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Would You Purchase Again?

hmp10 said:
't mention range in my post because it's actually not that relevant to me. After four miserable years of Electrify America and other CCS charging on road trips, I'm much more interested in the Gravity's charging speed and access to Tesla Superchargers which have been superb so far.
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I don't care about range either, but I have read that Lucid used a different method to test thiers right?
 
chrisbworth said:
Yeah, I used 85% of my battery to go 230 miles from Birmingham to Memphis (the stretch that's made me wait many years longer than I would have otherwise waited to get an EV) driving as fast as traffic allowed (i.e. around 83mph). On the way there I went from 99 to 14, and on the way back I did 88 to 3. So like 2.3-2.4 miles per kWh. I do wish I could do the trip from 80% (and I probably could if I stuck to 70--if I baby the car and keep it at 70, I *can* do 2.9mpkWh), but one of my reasons for waiting so long was that I didn't want to have to change my driving habits around a car's needs). Still, I really have no complaints about the usability of the Gravity's range, just frustrations with the EPA rules and Lucid's, uh, optimism. But as you pointed out, the charging is so good it really hardly matters.
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Yep, this right here for range. It has enough to allow me to drive as fast as I want to and the charging speed and availability/reliability of the Tesla network, that I don't worry about it not reach 386 miles of range. In this cold we are in now, it is estimating about 300 miles on full charge. My wife's EV9 is estimating almost 100 less miles and it gets about 270-300 on a good weather day. The Gravity's range is pretty darn great, just not the very lofty numbers they advertise.
 
why is there a proliferation of AI/LLM responses on here? Can we make copy-paste AI responses against the rules?
 
WeighingGravity said:
...the Cayenne is probably the only car I'd consider as an alternative,... won't have SC access (which is a dealbreaker for me on any other vehicle)....
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Macan and Taycan EVs have had supercharger access for a couple months now - I'm assuming the Cayenne will as well, and it has a NACS port for DCFC, no adapter needed.
 
If I were in your shoes, I'd wait to buy a Gravity.

My situation was different from yours:
I didn't need a new car, I wanted a new car, an ev for the first time, and I wasn't about to wait years and years until the battery tech and charging infrastructure was "better" (a relative term).
If I had an existing ev that I was pleased with, I'd stay with it; especially considering the relative newness of yours ('21; I keep cars forever or until I can justify buying a new one).

BTW, I've only had one issue (center console needed replacing) with my GGT in almost 4 months of ownership.
A minor issue (slow loading screens occassionally) that improved with the last sw update.

If I were to try to consider an alternative, the Cayenne would be the closest; not a realistic alternative (spending $62k extra and getting less).
So, really no alternatives.
I'd buy my GGT again.
 
Most likely, but I'd still complain about the glitches. We drive our Gravity almost exclusively vs our 2019 Model X that is still in the driveway.

Ask me again once the top-end Genesis GV90 ships and I give it a test drive. 😂
 
DeaneG said:
Macan and Taycan EVs have had supercharger access for a couple months now - I'm assuming the Cayenne will as well, and it has a NACS port for DCFC, no adapter needed.
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I didn't know that. Thanks for pointing it out. Makes Porsche a lot more competitive now for my business - though I am out of the market for a while now that I have my Gravity.

I test drove a Cayenne e-Hybrid Coupe and it was pretty awesome. Amazing interior, drove great, lots of fun. I bet the EV version will be great. But doesn't have nearly the same interior space and will cost a fortune. I wonder what the new K1 3-row thing will look like, but it's still a ways off.
 
socktucker said:
I don't care about range either, but I have read that Lucid used a different method to test thiers right?
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Lucid uses the 5-cycle protocol (as does Tesla) which produces a more "optimistic" range rating. Some carmakers, the Germans especially, use the 2-cycle method which more closely approximates the highway range you'll see.

There have been some recent changes in EPA testing methods that are supposed to give a more accurate sense of real-world range, and I'm not up to speed on just how they work.
 
canucklehead said:
I’m about one month away from delivery of my GGT. I’m uncertain as to whether I should take delivery or eat the deposit and buy in a year or so when many of the early bugs are worked out. Mobile service is an option where I live, and it sounds like they can do some repair work using a third party site in my city, but the closest actual Lucid service center is a 10 hour drive from me.

Although I’d like to get a new vehicle, I don’t need one. My ‘21 Model S still does everything I need. It’s hard to get a sense of how impactful or prevalent the software bugs are when reading through the forums. I’m wondering if people who have already taken delivery of a GGT would buy again given their experience, and if they would buy now if in my shoes?
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I do own and 2022 AGT that I really love and yes, I will do it all over again. By the way, I just purchased a used 2022 Model X Plain to replace my old Toyota Highlander and comparing both brands, I can say that Lucid is a far superior product, they own the build quality and efficiency game hands down.
 
My '23 AGT is the best car I've ever owned, and I love it still... but, I wouldn't buy another Lucid as my next car. My love for it is dwindling in light of all the minor software glitches, key FOB issues, insurance cost where I live, and other quirky things I deal with on a daily and weekly basis. In aggregate, all these little things add up to annoyance and disappointment so when I go car shopping in a few years, I'm not buying another Lucid until all of this better or fixed.
 
