Lucid tesla adapter

[ScottA]

Does anyone know will Lucid provide the adapter to the tesla supercharger network or do we have to buy the adapter, if so, is there an adapter they are recommending.

 

[hydbob]

No word about it yet from Lucid.

 

[Andretex]

I thought the Gravity is supposed to come with the adapter. The high voltage and high kwh will require a special adapter for super chargers. I suspect this adapter will be for sale for the Air owners soon.

Gravity already uses NACS but will come with a J1772 adapter for EA and other super chargers. They will need to sell the J1772 to nacs adapter for the Air owners.

 

[RD7]

Gravity comes with a 1000V/500A CCS to NACS adapter as well as a J1772 80A adapter. These are Lucid-branded adapters. No word yet on the adapters for Air, but this was supposed to happen this calendar quarter. The Lectron NACS to CCS adapter is also 1000V and 500A, which is more than needed today but will also handle future higher-voltage V4 superchargers. You could conceivably get this one now, but there is a caveat: all CPOs, including Tesla, state that only "manufacturer-supplied adapters" are permitted. No way to check this at the dispenser, of course, but if you have an issue they may not help you troubleshoot it if you are not on an "official" adapter. We'll see what Lucid decides to do.

Lucid sad the adapter "would be available to purchase" so don't expect to get a free one like Ford, and to a lesser extent, Kia, did.

 

[Buffalo Bob]

Gravity comes with a 1000V/500A CCS to NACS adapter...

Why would Gravity come with this? I thought it was built for NACS. I'm guessing you meant the other way around... NACS to CCS.

 

[aijunli]

The Lucid Gravity comes with two charging adapters to ensure broad compatibility with various charging networks:
* CCS1 to NACS adapter: This allows the Gravity to charge at CCS1 DC fast chargers, with the adapter being rated to handle high power (up to 500A with 1000V, enabling up to 400 kW charging).
* SAE J1772 to NACS adapter: This adapter is for AC (Level 2) charging points, which are common for home or public slower charging.

 

[DeaneG]

Why would Gravity come with this? I thought it was built for NACS. I'm guessing you meant the other way around... NACS to CCS.

Adapters are named from the source to the destination, so Gravity would come with a CCS to NACS adapter and a J1772 to NACS adapter.

 

[Buffalo Bob]

Adapters are named from the source to the destination, so Gravity would come with a CCS to NACS adapter and a J1772 to NACS adapter.

Wow! Thanks! So, when Superchargers become available for the Air, I'll want a NACS to CCS adapter. I learn something every day... No matter how much I resist! Thanks again!

 

[Lindycorp]

In a 2024 Tesla M3 Performance - my 2nd model 3. I absolutely love it. But when Air is compatible with Tesla chargers, I will definitely be looking to move. Would definitely help if they can move that price point south a bit though!

 

[DeaneG]

In a 2024 Tesla M3 Performance - my 2nd model 3. I absolutely love it. But when Air is compatible with Tesla chargers, I will definitely be looking to move. Would definitely help if they can move that price point south a bit though!

It's easy to appreciate both, though they are very different - the Model 3 Performance is a fun, stripped-down hot rod, while the Air offers sophisticated power, speed and handling.

 

[RD7]

Why would Gravity come with this? I thought it was built for NACS. I'm guessing you meant the other way around... NACS to CCS.

In my post it says "The Lectron NACS to CCS adapter is also 1000V and 500A..." so yes, this is the exact opposite of the Gravity adapter. This "X to Y" adapter nomenclature is clearly ambiguous, but it seems that the first term, X, usually means the plug on the dispenser with "y" referring to the car's socket.

 

[Buffalo Bob]

Oh, crap! I'm getting confused again. This is worse than octane ever was!

 

[RD7]

In a 2024 Tesla M3 Performance - my 2nd model 3. I absolutely love it. But when Air is compatible with Tesla chargers, I will definitely be looking to move. Would definitely help if they can move that price point south a bit though!

Lucid is currently taking $10K off the list price, giving you a $650 EVSE allowance, and an additional $4K for a Tesla trade-in. You can also still get the $7500 tax credit if you lease (for now, at least). Not the very best offer in recent months, but close to the March discounts. Wait too long and forget about the tax credit.

 

[DeaneG]

In a 2024 Tesla M3 Performance - my 2nd model 3. I absolutely love it. But when Air is compatible with Tesla chargers, I will definitely be looking to move. Would definitely help if they can move that price point south a bit though!

Depending where you live, I don't think there is a reason to wait for the Air to get access to Superchargers before buying. There are actually far more CCS charging locations than Supercharger locations, and their uptime / reliability has been improving. There are currently about 10,000 CCS DC fast charging locations in the USA compared to 3000+ Supercharger locations, though only 24,000 CCS stalls compared to 32,000 Supercharger stalls. Not all of those 32,000 Supercharger stalls will be able to connect to the Air - only 250kW v3 or v3+ stations.

