Navigation routing question

[steveairgt]

Hi, Today I had a real nice test drive of an AGT at Tysons Virginia. One of the more subtle but interesting things I noticed was regarding the navigation.

When I entered a destination point such as Atlanta Georgia, it showed four EA charging locations along the route. Two of the four charging locations showed a location name such as Sheetz or some restaurant, but the other two didn't show any name. It showed how many times to get there and how long to charge. That's it.

I am used to my Tesla navigation routing where it gives you a full name of where you're going to charge.

To all you owners, any explanation about this?
thanks.

 

[steveairgt]

A related question. I saw a place in one of the Nav menus where you download maps by state. What’s that for? Is it because maps are local and you need to periodically update them unlike with Tesla and Google?

 

[hydbob]

A related question. I saw a place in one of the Nav menus where you download maps by state. What’s that for? Is it because maps are local and you need to periodically update them unlike with Tesla and Google?

That's to navigate offline BUT you can't plan a route without service so...you can at least have a map? I downloaded it and it is supposed to make it faster to load the map...supposedly

 

[steveairgt]

That's to navigate offline BUT you can't plan a route without service so...you can at least have a map? I downloaded it and it is supposed to make it faster to load the map...supposedly

What do you mean “without service”? Aren’t you always connected? I’m thinking how my Tesla works.

I’m not sure what the difference is offline vs online in this context.

Thanks

 

[hydbob]

The nav software needs cell service (as far as we know) to create a route. If you are without cell service (dead zone) then you can't route yourself out but (supposedly) with offline maps you can navigate yourself using the map old school

 

[borski]

The nav software needs cell service (as far as we know) to create a route. If you are without cell service (dead zone) then you can't route yourself out but (supposedly) with offline maps you can navigate yourself using the map old school

You can route offline; I’ve done it but it takes a few minutes to fall back to that after it (unsuccessfully) searches for signal. You just don’t get traffic updates.

 

[Bunnylebowski]

Hi, Today I had a real nice test drive of an AGT at Tysons Virginia. One of the more subtle but interesting things I noticed was regarding the navigation.

When I entered a destination point such as Atlanta Georgia, it showed four EA charging locations along the route. Two of the four charging locations showed a location name such as Sheetz or some restaurant, but the other two didn't show any name. It showed how many times to get there and how long to charge. That's it.

I am used to my Tesla navigation routing where it gives you a full name of where you're going to charge.

To all you owners, any explanation about this?
thanks.

I’ll be honest, my least favorite thing about the Lucid is the navigation. My co-worker was showing me his MachE navigation on his app and it’s lit up with whatever charging stations he filters for, and super easy to add waypoints, etc and I’m very jealous of that feature on his car that cost 1/2 of what mine cost. Lucid’s navigation is very bare bones. It does work, like I’ve had 100% success at having Alexa find where I want to go, and it does pick the best route BUT it doesn’t show traffic, it doesn’t given alternate route options, it shows ALL charging stations with no filter so EA will be like option 27, it’s difficult to add waypoints, the dumb lady’s voice will cause actual ear damage if you’re already listening to your music loud and you can neither turn her down or turn her off. Apple Maps is a zillion times better even though it doesn’t filter chargers or calculate range for you, because it will tell me on the Apple Watch when to turn.

We’re taking a small road trip tomorrow and here’s how it’s gonna go: my wife is gonna ask me to turn the lady’s voice down, and I’ll say that’s coming in a future update. Then my wife will say to just use CarPlay and then I’ll say that’s coming in a future update. Then she’ll say well just do it over Bluetooth on your Phone and I’ll say Bluetooth keeps dropping out intermittently, that’s being fixed in a software update, so then I’ll just give up and use Apple Maps and hope I notice the turn when my Apple Watch says turn, and if I miss the turn then my wife will say the car sucks……And then I’ll have her turn on the massaging seat, have Alexa play whatever podcast she was wanting to hear, and remind her that her hyper-eco tendencies caused her to be on board with me getting this car because it is the most efficient usable EV on the market, and then everything will be just fine.

 

[MorganB]

BUT it doesn’t show traffic, it doesn’t given alternate route options,

Wait it doesn't show traffic? As in it doesn't consider traffic at all or it routes with traffic considered but doesn't display traffic flow? Either way its unacceptable. I have a 2017 Giulia and the NAV has no traffic making it worthless. I use CarPlay (added aftermarket) and I often look at the upcoming traffic so I know to slow down etc. I hope this is alleviated soon or that CarPlay is implemented!

 

[DeaneG]

Still baffled why Lucid didn't just use Google Maps in their AAOS car. And why Alexa instead of Google Assistant for that matter. Why choose the second-best when all they had to do was tick a box to get the technology and performance leader? We have both Google Maps and Google Assistant in our Volvo AAOS EV, and they're a real pleasure to use.

 

[MoniputerLM]

A related question. I saw a place in one of the Nav menus where you download maps by state. What’s that for? Is it because maps are local and you need to periodically update them unlike with Tesla and Google?

You download maps so you can navigate without cell coverage.

 

[Bus Driver]

As tedious as they are, the comparisons to Tesla are inevitable and manifold.

