Drive System Warning - 2,000 miles and 6 weeks after full warranty expired

It’s not a joke they won’t tow outside of warranty. Why should they?

And why did you buy car with service 10 hours away?

Sometimes bad luck happens, that’s life.
love the client blaming here.

I said they wouldn't tow INSIDE warranty, nevermind outside warranty.

and I bought the car with service 10 hours away because i live in the middle of nowhere. I contacted lucid prior to buying the car to see how warranty support worked and they assured me remote work, sending a tech, and towing were all options for warranty work and when something in warranty happened, it didn't. I had to fight tooth and nail for months to get it serviced. I never had a problem with porsche or any of the other luxury vehicles i had before towing to their dealership hours away. Hell, the only problem I had with my cayman was a pinched windshield washer line and they towed and fixed the line...it probably cost them thousands of dollars for a $30-$40 part.

And I didn't think the car would breakdown a mere six weeks after warranty.

As much as i hate people like watermelon or whatever his name is posting here always bashing lucid non stop, I can't help but dislike the posts of people that say lucid can do no wrong and it's the client that's always at fault.
 
I'm surprised at you saying it will cost you "thousands of dollars" to transport your car to the service center. I moved my lucid in an enclosed transport from Texas to Northern California for $1650. Not cheap but really far.

I feel like your issue might be covered under warranty. Not the tow which I would be very frustrated as well but the motor...

"Powertrain Limited Warranty

The Powertrain is covered for the duration of 8 years or 100,000 miles (160,000 km),

whichever occurs first. The Powertrain Limited Warranty will cover the cost of repair,

replacement, or adjustment of the defective parts of the Lucid powertrain subject

to the limitations outlined in this New Vehicle Limited Warranty. This coverage is for

Lucid’s sophisticated electric powertrain, including the fully integrated electric drive units,

transmission, and differential.

If it is determined that your powertrain requires warranty repair, Lucid will repair, replace, or

adjust the part with a new, reconditioned, or remanufactured part at the discretion of Lucid."
we're in Canada. The estimate is $2500+tax...so basically $3000+repairs. We operate on a different level of corporate greed in Canada

I investigated and I think/hope you may be right. What throws me off are the posts of the people who received this error and it ended up being coolant leaks, etc. Not necessarily directly with the powertrain. If it's powertrain, then yes, it's covered by warranty but because the message is so generic, we have no idea what it means. And parking the car for three days is one way to figure it out, according to them. Like I said, good thing we have three vehicles.

Another bump is that even if it is discovered to be a warranty issue, i'll have to fight with them to pay for that tow as well. It's a complete circus.
 
love the client blaming here.

I said they wouldn't tow INSIDE warranty, nevermind outside warranty.

and I bought the car with service 10 hours away because i live in the middle of nowhere. I contacted lucid prior to buying the car to see how warranty support worked and they assured me remote work, sending a tech, and towing were all options for warranty work and when something in warranty happened, it didn't. I had to fight tooth and nail for months to get it serviced. I never had a problem with porsche or any of the other luxury vehicles i had before towing to their dealership hours away. Hell, the only problem I had with my cayman was a pinched windshield washer line and they towed and fixed the line...it probably cost them thousands of dollars for a $30-$40 part.

And I didn't think the car would breakdown a mere six weeks after warranty.

As much as i hate people like watermelon or whatever his name is posting here always bashing lucid non stop, I can't help but dislike the posts of people that say lucid can do no wrong and it's the client that's always at fault.
It’s ironic to me that some of the commentators who are quick to blame customers are bullish on the stock. It’s as if they don’t realize that a successful upstart car company needs to prioritize meeting customer expectations. And if they don’t they’ll not only lose customers but investors as well.

And even if your investment in Lucid is limited to owning their product, stories like this just add to the depreciation cliff of the brand. And that’s a real problem for the next product launch. Because prospective buyers (and investors) always have choices.
 
It’s ironic to me that some of the commentators who are quick to blame customers are bullish on the stock. It’s as if they don’t realize that a successful upstart car company needs to prioritize meeting customer expectations. And if they don’t they’ll not only lose customers but investors as well.

And even if your investment in Lucid is limited to owning their product, stories like this just add to the depreciation cliff of the brand. And that’s a real problem for the next product launch. Because prospective buyers (and investors) always have choices.
They take any brand criticism as an attack on their shares. I’ve been accused so many times of being a “shorty” or “spreading FUD” to hurt this penny stock. It’s laughable.
 
... I’ve been accused so many times of being a “shorty” or “spreading FUD” to hurt this penny stock. It’s laughable.
How dare you.

