Out of Spec roadtrips Gravity and DDP2 has some issues

[Bdr100]

Kyle takes his long term Gravity loaner on a road trip and had some issues with handsfree DDP2. His experience is very similar to mine from a recent road trip. Off and on zig-zag behavior, sudden disengagements and occasional sh*t the bed on lane keeping. I almost think things have gone backwards from old hands-on DDP2. To the point where I now drive with hand on wheel so I am ready for sudden disengagements or other issues. Can’t wait for NVIDIA system to come on board as I do not have a whole lot of confidence in current system.

 

[erigion]

Every Lucid already uses some form of Nvidia's ADAS.

 

[Bdr100]

Every Lucid already uses some form of Nvidia's ADAS.

Was refering to the NVIDIA Alpamayo self driving system (similar to Tesla FSD) that is supposed to come to Lucid at end of year (probably more like early to mid next year).

 

[RandomDesign]

Off and on zig-zag behavior, sudden disengagements and occasional sh*t the bed on lane keeping.

I don't see the disengagements much (and I just did probably at least 2k miles on DDP) but the couple times I've had the ping-ponging cleaning the front and rear facing cameras seemed to clear it up.

 

[socktucker]

I don't see the disengagements much (and I just did probably at least 2k miles on DDP) but the couple times I've had the ping-ponging cleaning the front and rear facing cameras seemed to clear it up.

My Tesla likes to do that on some freeway spots

 

[kkumar99]

I've said this before, but the lucid dream drive system is similar to a 2019 or so Tesla before they had "navigate on autopilot." Obviously Tesla was one of the first, so people were just mostly impressed. All the car companies have a long way to go to catch Tesla and realistically some should just consider using Tesla's system if it actually is available for licensing. Unfortunately everyone considers the data to be too valuable and no one wants to give it to Tesla. It is a step hill to climb but eventually the car companies will figure it out. I can tell you that all my friends who get new Teslas are absolutely amazed by the self driving and often swear they will never get a car without it. I still have the model x and understand this sentiment. I do believe FSD is eventually going to be a must have feature for many people to even consider buying a car....

 

[kkumar99]

Today I took the model x and there was a tree cutting crew blocking one lane. They had 2 guys directing traffic only with their hands, no stop/slow signs or anything like that. Impressively the model x stopped when he put his hand up standing there. More impressively, it started automatically when he have the wave to go.... What Tesla has done with fsd is truly impressive and regardless of what people's thoughts are on it, it is going to be the standard to which all autonomous systems are going to be compared to...

 

[gaskiller]

Kyle takes his long term Gravity loaner on a road trip and had some issues with handsfree DDP2. His experience is very similar to mine from a recent road trip. Off and on zig-zag behavior, sudden disengagements and occasional sh*t the bed on lane keeping. I almost think things have gone backwards from old hands-on DDP2. To the point where I now drive with hand on wheel so I am ready for sudden disengagements or other issues. Can’t wait for NVIDIA system to come on board as I do not have a whole lot of confidence in current system.

Every autonomous system has issues like this on occasions. Even Tesla…..nothing burger. YAWN……

 

[gaskiller]

Today I took the model x and there was a tree cutting crew blocking one lane. They had 2 guys directing traffic only with their hands, no stop/slow signs or anything like that. Impressively the model x stopped when he put his hand up standing there. More impressively, it started automatically when he have the wave to go.... What Tesla has done with fsd is truly impressive and regardless of what people's thoughts are on it, it is going to be the standard to which all autonomous systems are going to be compared to...

Did you try driving across train crossings ?

 

[gaskiller]

I've said this before, but the lucid dream drive system is similar to a 2019 or so Tesla before they had "navigate on autopilot." Obviously Tesla was one of the first, so people were just mostly impressed. All the car companies have a long way to go to catch Tesla and realistically some should just consider using Tesla's system if it actually is available for licensing. Unfortunately everyone considers the data to be too valuable and no one wants to give it to Tesla. It is a step hill to climb but eventually the car companies will figure it out. I can tell you that all my friends who get new Teslas are absolutely amazed by the self driving and often swear they will never get a car without it. I still have the model x and understand this sentiment. I do believe FSD is eventually going to be a must have feature for many people to even consider buying a car....

No….do not use Teslas cameras….that was a short cut by Musk. Eventually, Tesla will be overtaken by those using radar/lidar/cameras. Just a matter if time. Do not put our lives in a system without redundancy. Do not drink the kool aid…..

 

[krupawan5618]

I joined the forum to simply reiterate that this is likely more than minor inconvenience, but rather a dangerous issue.

I drove across the state of Ohio without any issues with hands free driving, but on the way back it was swaying left to right. I tried a soft reset which didn’t help. I wondered if there is a sensor blocked, or a chip is overheating, or something?

I hadn't tried cleaning the front and rear facing cameras, but if that is the issue the system should notify the end user that is the likely fix OR simply not allow for hands free driving in suboptimal conditions.

When it worked though, it was awesome!

 

[prgarg]

I joined the forum to simply reiterate that this is likely more than minor inconvenience, but rather a dangerous issue.

I drove across the state of Ohio without any issues with hands free driving, but on the way back it was swaying left to right. I tried a soft reset which didn’t help. I wondered if there is a sensor blocked, or a chip is overheating, or something?

I hadn't tried cleaning the front and rear facing cameras, but if that is the issue the system should notify the end user that is the likely fix OR simply not allow for hands free driving in suboptimal conditions.

When it worked though, it was awesome!

Wonder what causes it... I agree the system should warn you about the error or the cause.
For what it's worth, I have driven (or been driven ) lots of miles on DDP2 and have yet to experience that.

 

[Aka-none]

No….do not use Teslas cameras….that was a short cut by Musk. Eventually, Tesla will be overtaken by those using radar/lidar/cameras. Just a matter if time. Do not put our lives in a system without redundancy. Do not drink the kool aid…..

And lest we forget Tesla is NOT hands free it’s L2 assisted driving.
Right there front page:

https://www.tesla.com/

Yes they show happy people dancing in the car, right before they get T boned because the car didnt see the truck failing to stop. Or the idiot in rush hour cut in front of you while being tailgated.

Personally if you are behind the wheel of 6000 pounds of metal and plastic going down the highway then you should be paying attention. If you want fad then get a Waymo or a chauffeur. We aren’t there yet and neither is Tesla, it’s good but it isn’t as perfect as people think and dancing drivers doesn’t help with that perception.

 

[RajD]

Wonder what causes it... I agree the system should warn you about the error or the cause.
For what it's worth, I have driven (or been driven ) lots of miles on DDP2 and have yet to experience that.

I have at least 1000 miles on DDP and never had that occur. It’s improved as a system significantly since hands free DA was first released though. Used to disengage frequently and in bright sunlight in morning. Now on same daily commute, it’s rock solid. Just waiting for Level 2++ to get me to remember to take my exit!