I’m bummed too, no live traffic updates on Lucid Navigation. I was not aware of that until now.

 

[Bunnylebowski]

Wait it doesn't show traffic? As in it doesn't consider traffic at all or it routes with traffic considered but doesn't display traffic flow? Either way its unacceptable. I have a 2017 Giulia and the NAV has no traffic making it worthless. I use CarPlay (added aftermarket) and I often look at the upcoming traffic so I know to slow down etc. I hope this is alleviated soon or that CarPlay is implemented!

I don’t know if it calculates traffic, but it doesn’t show traffic. It does show detours, sometimes. There are also some green lines on the map, but that does not appear to correlate with any traffic pattern. Also, if you want to delete a waypoint or stop…you can’t! You have to delete the whole route and re-search for your destination. So if you want to add a charging stop then change your mind, NOPE! And that’s only if the keyboard comes up in the search field, which doesn’t happen sometimes, so then you have to search on your phone and send it to the car. And then what you sent to the car actually doesn’t come up in the navigation app, but instead comes up under the Home Screen when you scroll past your home and work locations. And the 3D track up view is so bad it’s hilarious, because all it does is tilt the 2D image at an angle, but then cuts off the top of the screen. I’m assuming they’ll improve this navigation software over time because it’s kind of embarrassing how limited and poorly thought out it is.

I’m fine with just about everything else about the car but the navigation functionality feels like it was outsourced to an 8th grade class who had never driven a car or used a navigation app before. It will get you to your destination, don’t get me wrong, but beyond that it’s LAME-O. And if you want to find charging on the way and choose along route, it only looks closest to where you’re at, it’s not like you can search for chargers at your midway point. If you choose around destination it only shows chargers within like a 10 mile radius and they’re usually crappy level 1.

And now I will return to singing the car’s praises as I really do love it, but unless you’re going to one location and using another app to find charging (ABRP, PlugShare, etc), the navigation is not very useful.

 

[HC_79]

As tedious as they are, the comparisons to Tesla are inevitable and manifold.

I’m bummed too, no live traffic updates on Lucid Navigation. I was not aware of that until now.

I’ve seen traffic on my navigation. I know because the car navigated me down the side of the freeway and I was wondering what it was doing. Checked the map and the freeway was all red so it’s getting traffic info

 

[Bunnylebowski]

I’ve seen traffic on my navigation. I know because the car navigated me down the side of the freeway and I was wondering what it was doing. Checked the map and the freeway was all red so it’s getting traffic info

Hmmmm, well that’s reassuring! I don’t know why mine doesn’t. Maybe I need to do a reset…that would explain why I can’t type in any destinations either because no keyboard comes up in the search field.

 

[HC_79]

Hmmmm, well that’s reassuring! I don’t know why mine doesn’t. Maybe I need to do a reset…that would explain why I can’t type in any destinations either because no keyboard comes up in the search field.

 

[Bunnylebowski]

Wow mine doesn’t do that. And I’m using a downloaded map for Rhode Island. Maybe that’s why? At least that’s reassuring it does work, just not for me for some reason. I’ll do a reset. Like check this out, there’s no traffic on 95 or Boston? I was looking out my car window at a Chargepoint DC fast charger I was testing out (the 125kw one maxed out at 64kw limited by the charger, not the car), and could literally see traffic.

 

[HC_79]

Wow mine doesn’t do that. And I’m using a downloaded map for Rhode Island. Maybe that’s why? At least that’s reassuring it does work, just not for me for some reason. I’ll do a reset. Like check this out, there’s no traffic on 95 or Boston? I was looking out my car window at a Chargepoint DC fast charger I was testing out (the 125kw one maxed out at 64kw limited by the charger, not the car), and could literally see traffic.

That’s weird. I’m also using a downloaded map but for CA. If a reset doesn’t work I’d contact Lucid. I took the image a moment ago so it definitely works. No matter what time of day, it’s always easy to show red on roads in LA

 

[hydbob]

Wow mine doesn’t do that. And I’m using a downloaded map for Rhode Island. Maybe that’s why? At least that’s reassuring it does work, just not for me for some reason. I’ll do a reset. Like check this out, there’s no traffic on 95 or Boston? I was looking out my car window at a Chargepoint DC fast charger I was testing out (the 125kw one maxed out at 64kw limited by the charger, not the car), and could literally see traffic.

I don't think it'll show traffic that zoomed out? Maybe that's the issue, but I've had traffic on my nav since Day 1, which why I couldn't understand what you meant about not showing traffic. Also adding waypoints, I could've sworn you can just ask Alexa to do it?

 

[Bunnylebowski]

I don't think it'll show traffic that zoomed out? Maybe that's the issue, but I've had traffic on my nav since Day 1, which why I couldn't understand what you meant about not showing traffic. Also adding waypoints, I could've sworn you can just ask Alexa to do it?

Yeah I bet Alexa would do it, hopefully. Because typing it into the nav screen doesn’t work. And I did zoom in and it didn’t look any different as far as traffic goes. It seems to work for everyone else so I’ll just do a reset and try that out.

 

[Dortreo]

Navigation is irritating and rudimentary at this time. Any guesses as to what comes first? Better navigation or Apple CarPlay?