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[Speculation] Early Gravity Production issues?

Kaycee1980

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Hey folks. Just wondering if we should expect similar production issues that the Air went through in its earlier years? It's a pretty expensive car to be riddled with problems as an early adopter.
 
Kaycee1980 said:
Hey folks. Just wondering if we should expect similar production issues that the Air went through in its earlier years? It's a pretty expensive car to be riddled with problems as an early adopter.
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How do you expect any of us to be able to answer this with anything other than pure conjecture?
 
Yes just like every other first gen product that has been produced by every company in the last century
 
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Not asking for a guarantee buddy, I'm just wondering if its on anyone else's mind.
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Any new product from any company is going to have issues. And, sadly, no one can predict what they will be. If they could be predicted Lucid would have corrected them before release, right? So, yes, there will be issues.
 
Yes, it likely will as with every Gen 1 version of anything.
 
Kaycee1980 said:
Hey folks. Just wondering if we should expect similar production issues that the Air went through in its earlier years? It's a pretty expensive car to be riddled with problems as an early adopter.
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I think it's going to be a mixed bag. Some things Lucid learned from Air production will probably not repeat. Examples might be the adhesive failures in early Air trim pieces on the trunk and frunk lids, the loss of chrome paint on the night-lit Lucid logo on the leading edge of the frunk lid, the warpage of the trunk lid due to errors in curing the composite material, the issues with the key fob hardware (although there have been a few reports of fob issues with early Gravities), imprecise detents on the A/C toggle switches, rotary switch failures on the steering wheel, etc. In fact, I would say it would be almost inexcusable for these issues to repeat in any significant numbers with the Gravity.

However, the Gravity has virtually zero parts in common with the Air, so I agree with other posters that there will certainly be some new problem areas. But, as @hydbob pointed out, this is the case with new models from virtually any carmaker. I have always been an early adopter of cars, and I have lived through such issues with Mercedes, Jaguar, Corvette, Audi, and even Honda. And compared to the issues I had with a new-generation Mercedes SL55 AMG and a new-generation Corvette, the Air was a cakewalk.

I bought one of the early Air Dreams (number 154). I'm buying two of the Gravity Dreams. I certainly think about what early-production woes I might live through again (to the point of annoying some others on this forum), but Lucids are so far ahead of any other EV on the market in so many important aspects -- range, efficiency, space engineering, power, handling dynamics -- that I have no hesitation about plowing right into another round with them.
 
Kaycee1980 said:
Hey folks. Just wondering if we should expect similar production issues that the Air went through in its earlier years? It's a pretty expensive car to be riddled with problems as an early adopter.
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No.

But also, yes.

At the same time though, no.

Hope that helps.
 
Blue Lectroid said:
Any new product from any company is going to have issues. And, sadly, no one can predict what they will be. If they could be predicted Lucid would have corrected them before release, right? So, yes, there will be issues.
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Kaycee1980 said:
Hey folks. Just wondering if we should expect similar production issues that the Air went through in its earlier years? It's a pretty expensive car to be riddled with problems as an early adopter.
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Fewer than Air, but expect issues.

No I would not expect significant issues with any new production car. When I got my BMW 1M, Porsche GT4 and GT3 Touring all were free of “bugs”. Asking why is revealing: all were derivatives of existing platforms with limited modifications put out by mature organizations practiced at releasing cars exactly like that. The Air, in contrast, was an all-new platform put out by an all-new organization. Lots of bugs.

The Gravity is a virtually all new platform put out by an organization that now has some practice. It will be better than the Air but it will have issues is my conclusion.
 
I’m coming into this fully expecting there to be issues. It’s inevitable with any new tech or vehicle. My last two cars were 1st gen and altho there were early issues, they were taken care of very well. Same with early tech. It is the way of development cycle. Nothing will be perfect, but the question is how they handle and improve the product, which from what I’ve seen being new to Lucid, I fully expect them to keep growing and improving their cars and take care of us who have issues. It is fair for you to wonder, but of course no definitive answers here. Just a bunch of folks going in eyes open but optimistic.
 
I expect there will be problems. I live near a service center, in maybe the 3rd or 4th major market for EVs, so I what will really matter is the quality of errata and recall service. I would not buy a first year small production vehicle if I were in the Midwest.

Like, right now I'm not confident that the first deliveries are going to have a working HUD, from reviews so far. But things you can fix OTA are way easier than things that require a physical repair.
 
Rather than wondering if there will be issues (there will be), I think it's better to ask yourself whether you believe Lucid will be good about handling them. I've never owned a Lucid, but the people here who bought an early Air seem to be pretty satisfied with how Lucid treated them through the teething pains. You see plenty of complaints about various things, but overall people seem happy.

If you just don't want to deal with the early issues, the only sane response is to not buy a Gravity from the first year of production. As others have noted, that applies to every car from every manufacturer.

My belief is that Lucid will have learned from their experience with the Air, and the Gravity will be better. But not trouble free. The company explicitly said that the Gravity ramp will be very slow specifically because they want to deliver a higher quality vehicle.
 
Let's strap in and go for an adventure. Lions tigers and bears! Oh wait, bears...
 
My expectation, per my Tesla, is that service will be great until the mid-size goes into production. 😅
 
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