Anyone up for auto insurance rate comparisons?

I tried to get a quote to insure the gravity, from MapFre (Massachusetts), our current insurer.

Their response was that they don’t insure Lucids. I didn’t realize that was a choice that insurance companies had (they could just suggest a shockingly high rate, instead of declining to insure).

“Unfortunately, Lucid Motors is on our Ineligible Vehicle from Underwriting”
 
I got the same response from The Hartford when I purchased the Touring. Seems Progressive is one of the few here in Las Vegas but they just jumped my rates by over 30%.
 
Has this always been the case with Lucid, or have these carriers started dropping Lucid recently? This is concerning!
 
Has this always been the case with Lucid, or have these carriers started dropping Lucid recently? This is concerning!
For some carriers it’s always been the case. Some carriers have MSRP limits, period. There’s a reason classic car insurers like Hagerty exist too, and HNW insurers.

So no, it’s not new.
 
Have been thinking of getting away from State Farm for 2 years becuse of issues around a small not-at-fault claim for which they paid just a fraction. Was all set to go with Cincinnati and at the last minute they decided no more Lucids at this time. Travelers also doesnt like Lucids. Now working with Chubb at about 1.6x State Farm rate and that is likely where I will end up. It’s messy for sure.
I have Travelers on my Lucid (also in Scottsdale). I wonder if at renewal they'll not want me anymore. I am my own agent and haven't heard that Travelers avoids Lucids (yet), but certainly it is possible they're going that route.
 
I have Travelers on my Lucid (also in Scottsdale). I wonder if at renewal they'll not want me anymore. I am my own agent and haven't heard that Travelers avoids Lucids (yet), but certainly it is possible they're going that route.
When I got my Lucid in January 2024 Travelers would not insure it so I went with Hagerty short term. After shopping around, I switched all of my insurance policies (home, umbrella, auto) to State Farm.
 
When I got my Lucid in January 2024 Travelers would not insure it so I went with Hagerty short term. After shopping around, I switched all of my insurance policies (home, umbrella, auto) to State Farm.
That's so weird. I switched to Travelers (from Acuity) in November 2024 and it was no problem.
 
I have Travelers on my Lucid (also in Scottsdale). I wonder if at renewal they'll not want me anymore. I am my own agent and haven't heard that Travelers avoids Lucids (yet), but certainly it is possible they're going that route.
I sense that for some companies, they may open and close enrollment. I had Cincinnati locked in and at the last minute they said ‘not at this time’. Travelers may open and close enrollment - dont know. I had a broker working on it and she found Progressive and Chubb as both definite. Eventually went with Chubb even though their cost is much higher than SF - a company I rode with for 45 yrs. They became so difficult to deal with - a roadside service claim ($130) took 2 months with several false starts. Given we live in a fire prone area, decided I would pay to have reliable coverage. I like their ‘agreed value’ approach. Ridiculously expensive for total coverage of home and auto but the Lucid was actually less than SF.
 
I sense that for some companies, they may open and close enrollment. I had Cincinnati locked in and at the last minute they said ‘not at this time’. Travelers may open and close enrollment - dont know. I had a broker working on it and she found Progressive and Chubb as both definite. Eventually went with Chubb even though their cost is much higher than SF - a company I rode with for 45 yrs. They became so difficult to deal with - a roadside service claim ($130) took 2 months with several false starts. Given we live in a fire prone area, decided I would pay to have reliable coverage. I like their ‘agreed value’ approach. Ridiculously expensive for total coverage of home and auto but the Lucid was actually less than SF.
Yup, that's a HNW insurer for you. Cincinnatti, Chubb, PURE, Nationwide Private Client, AIG are the big HNW insurers.

You get what you pay for, and in this case, what you pay for is zero hassle in a claim, never second guessing any labor estimates, and generally much higher/better coverage (agreed value, GAP, HO5 homeowners insurance vs the classic HO3, etc.).

Whether it's worth it is best left as an exercise to the reader, as everyone is different.
 
I’m jealous of all of you. I’m in Phoenix, AZ. Husband and I are both in our 50s. No accidents or claims in over 5 years. $1,000 deductible. H.O. insurance with same company (Travelers). $4,335 per year for just the lucid (one car household). Last year most companies wouldn’t even give us a price due to “wildfire hazard” which is insane since we live in Phoenix proper.
 

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Not a surprise here in Las Vegas that rates have skyrocketed. I see people running red lights all the time, people driving at night with lights turned off. People texting while driving - the tires running on the lane bumps is a "dead" giveaway. When the light turns green, I'm rarely the first one into the intersection, even with all the bells and whistles of the Lucid.
 
Curious to see if my situation is typical. I'm sharing a lot of detail (maybe too much?), but history and coverage differences can have a huge impact.

2023 Lucid Air Pure AWD - MSRP of $96.6k, but paid $75.2k + tax & fees. (Was told that my insurer (Acuity) insisted on insuring at MSRP instead of the price paid, whatever that means. My guess is the 'if totaled' value would be about half the MSRP. )

Two drivers, and insuring two cars. I'm 75 and wife is 76. Both of us have flawless driving records with no 'at fault' accidents in our lives. (I got rear ended about 9 years ago.) Solid financial scores. Car is based in our Tempe, AZ residence. (My rates had a significant uptick when we moved from North Scottsdale to Tempe, despite a huge reduction to our annual mileage. I was told due to population density, proximity to the university, and local accident/theft rates, although the car is parked in a very secure location.)

Lucid's annual premium due this week - $2,112. It was $1,692 when the car was first insured in 12/23. (Our other Tempe car (2002 Lexus SC430) is $847/year. Same coverage.) Been with the carrier since 2020, so some loyalty discounts are in place.

Here's the coverage...

Liability - $500k per person/$500k per occurrence
Uninsured motorists - $500k each person/$500k each accident
Underinsured motorists - $500k each person/$500k each accident (I came across a case on https://cathay-pacific-airline.pissedconsumer.com/customer-service.html that reminded me how important solid coverage is. In each of the above, the $500k is required by my personal liability umbrella.)
Comprehensive deductible - $250 (No specific glass coverage. To be handled here.)
Collision deductible - $2,500

Agent looked at alternative carriers, and we explored coverage changes, but this came out as optimal. Reasonable? Doesn't seem so to me.
ChatGPT said: Yes, your situation is fairly typical given the specifics. Insuring at MSRP inflates the vehicle’s value for coverage, which raises premiums, especially for a high-end EV like the Lucid. Tempe’s higher risk profile due to traffic density, university proximity, and theft or accident rates also plays a major role. Your high liability limits (required by your umbrella policy) and relatively low comprehensive deductible add to the cost, even though the $2,500 collision deductible helps reduce it slightly. The Lucid’s $2,112 annual premium isn’t unreasonable considering those factors, especially when compared to your older Lexus at $847 per year. While the increase from $1,692 to $2,112 is steep, it reflects current market trends, repair costs for EVs, and regional risk. Since your agent explored alternatives and found no better deal, this rate seems high but is within the normal range for your profile and coverage.
 
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