01T08:34:00-0500

FirstLucidFL said:
Anyone else having public charging issues? Was at a ChargePoint 125kwh charger and I couldn’t get even close to that with the adapter. Car said charging power was limited by station. Now at a 325k Tesla SC and only getting 31k and again, charging power limited at station.

Not that bad. As Tesla SC, I shot up and then got limited to 150. No limiting at the BP Pulse or EA. I don’t use charge point.

jered · 2025-09-01T09:05:53-0500

FirstLucidFL said:
Anyone else having public charging issues? Was at a ChargePoint 125kwh charger and I couldn’t get even close to that with the adapter. Car said charging power was limited by station. Now at a 325k Tesla SC and only getting 31k and again, charging power limited at station.

I see this maybe a third of the time, and moving to a different post typically resolves it. More common at non-Tesla SC, but I definitely see it as SC's (and did with my Model X too). I appreciate that the Lucid does indicate if the charge limit is being requested by the EVSE or EV.

I wonder if the lack of a latching mechanism on the Gravity for the charge plug is contributory; it's possible that a poor connection could cause limiting by the EVSE.

DeaneG · 2025-09-01T09:37:52-0500

jered said:
...I wonder if the lack of a latching mechanism on the Gravity for the charge plug is contributory; it's possible that a poor connection could cause limiting by the EVSE.

Is this correct? NACS specifies a latching mechanism, and all DCFC must have it for safety.

Ron_Burgundy · 2025-09-01T10:06:12-0500

DeaneG said:
Is this correct? NACS specifies a latching mechanism, and all DCFC must have it for safety.

I believe the way mine works is if car is locked, cable is locked into place…will have to double check.

jered · 2025-09-01T10:55:08-0500

DeaneG said:
Is this correct? NACS specifies a latching mechanism, and all DCFC must have it for safety.

Hmm, maybe mine is just very quiet? I'll have to try pulling the cable at home (rather than a DCFC)

indigo6 · 2025-09-01T11:00:40-0500

Ron_Burgundy said:
I believe the way mine works is if car is locked, cable is locked into place…will have to double check.

This is how mine is. This is different from Tesla that locks while plugged in regardless of car lock status. I think Lucid should do it that way as well. Then the latch can release when you push the button on the connector.

Ron_Burgundy · 2025-09-01T11:31:46-0500

indigo6 said:
This is how mine is. This is different from Tesla that locks while plugged in regardless of car lock status. I think Lucid should do it that way as well. Then the latch can release when you push the button on the connector.

Not sure how/what Tesla uses for their proprietary cables to communicate with car and open charging latches and unlock charge port, but I don’t think that is part of NACS.

jered · 2025-09-01T14:13:01-0500

Ron_Burgundy said:
Not sure how/what Tesla uses for their proprietary cables to communicate with car and open charging latches and unlock charge port, but I don’t think that is part of NACS.

I believe it is an RF signal, and you are correct that it is not part of NACS.

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