The stock is down only 99% since 2021, and today the stock is worth over three hundred of those pennies you speak of so dismissively. THREE HUNDRED!

Happy Tuesday.
 
we're in Canada. The estimate is $2500+tax...so basically $3000+repairs. We operate on a different level of corporate greed in Canada

I investigated and I think/hope you may be right. What throws me off are the posts of the people who received this error and it ended up being coolant leaks, etc. Not necessarily directly with the powertrain. If it's powertrain, then yes, it's covered by warranty but because the message is so generic, we have no idea what it means. And parking the car for three days is one way to figure it out, according to them. Like I said, good thing we have three vehicles.

Another bump is that even if it is discovered to be a warranty issue, i'll have to fight with them to pay for that tow as well. It's a complete circus.
So, did it work?

Also, parking the car for 3 days is to rebalance the batteries. If you got a yellow drive warning that’s almost certainly the issue.

I did get a red drive warning out of warranty (the kind that also limits speed) and they replaced my RDU under the powertrain warranty due to an oil leak.
 
So, did it work?

Also, parking the car for 3 days is to rebalance the batteries. If you got a yellow drive warning that’s almost certainly the issue.

I did get a red drive warning out of warranty (the kind that also limits speed) and they replaced my RDU under the powertrain warranty due to an oil leak.
nope, nothing worked. Didn't receive an email or call from lucid. Called the SA's "personal" cell phone, no answer and just a generic phone number voicemail so didn't want to leave a message.

I called the service centre directly on friday and the SA i've been dealing with answered the phone. He told me he'd give me an answer within an hour and a half. Never heard back from him and emailed him again this weekend to see what's up. It's monday today so I'll give him until early afternoon to sort things out.

Still have the error message, etc.

And I'm obviously worrying about outside warranty stuff but even if it's in warranty, it's absolutely absurd and asinine that i have to argue for a tow for something they are supposed to cover.
 
Below is an excerpt of the towing section warranty. This means even if one has a legit drivetrain and powertrain warranty claim post the 4 years / 50K miles, the towing is not covered. How is anyone going to get the car into the SC for a real drivetrain issue? Lucid should take responsibility for the tow for a legitimate drivetrain issue for the duration of the drivetrain warranty.

This is really problematic and highlights the point our dear OP has raised. How do other OEMs handle this issue?
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Drivetrain & Powertrain Warranty
    • Duration & Mileage: 8 years or 100,000 miles (160,000 km), whichever comes first.
    • What is Covered: The electric powertrain, including the fully integrated electric drive units, transmission, and differential. Lucid will repair, replace, or adjust defective parts with new, reconditioned, or remanufactured parts at their discretion.
    • High-Voltage Battery: Covered for the same 8 years / 100,000 miles, with a guarantee of at least 70% capacity retention.
    • Basic Vehicle Warranty: 4 years or 50,000 miles for general vehicle components.

Towing & Roadside Assistance
    • Warranty Towing / Roadside Assistance: Included at no charge for 4 years or 50,000 miles(whichever comes first). [1]
    • What It Covers:
      • Emergency towing and transport for warranty-covered mechanical breakdowns to the nearest authorized Lucid Service Center (with ride-share or alternate transportation options available).
      • Flat tire assistance (one tow per event to a Lucid Service Center or tire center within a 50-mile radius).
      • 12V battery service.
 
that would be absolutely crazy if the warranty towing i just good for the first 4 years/50k miles (even beyond my point that my first tow was within that timeframe and they wouldn't cover it).

I only had one other similar incident years ago. In 2020 we had an older Macan with tons of miles. It was well beyond the initial warranty but it ended up having a differential issue and we are 3-4 hours away from the Porsche dealership and they towed it and repaired the diff since the differential actually had an extended warranty on it due to a known issue. Similar thing where the basic warranty is gone and a specific extra thing covered by warranty is covered. Porsche was there.

I can't wait for them to fix this so i can get out of my lucid. I really wanted to like the vehicle and if i had decent service, i'd probably keep it...but fighting for months in the past year for a few basic issues is disheartening and definitely not a "luxury" experience.

I'll still keep this thread posted if they ever answer me again.
 
Below is an excerpt of the towing section warranty. This means even if one has a legit drivetrain and powertrain warranty claim post the 4 years / 50K miles, the towing is not covered. How is anyone going to get the car into the SC for a real drivetrain issue? Lucid should take responsibility for the tow for a legitimate drivetrain issue for the duration of the drivetrain warranty.

