Update regarding Phone as a Key availability for Gravity owners

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Rivian and Tesla offer other options like using your watch to open the vehicle. Rivian used to offer a wristband and Tesla even lets you use certain smart rings as well.

Plenty of ways to open a car besides a bulky key fob whose whole purpose is just that. Valets don't love it, but most know how to use the key cards to start a Tesla by now due their common place so I haven't had to explain it with either my Rivian or Tesla.

Not a big deal for some, I get it, but for those of who us who like the feature, it is in fact a big deal. This has been one of my biggest holdups, software wise, on getting a Gravity. Not the only, but its a qualify of life thing that I do enjoy is PAAK. It's like CarPlay/AA. Not a big deal for some but a make it or break it for those who do want it.

Okay this is what I don't understand, if is not okay to have to carry around a key fob but it is okay to carry around a key card? Said key card which does quite a bit less than the key fob, no trunk or frunk opening via the key card, have to enter the car and open the trunk/frunk via the dashboard.

The thing I'm wondering about is if one has to have PAAK so you don't have to carry around a key fob then I'm assuming you quite likely use applepay/googlepay and don't carry around credit cards and likely do not have a wallet (some states allow your license to be in your phone wallet). So if you don't have a wallet how would carrying around a key card work? Am I assuming something incorrect here?

 

[Spaceship]

Okay this is what I don't understand, if is not okay to have to carry around a key fob but it is okay to carry around a key card? Said key card which does quite a bit less than the key fob, no trunk or frunk opening via the key card, have to enter the car and open the trunk/frunk via the dashboard.

The thing I'm wondering about is if one has to have PAAK so you don't have to carry around a key fob then I'm assuming you quite likely use applepay/googlepay and don't carry around credit cards and likely do not have a wallet (some states allow your license to be in your phone wallet). So if you don't have a wallet how would carrying around a key card work? Am I assuming something incorrect here?

I have a slim magsafe wallet attached to my phone. One can also just a carry a regular wallet and throw the keycard in there instead of carrying yet another item in the form of a fob. The app can open the frunk and trunk as well, so I really don't see a need for a fob in any scenario where PAAK is involved.

Again, totally my opinion based on my use case, but to me, it makes a huge difference. I personally don't see a need for a fob in 2026. To me.

 

[socktucker]

Okay this is what I don't understand, if is not okay to have to carry around a key fob but it is okay to carry around a key card? Said key card which does quite a bit less than the key fob, no trunk or frunk opening via the key card, have to enter the car and open the trunk/frunk via the dashboard.

The thing I'm wondering about is if one has to have PAAK so you don't have to carry around a key fob then I'm assuming you quite likely use applepay/googlepay and don't carry around credit cards and likely do not have a wallet (some states allow your license to be in your phone wallet). So if you don't have a wallet how would carrying around a key card work? Am I assuming something incorrect here?

key fob doesn't fit in my wallet

most States do not support digital licenses (only 20 and not all have full support I guess). My business credit card doesn't work with Apple Wallet, neither does my health insurance card, my business cards, or my cash money. So I have to have a wallet, and I put my Tesla card and Lucid card in there.