I appreciate everyone's thoughtful responses here. We've had Tesla's for almost a decade now (2 Model S's and a Model X) and are ready to try something different. I was quite excited about the Gravity when I placed the order back in the summer. However, I'm definitely having second thoughts now given the number of issues people are having and more importantly my distance to a service center. It seems like it's about 60/40 in favour of would buy again vs. would not buy again, which isn't encouraging given the cost involved. I'll lose my deposit if I cancel now that my order is in production, right? That's a minor factor, as better to lose $1000 then spend $100,000 on something we're unhappy with.
 
Daryl75 said:
I do own and 2022 AGT that I really love and yes, I will do it all over again. By the way, I just purchased a used 2022 Model X Plain to replace my old Toyota Highlander and comparing both brands, I can say that Lucid is a far superior product, they own the build quality and efficiency game hands down.
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oh yeah for sure I have a Tesla too and its laughable compared to Lucid on everything except convenience and usability.
 
canucklehead said:
I appreciate everyone's thoughtful responses here. We've had Tesla's for almost a decade now (2 Model S's and a Model X) and are ready to try something different. I was quite excited about the Gravity when I placed the order back in the summer. However, I'm definitely having second thoughts now given the number of issues people are having and more importantly my distance to a service center. It seems like it's about 60/40 in favour of would buy again vs. would not buy again, which isn't encouraging given the cost involved. I'll lose my deposit if I cancel now that my order is in production, right? That's a minor factor, as better to lose $1000 then spend $100,000 on something we're unhappy with.
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Just remember that "60/40 in favour" is with an online forum, which can skew toward negative.
 
msaunders9430 said:
Just remember that "60/40 in favour" is with an online forum, which can skew toward negative.
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Agreed. This isn't really data. I could tell you that I've had a great service experience, but if I didn't mention that I'm 20 miles from a service center that point might be a bit skewed.

It really comes down to what you are comfortable with. I would consider the feedback here to be a anecdotal and coming from a very small and engaged owner sample. Knowing your own priorities, expectations, and tolerances should be your guide.
 
Take it for what it’s worth, I’m in several Gravity FB forums with similar annoyed owners. This forum can just as easily be filled with happy owners. When the sentiment changes in this forum, I’ll be ready to buy.
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Nope. 2 weeks in with my Gravity GT, it's just not reliable enough. Way too many software bugs. I would give it back today if I could. I love how it drives, but the software bugs are over the top. I work in tech and with startups, so I have a high tolerance for beta products, but this has been unacceptable. I'd wait a year until more of the kinks are worked out. I now can't sell my Volvo XC90 because the Gravity isn't reliable enough. Super frustrating.
 
RLead8 said:
Take it for what it’s worth, I’m in several Gravity FB forums with similar annoyed owners. This forum can just as easily be filled with happy owners. When the sentiment changes in this forum, I’ll be ready to buy.
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The next car owners forum (or Facebook Group) that I participate in where every owner is happy will be the first. And if such a forum exists, and you're aware of it, please provide the details as I would be very interested in buying that car.

Here's another perspective. I also participate in the Lucid Owners Club (sorry, got to be an owner to be one). And those owners are overwhelmingly enthusiastic about the car with most saying it's the best car they've ever owned. But I wouldn't ascribe that view to all owners either. But if that's the only lens I looked at the car through I would have a very skewed perspective.
 
Northpointe said:
The next car owners forum (or Facebook Group) that I participate in where every owner is happy will be the first. And if such a forum exists, and you're aware of it, please provide the details as I would be very interested in buying that car.

Here's another perspective. I also participate in the Lucid Owners Club (sorry, got to be an owner to be one). And those owners are overwhelmingly enthusiastic about the car with most saying it's the best car they've ever owned. But I wouldn't ascribe that view to all owners either. But if that's the only lens I looked at the car through I would have a very skewed perspective.
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I’m not in other groups for other car companies so can’t comment on that.

I had the lens of “well its a small population of people” because I love the car and want to believe that if I buy “my car will be different” but there are way too many people on these forums dealing with serious issues. I know people where I live that love the Air and would buy it again but all have also said its buggy. As others have said, it’s based on your tolerance and necessity/reliance for the car. Even the folks doing the reviews have said that this car will appeal to a different demographic that will be less tolerant of these issues. My feeling/opinion is that odds are high that you will have issues with the Gravity at this stage but severity is unknown and can change at any time. Again, my opinion.
 
I realize this is anecdotal but my neighbor just had to have there Honda Odyssey towed for service and my other neighbor had to have his Volvo XC 90 engine replaced ( on Warranty)
My 2022 AGT 27k miles no meaningful issues at all but is still a great drive
So Yes I would
 
It is hard to extract reasonable opinions in a forum where the naysayers post the same messages repeatedly. Just sayin'...

I thought this thread was about the Gravity, but there seem to be a fair number of posts about the Air too, so it is hard for me to distill the comments down to a meaninful consensus. My Air GT has been flawless so far--a waaaaay better experience than my Audi E-tron GT ownership. I have a friend that just got a Gravity and is having all kinds of problems with it. He also bought a Tesla X when it first came out, and he said the X was even worse. His wife told me she can't understand why he keeps buying these first editions of brand new cars. She has a point.

After reading this forum for close to a year, I think there are people here that aren't bothered by anything, and there are people here who are bothered by everything. There is chaos in the data.
 
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