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Appreciate the update. While I HOPE you get it in June, I don’t know how they’d get that done.

Can you give us a sense of your VIN number/range?

I was told the opposite by SA re: finance. She said they’re making the car no matter what and I don’t need to decide until delivery.

If they’re literally producing one by one based on a real buyer and their finance terms this would take years. A sale is a sale for Lucid, as noted earlier. So I think that’s an absurd excuse.
 
BS8899 said:
Frankly I am surprised by Lucid's struggle with HUD. First, HUD is not a new tecnology. I had it on my 2017 Lexus. It is niffty. I liked it, but I think its utility is over-stated. Today, many cars offer HUD (https://www.cars.com/articles/which-cars-have-head-up-displays-434824/). Therea re multiple suppliers of HUD modules. Perhaps Lucid had a late discovery with oroblems with their supplier and could not switch to another supplier. Eveb if that's the case, I am surprised that Lucid could not ship Gravity without HUD and have HUD installed later at no cost to the early Gravity owners. Delaying Gravity ramp because of HUD seems like a very poor supply chain managment and qualification fiasco!
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Lucid uses a new style patented display that allows for a wider displayed image using regular width projection screen:

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BS8899 said:
It is good if it is "only a supply chain issue and not the technology". If true, this is negligence onLucid's part. Supply chain management and aduits are Lucid's responsibilities. Unless there was a n unforseen natural disaster (e.g., an earthquake that wiped out the HUD factory), such last minute ddelays that limit production ramp is on Lucid!
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So, you could have predicted the tariff situation?
 
Kzooguy said:
Just got a call from my SA. I have been assigned a VIN. He claims that the next major update is on June 9th (in relation to my order and production status). He *Thinks* we should have delivery by end of June but also went on to say that could get into first week of July, depending on shipping and inspection at West Palm Beach, FL upon arrival prior to delivery. He said that I need to decide ASAP whether I want to lease/finance/pay cash because Lucid will not complete production until the applicant is approved. We agreed to wait till Tuesday because he said there *might* be a new announcement for lease terms on June 1st, but being a Sunday might be June 2nd. I have a DE Black/20" wheels/Tahoe interior ordered on March 7th. I am a previous Air DE owner FWIW.
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Congratulation on the VIN assignment!

The part about Lucid not completing production until method of payment is determined and approved, if necessary doesn't sound right.
Stop production because of one customer? Others are waiting, as everyone on this forum knows.

I asked my SA how the "method of payment" factors into the production-to-delivery phase of the overall process.
She said method of payment isn't discussed with a customer until a VIN is assigned (your current status). Once a VIN is assigned, it can be a matter of weeks before the car is ready for delivery, so the customer must decide on method of payment.

I asked what would happen if a customer did not like the lease terms. The SA works with the customer to seek more favorable terms (e.g. different lease term, different down payment amount, different mileage limit). The SA is not able to change money factor or residual value. If customer declines the lease terms or in the case of financing, is unable to secure it, the car is offered to the next customer with the same configuration, based on order date.
 
Regarding the financing decision- to elaborate and maybe clarify- he did not imply that I needed to make a decision on Monday/Tuesday, but rather that now that the car is under production we need to start that process and get it going. I am not sure and I did not bother to ask him to elaborate on his comment about "Lucid would not complete the production till they know the financing is secured". I am sure that if this was true, it would only apply to my vehicle and would not affect any other customers or result in any type of line stoppage. But knowing how little these SA's know, and having gone through this for my Air DE, I know that until I physically receive the car, everything is to be taken with a (very large) grain of salt.
 
They are apparently intentionally delaying already built cars to customers, even the ones they already promised delivery dates. One logical guess would be that they discovered a safety related hardware issue that they don’t know how to fix yet. If this is true though, you would think they would recall the few that are already delivered and people would share the info here? Nothing makes sense!
 
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Lucid uses a new style patented display that allows for a wider displayed image using regular width projection screen:

borski

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That's all great! But any technical and supplier problems should have been forseen and addressed during the development and qualification cycle, not during the ramp and delivery cycle. Lucid is saying/implying the HUD supplier is the limiting factor. Is it the stability of the technology or design? Is it material/component availability limited? Is it something unaticipated? What is the resolution timeline? If I already ordered my Gravity with HUD, can Lucid deliver it first without the HUD and later install HUD at Lucid's expense?

Seems like stopping the Gravity ramp in the AZ production line is the wrong answer.


To the point @GEWC made RE: traffif, that's a total red-herring in the current discussion.
[1] if you voted for the current administration last November, you should have fully anticipated traffifs. It has been their agenda for decades!
[2] what does traffif have to do with Gravities that have been in the productionpipeline for months?
[3] if it was traffif, shouldn't Lucid be forthcoming in saying so and tell us they will raise the price accordingly to offset the traffifs?

