Homelink email for Gravity from Lucid

[9point81]

Just got this email from Lucid:



We have discovered that the automatic garage door activation function in Lucid Gravity can potentially activate at times that are not expected. Please turn off the automatic garage activation setting until we can provide a software update to resolve this unintended behavior, which is planned for early September.

If you have programmed a garage door in your Lucid Gravity you will find this setting by going to the Settings screen, then selecting General, then Garage Opener. You will see a toggle labeled “Auto-Activate on Arrival.” Please turn this option off.

I don't use this particular feature, but good to know...

 

[Californias Best]

I didn’t know about this one either but good to know that they have a fix coming relatively soon.

 

[jered]

Can't have unexpected activation when I don't have a HomeLink module....

 

[DrZorro]

Just saw this email too...while I use homelink (but not this auto function) this is the first I've heard of this bug. Has any one had this unintended behavior?

 

[StarkyLuv]

I used to use this feature on my Model S, but I kinda like opening and closing manually now in my iX.

 

[Neilnaples]

Just saw this email too...while I use homelink (but not this auto function) this is the first I've heard of this bug. Has any one had this unintended behavior?

Yes, when I leave my house, the door opens as I drive away. So, we turned it off. It seemed to be malfunctioning. We wondered if the proximity to our home made the opener think we were arriving. Who knows? We left the house and returned to find the garage door open. To our surprise, the UPS guy had delivered a package inside my garage! At the time, we weren’t sure if we had done something wrong, but now I realize it was probably a software bug.

 

[Clyde2575]

Just saw this email too...while I use homelink (but not this auto function) this is the first I've heard of this bug. Has any one had this unintended behavior?

Yes, mine shut the garage door shortly after I pressed the button to open (and it opened). I turned off the auto option once that happened but I assumed I had set it up wrong so I didn’t tell anyone.

 

[Bdr100]

I have a question for those who have Homelink in their Lucid. I have basic Homelink in my two Mercedes that are just the buttons integrated into rear view mirror. There is no auto open/close. A couple years ago I added a Tailwind module to my garage door opener that added smart features. But for it to work properly, I had to add a sensor to the door/railing to sense if the door was open or closed.

So, if you have a basic door opener and now have a Lucid with smart Homelink functionality, does the car come with a door sensor to tell Homelink if door is currently open or closed? I have had my Tailwind smart system occasionally act up when the sensor is knocked out of alignment and Tailwind thinks door is open, when it is actually still closed.

 

[Tâm]

I have a question for those who have Homelink in their Lucid. I have basic Homelink in my two Mercedes that are just the buttons integrated into rear view mirror. There is no auto open/close. A couple years ago I added a Tailwind module to my garage door opener that added smart features. But for it to work properly, I had to add a sensor to the door/railing to sense if the door was open or closed.

So, if you have a basic door opener and now have a Lucid with smart Homelink functionality, does the car come with a door sensor to tell Homelink if door is currently open or closed? I have had my Tailwind smart system occasionally act up when the sensor is knocked out of alignment and Tailwind thinks door is open, when it is actually still closed.

I don't have a Gravity so it's my guess that you should not need anything added for a basic garage door opener.

It should not need to be smart enough to know whether the door is open or close the same way as your remote control clicker should not.

 

[hydbob]

I have a question for those who have Homelink in their Lucid. I have basic Homelink in my two Mercedes that are just the buttons integrated into rear view mirror. There is no auto open/close. A couple years ago I added a Tailwind module to my garage door opener that added smart features. But for it to work properly, I had to add a sensor to the door/railing to sense if the door was open or closed.

So, if you have a basic door opener and now have a Lucid with smart Homelink functionality, does the car come with a door sensor to tell Homelink if door is currently open or closed? I have had my Tailwind smart system occasionally act up when the sensor is knocked out of alignment and Tailwind thinks door is open, when it is actually still closed.

Homelink doesn't work like that

 

[Bdr100]

Homelink doesn't work like that

So how does Homelink know the status of your door (open vs closed)?

 

[Tâm]

So how does Homelink know the status of your door (open vs closed)?

My guess is that skill is not required to automatically operate your garage door. Your remote controls come with your opener don't need to have that skill.

It just needs to issue a signal to get the garage opener motor running.

Without the skill of knowing whether the status of the door (close/open), the system might be in reverse of the desired action.

A humans is needed to reset to the desired action for the door status.

That means if system got it wrong, human would manual operate it (thus, reset, synchronize) and the system would be corrected for the next time.

 

[Bdr100]

My guess is that skill is not required to automatically operate your garage door. Your remote controls come with your opener don't need to have that skill.

It just needs to issue a signal to get the garage opener motor running.

Without the skill of knowing whether the status of the door (close/open), the system might be in reverse of the desired action.

