Over a week with Gravity, my thoughts

[jered]

Mine were when I checked over a week ago. You sure the rear climate is on? It’s usually off unless someone is sitting in the back or you manually turn it on.

Yup, I put the rear zones both on full fan and nothing comes out the back vents. I don't have anyone back there right now, so this just goes on the list of things to look at when they get the Homelink module (or have to do some other maintenance).

Everything related to driving and charging seems to work great, so I'm not bothered as long as forward progress continues to be made. Having to reboot or change profiles to get Spotify on nearly every darn drive is annoying, and the climate mode reverting to centrigrade regardless of the profile being set to Fahrenheit is just silly. Also, the HERE map data has some pretty severe errors around one-way streets in my neighborhood, and I'm not sure how to report this. Some of the software quirks are a bit head-scratching, but I expect them to be fixed in time.

 

[hmp10]

Even though I knew the way, I put in the address for our local PPF installer just to try out the nav system as I took the car in to be wrapped. It laid out an 1806-mile route for the ~20-mile trip. But at least the Lucid app is now showing the car's location as Newark, CA instead of off the hook of Africa in the eastern Atlantic. That's getting closer, I suppose, but right now I'd say the nav system is pretty much useless.

 

[jered]

Even though I knew the way, I put in the address for our local PPF installer just to try out the nav system as I took the car in to be wrapped. It laid out an 1806-mile route for the ~20-mile trip. But at least the Lucid app is now showing the car's location as Newark, CA instead of off the hook of Africa in the eastern Atlantic. That's getting closer, I suppose, but right now I'd say the nav system is pretty much useless.

Yikes! I haven't had anything that bad, and found the interface for HERE to update their map data (https://mapcreator.here.com/). I'm curious to see how long it takes for them to update the one-way streets I reported. None of the mapping platforms are perfect, but it was a bit surprising to see these errors given how long HERE has been around. I wonder if Google is sabotaging them with bad data...

 

[Bunnylebowski]

Even though I knew the way, I put in the address for our local PPF installer just to try out the nav system as I took the car in to be wrapped. It laid out an 1806-mile route for the ~20-mile trip. But at least the Lucid app is now showing the car's location as Newark, CA instead of off the hook of Africa in the eastern Atlantic. That's getting closer, I suppose, but right now I'd say the nav system is pretty much useless.

Sounds like you need your navigation module reset (my air had that done via mobile service when it had that same issue).

 

[Bunnylebowski]

Yikes! I haven't had anything that bad, and found the interface for HERE to update their map data (https://mapcreator.here.com/). I'm curious to see how long it takes for them to update the one-way streets I reported. None of the mapping platforms are perfect, but it was a bit surprising to see these errors given how long HERE has been around. I wonder if Google is sabotaging them with bad data...

HERE maps has been more problematic in terms of finding correct locations in the Air also but I’ve never had it try to send me the wrong way down a one way street. I don’t see how the Gravity HERE database could be different from the Air so that one is perplexing.

 

[hmp10]

Sounds like you need your navigation module reset (my air had that done via mobile service when it had that same issue).

Yes. I called Lucid Customer Care to see if they could do something at their end, but they said it would require a mobile tech visit. The mobile tech has already called and will be here as soon as the car comes back from the PPF and radar installs.

I'm also waiting to see whether our Gravity is one that will accept Homelink programming or whether it's one that will have to have the missing hardware installed . . . and waiting to see what the issue is with the facial profile not yet working . . . and waiting to see whether anything can be done about the large bluish blur that floats in our windshield to the upper left of the HUD projection.

As an early Air owner, I often worried about the warranty costs Lucid must be confronting in getting the early Airs sorted. Erich Bach mentioned in a recent video how Lucid really had to be mindful about warranty costs with the Gravity, but some of the current discussions on this forum from early Gravity owners are raising the specter of warranty costs again.

Fortunately, from a Lucid owner's perspective, Lucid service has remained stellar throughout our 43 months of Lucid ownership. It's the main reason I am comfortable with now having three early-production Lucids in our garage and letting go of our other cars. Unfortunately, from a Lucid stockholder's perspective, the situation looks more worrisome.

 

[EdL-ATX]

Yikes! I haven't had anything that bad, and found the interface for HERE to update their map data (https://mapcreator.here.com/). I'm curious to see how long it takes for them to update the one-way streets I reported. None of the mapping platforms are perfect, but it was a bit surprising to see these errors given how long HERE has been around. I wonder if Google is sabotaging them with bad data...

Alright this is a great find/post if it actually helps. Early on with my Air I got frustrated because it couldn't even navigate correctly out of my neighborhood (always trying to direct me down some dirt path that's not a driving road), so I never tried it again once CarPlay was available (on Air). Will be good if we can actually improve HERE.

 

[jered]

Alright this is a great find/post if it actually helps. Early on with my Air I got frustrated because it couldn't even navigate correctly out of my neighborhood (always trying to direct me down some dirt path that's not a driving road), so I never tried it again once CarPlay was available (on Air). Will be good if we can actually improve HERE.

I ran into another bug today (it wouldn't route to my home because it had incorrect turn restriction data); let's see how long that takes to propagate.

I really don't understand why the HERE data is *so bad*, because OpenStreetMap (which they could draw from) is more accurate although not as detailed. Mapbox is also extremely good. Even Apple Maps is more accurate. I'm sure there are good reasons that Lucid is using HERE, but if I owned the business relationship there I would be screaming at them for a six month plan to not route people into oncoming traffic or switch to a different provider.

 

[Ron_Burgundy]

I have not had a good experience with my Teslas or Rivian navigation. I always use Waze on my phone instead and it makes me feel like a buffoon since I am literally driving a computer, but that’s one reason I like CarPlay. I wouldn’t expect Lucid to be any better than other cars.

At least with my Gravity and CarPlay, I won’t need to have the “Uber Driver” phone holder next to the screen to use Waze!

 

[borski]

Alright this is a great find/post if it actually helps. Early on with my Air I got frustrated because it couldn't even navigate correctly out of my neighborhood (always trying to direct me down some dirt path that's not a driving road), so I never tried it again once CarPlay was available (on Air). Will be good if we can actually improve HERE.

I have corrected routes and locations on HERE using this method, with success. I even added my easement as a path.

 

[borski]

I ran into another bug today (it wouldn't route to my home because it had incorrect turn restriction data); let's see how long that takes to propagate.

I really don't understand why the HERE data is *so bad*, because OpenStreetMap (which they could draw from) is more accurate although not as detailed. Mapbox is also extremely good. Even Apple Maps is more accurate. I'm sure there are good reasons that Lucid is using HERE, but if I owned the business relationship there I would be screaming at them for a six month plan to not route people into oncoming traffic or switch to a different provider.

I think you’ve had a worse experience than most with it; it very much appears to be dependent on where you drive. In the Bay Area, with the exception of unaddressed locations like trailheads, it honestly works fine, for example.

At least in my experience.

 

[Bunnylebowski]

I have not had a good experience with my Teslas or Rivian navigation. I always use Waze on my phone instead and it makes me feel like a buffoon since I am literally driving a computer, but that’s one reason I like CarPlay. I wouldn’t expect Lucid to be any better than other cars.

At least with my Gravity and CarPlay, I won’t need to have the “Uber Driver” phone holder next to the screen to use Waze!

Yeah CarPlay rocks on the Air so at least we know a cure to HERE will happen on Gravity.