Simply stalling on production ramp and not shipping because of traffif is insanity!
 
Kzooguy said:
But knowing how little these SA's know, and having gone through this for my Air DE, I know that until I physically receive the car, everything is to be taken with a (very large) grain of salt.
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So true.
Nothing against the SAs.
I feel for them in some ways.
And yet, it's their job.

As the public face of Lucid they are in a tough position. Having to respond to questions about which they sometimes have limited info about. I like that my SA makes it clear when she isn't sure about something or is just sharing her opinion versus when she has facts.

Like any other employee, it's their livelihood. No commission until delivery is completed.
 
BS8899 said:
That's all great! But any technical and supplier problems should have been forseen and addressed during the development and qualification cycle, not during the ramp and delivery cycle. Lucid is saying/implying the HUD supplier is the limiting factor. Is it the stability of the technology or design? Is it material/component availability limited? Is it something unaticipated? What is the resolution timeline? If I already ordered my Gravity with HUD, can Lucid deliver it first without the HUD and later install HUD at Lucid's expense?

Seems like stopping the Gravity ramp in the AZ production line is the wrong answer.


To the point @GEWC made RE: traffif, that's a total red-herring in the current discussion.
[1] if you voted for the current administration last November, you should have fully anticipated traffifs. It has been their agenda for decades!
[2] what does traffif have to do with Gravities that have been in the productionpipeline for months?
[3] if it was traffif, shouldn't Lucid be forthcoming in saying so and tell us they will raise the price accordingly to offset the traffifs?

Simply stalling on production ramp and not shipping because of traffif is insanity!
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Apologies for my misspelling on "Tariff"! 😥
 
Ok, so I too finally changed to in production and have a VIN! Black Tahoe DE. Sounds like they are starting to move the wheels a bit as another Black DE just posted VIN status too. We'll see how it progresses from here but I'm just happy to see something happening.
 
9point81 said:
Ok, so I too finally changed to in production and have a VIN! Black Tahoe DE. Sounds like they are starting to move the wheels a bit as another Black DE just posted VIN status too. We'll see how it progresses from here but I'm just happy to see something happening.
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My black tahoe DE with 22/23s has had a VIN for about 2 weeks now...though I still have no confirmed delivery timeframe as of my last chat with my sales guy. The latest estimate I have is "mid June".
 
DrZorro said:
My black tahoe DE with 22/23s has had a VIN for about 2 weeks now...though I still have no confirmed delivery timeframe as of my last chat with my sales guy. The latest estimate I have is "mid June".
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At this point I'm just taking what I can get. I won't expect it before July/August, so anything earlier is just icing.
 
Would anyone who got a VIN be willing to post the range of their last six digits (probably last three at this point)? Or even <100, etc? It would give some insight into where Lucid really is with production. Remember, a VIN isn’t some private number. Anyone who sees your car can look at your VIN in the windshield.
 
And I thought the 10 deliveries in Dec 2024 was the beginning of a huge ramp…..how foolish could I be, considering how they messed up the Air when it was first introduced.

It’s bad enough we have an anti EV establishment running the country, these “ own goals “ should not happen! As much as I know how difficult it is to build a new car, unless Lucid has perfection in execution, they will struggle getting traction. I hope they learn from the Air and Gravity launch and midsize goes relatively hassle free.
 
BS8899 said:
That's all great! But any technical and supplier problems should have been forseen and addressed during the development and qualification cycle, not during the ramp and delivery cycle. Lucid is saying/implying the HUD supplier is the limiting factor. Is it the stability of the technology or design? Is it material/component availability limited? Is it something unaticipated? What is the resolution timeline? If I already ordered my Gravity with HUD, can Lucid deliver it first without the HUD and later install HUD at Lucid's expense?

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Lucid doesn't necessarily make it easy to find their communication, as you have to monitor Twitter/Facebook/Reddit or this forum, but they've answered some of your questions. It's not feasible to deliver a Gravity without HUD, and then install it later. So either delay delivery because you're waiting for HUD availability, or order a model without that option. The timeframe for the HUD becoming available on the GGT is "the fall". Those placing orders for a GGT without the HUD thus have some chance of receiving their vehicle earlier, depending upon how production ramps up through the summer. I believe Lucid has said that they're going to prioritize production of "fully loaded" GGTs, so it's hard to say how selecting something like a 5 seat model without HUD might schedule into production versus a 7 seat with HUD.
 
BS8899 said:
That's all great! But any technical and supplier problems should have been forseen and addressed during the development and qualification cycle, not during the ramp and delivery cycle. Lucid is saying/implying the HUD supplier is the limiting factor. Is it the stability of the technology or design? Is it material/component availability limited? Is it something unaticipated? What is the resolution timeline? If I already ordered my Gravity with HUD, can Lucid deliver it first without the HUD and later install HUD at Lucid's expense?