This is really problematic and highlights the point our dear OP has raised. How do other OEMs handle this issue?
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Drivetrain & Powertrain Warranty
    • Duration & Mileage: 8 years or 100,000 miles (160,000 km), whichever comes first.
    • What is Covered: The electric powertrain, including the fully integrated electric drive units, transmission, and differential. Lucid will repair, replace, or adjust defective parts with new, reconditioned, or remanufactured parts at their discretion.
    • High-Voltage Battery: Covered for the same 8 years / 100,000 miles, with a guarantee of at least 70% capacity retention.
    • Basic Vehicle Warranty: 4 years or 50,000 miles for general vehicle components.

Towing & Roadside Assistance
    • Warranty Towing / Roadside Assistance: Included at no charge for 4 years or 50,000 miles(whichever comes first). [1]
    • What It Covers:
      • Emergency towing and transport for warranty-covered mechanical breakdowns to the nearest authorized Lucid Service Center (with ride-share or alternate transportation options available).
      • Flat tire assistance (one tow per event to a Lucid Service Center or tire center within a 50-mile radius).
      • 12V battery service.
I suspect that most OEM's don't cover towing beyond the basic warranty/roadside assistance period. What makes this particularly challenging for Lucid owners is the sparse service center network in certain parts of the country. If a vehicle has to be transported hours to a service center the cost of transport is going to be significant. The language is explicit however which means there's likely little flexibility on the issue. It's another consideration in purchasing particularly if you're quite a distance from a service center.
 
Well cleaning up after failed leadership is not a quick and simple process.

Oh and just because you can create something awesome doesn’t mean you have the ability to carry it forward.
 
I did some further googling on this issue. Turns out there IS a clause to cover towing for drivetrain issues. OP, please take notice.
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When your basic 4-year/50,000-mile warranty expires, the complimentary, any-reason Roadside Assistance Program also ends. However, because your 8-year/100,000-mile powertrain and high-voltage battery warranties remain fully active, a separate mechanism kicks in to handle your towing. [1, 2, 3]
The transition shifts from a commercial roadside perk to a direct fulfillment obligation of your drivetrain warranty. [1, 2]

How Towing Works After Year 4

If your vehicle suffers a mechanical or electrical failure that is caused by a defect in a covered powertrain or high-voltage component (such as the drive units, transmission, differential, or high-voltage battery pack), Lucid is legally obligated to arrange and pay for the tow to a Lucid Service Center. [1, 2]
  • The Workflow: You still contact Lucid Customer Care at +1 (888) 995-8243. Instead of dispatching standard roadside assistance, the service team will remotely diagnose the vehicle or document the symptoms (e.g., a "Drive System Warning" on the cockpit display). Once they determine the issue stems from a powertrain component, Lucid coordinates a flatbed transport. [1, 2]
  • The Financial Obligation: The language in the Lucid New Vehicle Limited Warranty establishes that under active component warranties, "Where Lucid is obligated, we will arrange towing" at no cost to you to correct the defect. [1, 2]
What is Strictly Excluded?

Because the general Roadside Assistance Program has expired, you lose access to complimentary towing or help for non-warranty incidents. You will have to pay out-of-pocket or rely on third-party coverage (like AAA or your auto insurance) if you experience: [1]
  • Flat Tires: Towing to a tire center or on-site flat tire changes are no longer covered.
  • 12V Battery Failures: General 12V battery jumps or towing for auxiliary battery failure are excluded unless the 12V failure was directly caused by a malfunction in the main high-voltage powertrain charging system.
  • Lockouts or Charge Depletion: Running out of driving range or getting locked out of the car will not qualify for a covered tow.
  • Accidents: Collision-related towing is handled entirely by your auto insurance provider. [1]

The Catch: Conditional Reimbursement

If your vehicle is completely dead on the side of the road and a definitive remote diagnosis isn't possible, Lucid will still typically arrange the transport. However, the coverage is conditional upon physical diagnosis. [1]
If the service center tears down the vehicle and discovers the breakdown was caused by an excluded item (e.g., a rodent chewed through a wiring harness, road debris cracked a component, or a basic 12V battery simply died), you will be billed retroactively for the towing charges and the subsequent repair. [1, 2]

Additionally,
The explicit language detailing this obligation can be found directly within the official Lucid New Vehicle Limited Warranty document. [1]

The primary legal and contractual sources that outline how this coverage operates include:


1. The Service Center Mandate & Towing Provision

Under the section "How To Obtain Warranty Service" (Page 13 of the official Warranty manual), Lucid explicitly states:

"To obtain warranty service, notify Lucid within the applicable warranty coverage period and bring your vehicle to a Lucid Service Center. Where Lucid is obligated, we will arrange towing."
Because the Powertrain Limited Warranty and High Voltage Battery Limited Warranty are active for 8 years or 100,000 miles, Lucid remains contractually obligated to fix manufacturing defects in those specific components for that full duration. If a defect in those components renders the car undrivable, the clause “Where Lucid is obligated, we will arrange towing” applies directly to getting the car to a Lucid Service Center. [1, 2]