A humans is needed to reset to the desired action for the door status.

That means if system got it wrong, human would manual operate it (thus, reset, synchronize) and the system would be corrected for the next time.

But if you read the Lucid notice in the OP, it states that it is referring to the “automated” feature of Homelink, in which it will automatically close the door as you leave or auto open when you return. In order for this to work properly, the system has to know if door is open or closed. If it does not know, and you drive away from house with door already closed, system assumes door is open and sends signal. This signal is a dumb signal and just tells door to operate, so close if it was open or open if it was closed. Some newer door openers have WiFi/MyQ capabilities that log their open/closed status, but older systems don’t have such sensors and would require adding one to enable auto open/closed functionality.

 

[borski]

So how does Homelink know the status of your door (open vs closed)?

No. ratgdo does. I’m so happy I solved this with HA and ratgdo years ago and never looked back.

 

[RAF42]

Homelink does know the status of the garage door. Addon's like ratgdo, Meross and others can/do. When I had my Tesla with geofenced homelink suport, if the door was open and I pulled into my driveway, it would close the door since it did not know (not desirable). It did offer, for a few seconds, a "skip" button as you approached the geofence area so I'd have to press that if the door was open so it did not activate.

While I have HA and could automate it, I have Meross and just ask Siri to "open left garage door" as I approach home, and the reverse as I leave. You can also ask it the door is opened or closed. Works pretty much 100% of the time. You can also set it to auto-close after X minutes, but I don't do that.

I'd like to have it automatically open as I approach the door in my Air, if they also offered the "skip" button. Hopefully they will implement this (don't know how this functions in the Gravity). I never liked auto close and did not use it, but that's a person preference.

 

[borski]

While I have HA and could automate it, I have Meross and just ask Siri to "open left garage door" as I approach home, and the reverse as I leave. You can also ask it the door is opened or closed. Works pretty much 100% of the time. You can also set it to auto-close after X minutes, but I don't do that.

I'd like to have it automatically open as I approach the door in my Air, if they also offered the "skip" button. Hopefully they will implement this (don't know how this functions in the Gravity). I never liked auto close and did not use it, but that's a person preference.

Because you have HA, the automatic open operation is trivial - literally a few button clicks, and no code. Just set it to if your car enters the zone, and the door isn’t already open, to open it.

I didn’t want automatic close until I installed an infinity shield (which is fantastic btw), but after that I have it set to close after 6 minutes of no obstructions or motion. I have it set that long because I sometimes spend time in the garage.

I will say it is weird to be in a garage with the car on and have the garage door close automatically and … not panic that I’m going to die. lol

 

[Tâm]

But if you read the Lucid notice in the OP, it states that it is referring to the “automated” feature of Homelink, in which it will automatically close the door as you leave or auto open when you return. In order for this to work properly, the system has to know if door is open or closed. If it does not know, and you drive away from house with door already closed, system assumes door is open and sends signal. This signal is a dumb signal and just tells door to operate, so close if it was open or open if it was closed. Some newer door openers have WiFi/MyQ capabilities that log their open/closed status, but older systems don’t have such sensors and would require adding one to enable auto open/closed functionality.

My guess again: It would be more accurate to describe it as "automatically" issues a Dumb signal to ""automatically"" turn on the opener's motor regardless the status of the door position.

Thus, if the door is already closed, driving away would "automatically" issue a Dumb signal to "automatically" open the door when the desired action would be refraining from issuing the signal that opens the closed door when you drive away for your vacation.

 

[knewman]

Because you have HA, the automatic open operation is trivial - literally a few button clicks, and no code. Just set it to if your car enters the zone, and the door isn’t already open, to open it.

This was my setup for a while, but around the 2.6 update I started getting phantom door openings at all hours. Logs indicated the car reported itself leaving/entering the zone while sitting in the garage, possibly when the car rebooted itself. Have you experienced this?

I ended up adding a condition to check if the car is over 5mph before triggering action.

 

[borski]

My guess again: It would be more accurate to describe it as "automatically" issues a Dumb signal to ""automatically"" turn on the opener's motor regardless the status of the door position.

Thus, if the door is already closed, driving away would "automatically" issue a Dumb signal to "automatically" open the door when the desired action would be refraining from issuing the signal that opens the closed door when you drive away for your vacation.

Correct.

 

[borski]

This was my setup for a while, but around the 2.6 update I started getting phantom door openings at all hours. Logs indicated the car reported itself leaving/entering the zone while sitting in the garage, possibly when the car rebooted itself. Have you experienced this?

I ended up adding a condition to check if the car is over 5mph before triggering action.

I haven’t, but you could couple it with your phone entering/leaving the zone. The Hyundai API sucks, so I had to use my wife’s phone as a crutch in the same way, since their API could take literally minutes to update location.