Seems like stopping the Gravity ramp in the AZ production line is the wrong answer.


To the point @GEWC made RE: traffif, that's a total red-herring in the current discussion.
[1] if you voted for the current administration last November, you should have fully anticipated traffifs. It has been their agenda for decades!
[2] what does traffif have to do with Gravities that have been in the productionpipeline for months?
[3] if it was traffif, shouldn't Lucid be forthcoming in saying so and tell us they will raise the price accordingly to offset the traffifs?

Simply stalling on production ramp and not shipping because of traffif is insanity!
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I know that there is only a very small number of people yelling incompetence or negligence at every issue Lucid encounters. I must say that I do find it annoying and I hope that you let us know the number of EVs that you have had a major role in designing, producing or handling the supply chain for. I suspect that there are some very well experienced forum members but I also doubt that they are the ones yelling negligence or incompetence.

With respect to the HUD, how do you know the HUD is the constraint rather than some related component? The HUD shows normal availability on the KSA site but shows fall availability on the US site. Is that a mistake in the sites or is that an indication that the HUD hardware itself may not be the problem. @nicktwork told us that the wiring harness was different with HUD and that is the reason dynamic ambient lighting is not available without the HUD. I don't know if the wiring harnesses are different between US and KSA but it would not surprise me given the slightly different regulations.

I do wish that Lucid could ramp Gravity faster and I agree the slow ramp is a poor look. Seriously, there is no negligence or incompetence going on here.
 
Adnillien said:
I know that there is only a very small number of people yelling incompetence or negligence at every issue Lucid encounters. I must say that I do find it annoying and I hope that you let us know the number of EVs that you have had a major role in designing, producing or handling the supply chain for. I suspect that there are some very well experienced forum members but I also doubt that they are the ones yelling negligence or incompetence.

With respect to the HUD, how do you know the HUD is the constraint rather than some related component? The HUD shows normal availability on the KSA site but shows fall availability on the US site. Is that a mistake in the sites or is that an indication that the HUD hardware itself may not be the problem. @nicktwork told us that the wiring harness was different with HUD and that is the reason dynamic ambient lighting is not available without the HUD. I don't know if the wiring harnesses are different between US and KSA but it would not surprise me given the slightly different regulations.

I do wish that Lucid could ramp Gravity faster and I agree the slow ramp is a poor look. Seriously, there is no negligence or incompetence going on here.
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Thank you @Adnillien. This guy really has a lot of negative opinions on Lucid about everything they do,
as we’ve all seen all over this forum, and then repeats himself and doubles down when countered with fact based level headed non-accusatory alternative viewpoints. I wonder how he manages to walk around in this world minute to minute surrounded by all sorts of things that don’t go according to plan. It must be extremely aggravating for him surrounded by the constant incompetence, imperfection and deliberate attempts to screw everyone. It’s either that or he just can’t let go of being a troll, crapping on everyone else’s optimis and joy, which is even more obnoxious.
 
EdL-ATX said:
Got a call today that they've assigned a "pre-VIN" for my GDE, which (apparently) means securing all the parts and putting on the production schedule. Next update will be when they assign the actual VIN. We didn't have this "pre-VIN" notification step back in the early Air days but I'll take anything that sounds like progress.
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So that ^^^ was 4/30. Today (5/31) I also got the call from my SA that my black/tahoe/20/21 GDE has been assigned a VIN and is starting production. No speculative delivery date.

I actually appreciate that my SA hasn't made up any answers. He's very good at saying "we don't know yet", which is great!
 
9point81 said:
Ok, so I too finally changed to in production and have a VIN! Black Tahoe DE. Sounds like they are starting to move the wheels a bit as another Black DE just posted VIN status too. We'll see how it progresses from here but I'm just happy to see something happening.
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EdL-ATX said:
So that ^^^ was 4/30. Today (5/31) I also got the call from my SA that my black/tahoe/20/21 GDE has been assigned a VIN and is starting production. No speculative delivery date.

I actually appreciate that my SA hasn't made up any answers. He's very good at saying "we don't know yet", which is great!
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Apologies if this was already posted earlier, but what state are you both located @9point81 and @EdL-ATX
Ron_Burgundy said:
Would anyone who got a VIN be willing to post the range of their last six digits (probably last three at this point)? Or even <100, etc? It would give some insight into where Lucid really is with production. Remember, a VIN isn’t some private number. Anyone who sees your car can look at your VIN in the windshield.
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@Ron_Burgundy Here is the VIN I was given. 7UUG1DKJ2TA010052
 
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