This said, I'll be glad when I can occasionally use a Supercharger location to allow my Air to reach the most remote destinations.

 

[RD7]

Depending where you live, I don't think there is a reason to wait for the Air to get access to Superchargers before buying. There are actually far more CCS charging locations than Supercharger locations, and their uptime / reliability has been improving. There are currently about 10,000 CCS DC fast charging locations in the USA compared to 3000+ Supercharger locations, though only 24,000 CCS stalls compared to 32,000 Supercharger stalls. Not all of those 32,000 Supercharger stalls will be able to connect to the Air - only 250kW v3 or v3+ stations.

This said, I'll be glad when I can occasionally use a Supercharger location to allow my Air to reach the most remote destinations.

This is true. However, in my experience, Tesla is still a better option for road trips. I drove a Tesla for 13 years before switching to my Air. IMHO:

• The majority of CCS stations are not near freeways, and if you just look at freeway-adjacent CCS chargers, Tesla outnumbers them (no hard data, just my observations).
• Tesla stations have far more dispensers. In my travels (vast majority of which are NOT in SoCal) I rarely had to wait for a charger, and if I did, the wait was short due to the number of dispensers. I far too frequently need to go to "Plan B" with CCS, as the station ends up being full. Moreover, most stations have just 4 dispensers and they are often placed poorly, causing some blocked by charging vehicles and leaving none available (just happened again a few days ago).
• Consequently, I need to always plan for an alternate location on each stop, leading to suboptimal charging (e.g. arriving at a charger with a higher SOC and thus not hitting the peak charging spots on the curve). Note that I live in AZ and the density of charger locations is much lower than in other parts of the country, so this may not be an issue for others.

But CCS on my Air still has some significant advantages:

• Vastly faster charging on CCS vs my Model S on a Supercharger. I recently completed a trip from AZ to San Diego, and we did a single stop of 25 minutes and arrived with 30% SOC. The last time I did it in my MS it was 3 stops and took far longer.
• Supercharging an Air is limited to 50kw, so this is really only useful for emergencies.
• Unrelated to charging, but the Air is leagues ahead of the MS wrt NVH, offering much higher levels of comfort with no loss of performance (in fact, better in many ways).

However, planning CCS charging stops with a Tesla location as the backup is a pretty good solution. With this, I would plan to hit my desired charging stop at a ~10% SOC, and if it is full or not working, there would certainly be a Supercharging site within range. Charge enough at the Supercharger to get to the next viable CCS location, and back on the road. Not ideal for Air, but pretty much perfect once my Gravity arrives!

 

[L-Dude]

...However, planning CCS charging stops with a Tesla location as the backup is a pretty good solution. With this, I would plan to hit my desired charging stop at a ~10% SOC, and if it is full or not working, there would certainly be a Supercharging site within range. Charge enough at the Supercharger to get to the next viable CCS location, and back on the road. Not ideal for Air, but pretty much perfect once my Gravity arrives!

Yep 110%

 

[Justmurr]

This is true. However, in my experience, Tesla is still a better option for road trips. I drove a Tesla for 13 years before switching to my Air. IMHO:

• The majority of CCS stations are not near freeways, and if you just look at freeway-adjacent CCS chargers, Tesla outnumbers them (no hard data, just my observations).
• Tesla stations have far more dispensers. In my travels (vast majority of which are NOT in SoCal) I rarely had to wait for a charger, and if I did, the wait was short due to the number of dispensers. I far too frequently need to go to "Plan B" with CCS, as the station ends up being full. Moreover, most stations have just 4 dispensers and they are often placed poorly, causing some blocked by charging vehicles and leaving none available (just happened again a few days ago).
• Consequently, I need to always plan for an alternate location on each stop, leading to suboptimal charging (e.g. arriving at a charger with a higher SOC and thus not hitting the peak charging spots on the curve). Note that I live in AZ and the density of charger locations is much lower than in other parts of the country, so this may not be an issue for others.

But CCS on my Air still has some significant advantages:

• Vastly faster charging on CCS vs my Model S on a Supercharger. I recently completed a trip from AZ to San Diego, and we did a single stop of 25 minutes and arrived with 30% SOC. The last time I did it in my MS it was 3 stops and took far longer.
• Supercharging an Air is limited to 50kw, so this is really only useful for emergencies.
• Unrelated to charging, but the Air is leagues ahead of the MS wrt NVH, offering much higher levels of comfort with no loss of performance (in fact, better in many ways).

However, planning CCS charging stops with a Tesla location as the backup is a pretty good solution. With this, I would plan to hit my desired charging stop at a ~10% SOC, and if it is full or not working, there would certainly be a Supercharging site within range. Charge enough at the Supercharger to get to the next viable CCS location, and back on the road. Not ideal for Air, but pretty much perfect once my Gravity arrives!

Do you recommend an adaptor for the NASC?