2. Separation of Roadside Assistance from Warranty


The distinction between general "any-reason" roadside towing and warranty-mandated towing is verified under the section "What To Do If You Need Roadside Assistance?" (Page 14), which states:

"Roadside Assistance is an additional service offered by the Lucid Roadside Assistance Program and is not provided as part of the New Vehicle Limited Warranty."
This confirms that when the standalone Roadside Assistance Program expires (at the 4-year/50,000-mile mark), you only lose the roadside coverage perks (such as lockouts, flat tires, and dead 12V batteries). The broader, 8-year contractual obligation to transport a vehicle suffering a fundamental drivetrain failure remains legally tied to the active Powertrain warranty itself. [1]


3. Rectification Without Charge

Further legal grounding is established under "What Does This Warranty Cover?" (Page 5), which mandates how warranty defects are resolved:

"Such rectification shall be via repair, replacement, or adjustment of the faulty parts or components without charge."
If a vehicle cannot be driven to a service center due to a defective powertrain component, the cost of transporting the vehicle is legally interpreted as part of the necessary overhead to fulfill a "without charge" warranty rectification.
 
I did some further googling on this issue. Turns out there IS a clause to cover towing for drivetrain issues. OP, please take notice.
------

When your basic 4-year/50,000-mile warranty expires, the complimentary, any-reason Roadside Assistance Program also ends. However, because your 8-year/100,000-mile powertrain and high-voltage battery warranties remain fully active, a separate mechanism kicks in to handle your towing. [1, 2, 3]
The transition shifts from a commercial roadside perk to a direct fulfillment obligation of your drivetrain warranty. [1, 2]

How Towing Works After Year 4

If your vehicle suffers a mechanical or electrical failure that is caused by a defect in a covered powertrain or high-voltage component (such as the drive units, transmission, differential, or high-voltage battery pack), Lucid is legally obligated to arrange and pay for the tow to a Lucid Service Center. [1, 2]
  • The Workflow: You still contact Lucid Customer Care at +1 (888) 995-8243. Instead of dispatching standard roadside assistance, the service team will remotely diagnose the vehicle or document the symptoms (e.g., a "Drive System Warning" on the cockpit display). Once they determine the issue stems from a powertrain component, Lucid coordinates a flatbed transport. [1, 2]
  • The Financial Obligation: The language in the Lucid New Vehicle Limited Warranty establishes that under active component warranties, "Where Lucid is obligated, we will arrange towing" at no cost to you to correct the defect. [1, 2]
What is Strictly Excluded?

Because the general Roadside Assistance Program has expired, you lose access to complimentary towing or help for non-warranty incidents. You will have to pay out-of-pocket or rely on third-party coverage (like AAA or your auto insurance) if you experience: [1]
  • Flat Tires: Towing to a tire center or on-site flat tire changes are no longer covered.
  • 12V Battery Failures: General 12V battery jumps or towing for auxiliary battery failure are excluded unless the 12V failure was directly caused by a malfunction in the main high-voltage powertrain charging system.
  • Lockouts or Charge Depletion: Running out of driving range or getting locked out of the car will not qualify for a covered tow.
  • Accidents: Collision-related towing is handled entirely by your auto insurance provider. [1]

The Catch: Conditional Reimbursement

If your vehicle is completely dead on the side of the road and a definitive remote diagnosis isn't possible, Lucid will still typically arrange the transport. However, the coverage is conditional upon physical diagnosis. [1]
If the service center tears down the vehicle and discovers the breakdown was caused by an excluded item (e.g., a rodent chewed through a wiring harness, road debris cracked a component, or a basic 12V battery simply died), you will be billed retroactively for the towing charges and the subsequent repair. [1, 2]

Additionally,
The explicit language detailing this obligation can be found directly within the official Lucid New Vehicle Limited Warranty document. [1]

The primary legal and contractual sources that outline how this coverage operates include:


1. The Service Center Mandate & Towing Provision

Under the section "How To Obtain Warranty Service" (Page 13 of the official Warranty manual), Lucid explicitly states:


Because the Powertrain Limited Warranty and High Voltage Battery Limited Warranty are active for 8 years or 100,000 miles, Lucid remains contractually obligated to fix manufacturing defects in those specific components for that full duration. If a defect in those components renders the car undrivable, the clause “Where Lucid is obligated, we will arrange towing” applies directly to getting the car to a Lucid Service Center. [1, 2]


