Okay, I still choose the Air, but…

[hmp10]

Out of curiosity (and I probably shouldn’t ask), how did the Air insurance premium compare to the Gravity?

2022 Air Dream P: $868.67

2026 Gravity Dream: $557.44

 

[scal_air]

2022 Air Dream P: $868.67

2026 Gravity Dream: $557.44

I knew I shouldn't have asked...

 

[Clyde2575]

Out of curiosity (and I probably shouldn’t ask), how did the Air insurance premium compare to the Gravity?

I’m guessing that @borski and I would agree that that’s one overpriced minivan

In the Air my insurance was $4258 per year, my Gravity is $2,121.

 

[borski]

In the Air my insurance was $4258 per year, my Gravity is $2,121.

My Air is $3916 / year, but 250/500, 100k property damage, 25k med, $1000 ded for collision and comp. And it’s PURE, so great service etc. Oh and agreed value of $80,580.

Gravity, same numbers, is $2743 / year. Agreed value $139,900.

 

[hmp10]

I'm not sure of this, as you're never sure of identical conditions, but so far it seems that our Gravity is getting a lot less bug splatter on the windshield and front end than our Air.

Last evening we took a 40-mile round-trip drive to dinner on a rural two-lane road through orchards and fields, usually a prime venue for summer bug splatter. When we got home there were only two bug spatters on the front end and just a few very minor hits on the windshield. I don't ever remember returning home from the same trip in the Air without having something of a cleanup job on my hands. And this has seemed to be a trend even on our less rural outings in the Gravity.

I wonder if there's something about the airflow around the front end that insulates the Gravity a bit more from bug strikes? Has anyone else noticed this?

 

[hmp10]

My Air is $3916 / year, but 250/500, 100k property damage, 25k med, $1000 ded for collision and comp. And it’s PURE, so great service etc. Oh and agreed value of $80,580.

Gravity, same numbers, is $2743 / year. Agreed value $139,900.

So, it seems to carry across at least several insurance carriers.

I googled the question of insurance rate variance based on SUV / Minivan / Station Wagon categorization but found nothing really helpful except a suggestion that SUV and Minivan rates tend to be about the same. But I also found a Reddit thread where other owners were saying certain cars that people think of as SUVs or crossovers were actually categorized as sport wagons by their insurance carriers -- cars such as the Acura MDX -- and that the insurance rates seemed to be lower as a consequence.

 

[Clyde2575]

So, it seems to carry across at least several insurance carriers.

I googled the question of insurance rate variance based on SUV / Minivan / Station Wagon categorization but found nothing really helpful except a suggestion that SUV and Minivan rates tend to be about the same. But I also found a Reddit thread where other owners were saying certain cars that people think of as SUVs or crossovers were actually categorized as sport wagons by their insurance carriers -- cars such as the Acura MDX -- and that the insurance rates seemed to be lower as a consequence.

I didn’t ask what my insurance classifies the Gravity as but I was told it is cheaper because the classify the Air as a sports car.

 

[Bus Driver]

I have to stop reading this thread. I had no intention of purchasing a SUV but reading these testimonials are making me itchy .
It's the curse of the early adopter. Successive editions feature better performance and enhancements at the same price or even cheaper. It's great to be one of the first owners of a $15K flat-screen TV but only for a short period of time.
Great to hear how well the Gravity performs. Looking to purchase in the distant (very) future

I’m in the same boat. I’m choosing to wait. It’s killing me to do it, but I’m going to wait.

I’m a slow learner. It’s taken me four EV purchases to realise that in the end it doesn’t pay to be an early adopter. The heady thrill of owning the bragging rights to being the first on the block to own, fill-in-your-vehicle-purchase-of-choice, fades long before that last car payment is sent in.

Every Tesla I’ve purchased and the Air GT I own now, have all improved in range and features, and dropped in price, in succeeding model years since my purchase. You’d think I’d learn. I’m hoping to now, in deferring my order for the Gravity.

 

[borski]

I’m in the same boat. I’m choosing to wait. It’s killing me to do it, but I’m going to wait.

I’m a slow learner. It’s taken me four EV purchases to realise that in the end it doesn’t pay to be an early adopter. The heady thrill of owning the bragging rights to being the first on the block to own, fill-in-your-vehicle-purchase-of-choice, fades long before that last car payment is sent in.

Every Tesla I’ve purchased and the Air GT I own now, have all improved in range and features, and dropped in price, in succeeding model years since my purchase. You’d think I’d learn. I’m hoping to now, in deferring my order for the Gravity.

Yeah, that’s always true. I didn’t buy either of them for the bragging rights though; I bought them because they’re the best cars I’ve ever driven.

Waiting is fine, and in the past I’ve done that too. But sometimes there is benefit to being able to drive the car instead of waiting; YMMV, of course, and depends on many, many factors.

 

[DeaneG]

Every Tesla I’ve purchased and the Air GT I own now, have all improved in range and features, and dropped in price, in succeeding model years since my purchase. You’d think I’d learn. I’m hoping to now, in deferring my order for the Gravity.

The hard part is that there's always something better coming in a year or two. That's technology.

 

[037]

I'm not sure of this, as you're never sure of identical conditions, but so far it seems that our Gravity is getting a lot less bug splatter on the windshield and front end than our Air.

Last evening we took a 40-mile round-trip drive to dinner on a rural two-lane road through orchards and fields, usually a prime venue for summer bug splatter. When we got home there were only two bug spatters on the front end and just a few very minor hits on the windshield. I don't ever remember returning home from the same trip in the Air without having something of a cleanup job on my hands. And this has seemed to be a trend even on our less rural outings in the Gravity.

I wonder if there's something about the airflow around the front end that insulates the Gravity a bit more from bug strikes? Has anyone else noticed this?

Going supersonic probably just blows them out of the way or vaporizes them…whatever works