2. Separation of Roadside Assistance from Warranty


The distinction between general "any-reason" roadside towing and warranty-mandated towing is verified under the section "What To Do If You Need Roadside Assistance?" (Page 14), which states:


This confirms that when the standalone Roadside Assistance Program expires (at the 4-year/50,000-mile mark), you only lose the roadside coverage perks (such as lockouts, flat tires, and dead 12V batteries). The broader, 8-year contractual obligation to transport a vehicle suffering a fundamental drivetrain failure remains legally tied to the active Powertrain warranty itself. [1]


3. Rectification Without Charge

Further legal grounding is established under "What Does This Warranty Cover?" (Page 5), which mandates how warranty defects are resolved:


If a vehicle cannot be driven to a service center due to a defective powertrain component, the cost of transporting the vehicle is legally interpreted as part of the necessary overhead to fulfill a "without charge" warranty rectification.
QQ did you actually read and verify this against Lucid documents or was this ai generated?

I trust you but you know we are talking about, potentially, thousands of dollars. So how well do you trust it?
 
QQ did you actually read and verify this against Lucid documents or was this ai generated?

I trust you but you know we are talking about, potentially, thousands of dollars. So how well do you trust it?
Good question. This is a paste verbatim from Google Gemini and it is subject to some degree of hallucination.
 
Good question. This is a paste verbatim from Google Gemini and it is subject to some degree of hallucination.
Might want to clarify whether your prompt to Gemini was for Canadian law. If not, it probably recognizes you're in the bay area, and only considered the rules for the USA.
 
Might want to clarify whether your prompt to Gemini was for Canadian law. If not, it probably recognizes you're in the bay area, and only considered the rules for the USA.

Prompt: Does this tow coverage that you mentioned above after the 4 year basic warranty but before the end of 8 year drivetrain warranty applicable to Canada as well?

Yes, this exact same drivetrain towing coverage applies to Canada as well. [1]
The legal and contractual framework that separates general roadside assistance from warranty-mandated towing is identical across North America.

Canadian Framework & Warranty Language
The official Lucid New Vehicle Limited Warranty for Canada features the exact same core parameters as the U.S. version, adjusted for local currency and Canadian entities:
  • The Warrantor: In Canada, the contract is legally backed by Lucid Motors Canada ULC (based in Vancouver, BC) rather than the U.S. entity. [1]
  • The Metric Conversion: While the U.S. warranty notes 100,000 miles, the Canadian document explicitly binds the Powertrain and High-Voltage Battery coverage to 8 years or 160,000 kilometers, whichever comes first.
  • The Towing Mandate: Under the Canadian section "How To Obtain Warranty Service" (Page 15), the precise legal phrasing remains unchanged: "Where Lucid is obligated, we will arrange towing".
Because Lucid Motors Canada ULC is contractually obligated to rectify any powertrain or high-voltage battery defects "without charge" for 8 years / 160,000 km, they must cover the logistics of transporting an inoperable vehicle to a Lucid Service Centre to fulfill that fix. [1]

Dispute Resolution Variations in Canada

If a Canadian owner ever faces a disagreement with Lucid regarding whether a breakdown was caused by a covered drivetrain component (and who handles the tow bill), the legal route for resolution is tailored to Canadian law:
  • CAMVAP Eligibility: Instead of using the American BBB AUTO LINE, Canadian owners resolve unresolved warranty performance disputes through the Canadian Motor Vehicle Arbitration Plan (CAMVAP).
  • Binding Nature: Unlike the U.S. process (where the BBB decision is only binding on the manufacturer), a CAMVAP decision is final and binding on both you and Lucid to avoid the time and cost of going to court.
 
love the client blaming here.

I said they wouldn't tow INSIDE warranty, nevermind outside warranty.

and I bought the car with service 10 hours away because i live in the middle of nowhere. I contacted lucid prior to buying the car to see how warranty support worked and they assured me remote work, sending a tech, and towing were all options for warranty work and when something in warranty happened, it didn't. I had to fight tooth and nail for months to get it serviced. I never had a problem with porsche or any of the other luxury vehicles i had before towing to their dealership hours away. Hell, the only problem I had with my cayman was a pinched windshield washer line and they towed and fixed the line...it probably cost them thousands of dollars for a $30-$40 part.

And I didn't think the car would breakdown a mere six weeks after warranty.

As much as i hate people like watermelon or whatever his name is posting here always bashing lucid non stop, I can't help but dislike the posts of people that say lucid can do no wrong and it's the client that's always at fault.
Hate is a strong word my friend. I am sorry, you are experiencing what many of us have been going through with Lucid.
 
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