Lucid added as "coming soon" on Tesla SC network

[Sid432]

I don't think I have seen it added on Tesla site. May be, we are close?
Admin: If redundant then please delete it. But the webpage says below

Throughout 2025, our North American Supercharging network is opening to more automakers. As automakers transition vehicles to NACS, EV drivers will gradually be able to access Superchargers using adapters provided by their automakers. Soon, all new EVs will come with NACS charge ports built in and adapters will no longer be needed.

If you do not yet have access, your automaker may be joining our network soon. For more information, review our FAQs page or check with your automaker.

Supported
Ford
Rivian
General Motors (GM)
Volvo
Polestar
Nissan

Coming Soon
BMW
Genesis
Hyundai
JLR
Kia
Lucid
Mercedes-Benz

Source: https://www.tesla.com/NACS

 

[HC_79]

Hyundai and Lucid were announced pretty close together (October & Nov 2023). Hyundai is getting access this quarter so hopefully Lucid follows very soon after.

 

[PCorkett]

I wonder if this is in reference to the Gravity using the NACS port, or it applies to all Airs that are still using CCS, which will require an adapter.

 

[DeaneG]

I wonder if this is in reference to the Gravity using the NACS port, or it applies to all Airs that are still using CCS, which will require an adapter.

I would expect it applies to all Lucid vehicles.

 

[borski]

I would expect it applies to all Lucid vehicles.

I wouldn’t assume that. It is entirely possible native NACS comes before the CCS cars, or vice versa. The former is certainly more likely than the latter.

It’s also possible both get supported simultaneously, of course. I just don’t think that’s *more* likely.

 

[Tâm]

I wouldn’t assume that. It is entirely possible native NACS comes before the CCS cars, or vice versa. The former is certainly more likely than the latter.

It’s also possible both get supported simultaneously, of course. I just don’t think that’s *more* likely.

It's a fleet access.

Without a fleet access, both CCS and NACS Lucid cars should be able to individually access through the magic dock program. Magic Dock is not a plug and charge system: Driver has to manually download the Tesla app and click which charging stall...

That means there's no charging incompatibility without the proper granting of fleet access (again just bypass the fleet access issue by doing a manual Magic Dock).

However, once a fleet access is turned on, there seems to be availability issue with insufficient production of NACS to CCS adapters from Tesla. In that case, Gravity should be able to take the advantage of a fleet access first because of its built-in NACS while the CCS Air might need to wait for the adapters.

 

[borski]

It's a fleet access.

Without a fleet access, both CCS and NACS Lucid cars should be able to individually access through the magic dock program. Magic Dock is not a plug and charge system: Driver has to manually download the Tesla app and click which charging stall...

That means there's no charging incompatibility without the proper granting of fleet access (again just bypass the fleet access issue by doing a manual Magic Dock).

However, once a fleet access is turned on, there seems to be availability issue with insufficient production of NACS to CCS adapters from Tesla. In that case, Gravity should be able to take the advantage of a fleet access first because of its built-in NACS while the CCS Air might need to wait for the adapters.

There are not many magic docks around. “Fleet access” doesn’t mean every single car a manufacturer makes.

 

[HC_79]

There are not many magic docks around. “Fleet access” doesn’t mean every single car a manufacturer makes.

Yeah, I think Tesla gave up on the Magic Dock once automakers made the switch to NACS. The only reason they initially tested it was to secure funding but now NACS in the US standard they have no incentive to continue rolling them out especially now automakers are providing adaptors.

 

[Tâm]

There are not many magic docks around. “Fleet access” doesn’t mean every single car a manufacturer makes.

Kia is late in getting fleet access (still no fleet access as of today) so a Kia EV6 owner got a third-party Tesla-to-CCS adapter and plugged in a Tesla V3 Supercharger (not Magic Dock) with Tesla app (not Kia fleet access software) and lied on the Tesla app that his car is Ioniq 5 and it works.

Honda is not listed on the Tesla NACS webpage but a Honda Prologues did the same lie by telling the Tesla App that he owns a Chevy Blazers (GM got fleet access but not Honda) and it works.

Kia's Tesla Supercharger access is late, but some owners found a way to charge

Kia was supposed to gain Supercharger access today, but unexpected delays pushed that to spring. But some owners are finding ways to charge.

electrek.co

 

[steveairgt]

Has anyone heard whether Lucid will provide (free or otherwise) NACS adaptors for Airs?

 

[Sid432]

Kia is late in getting fleet access (still no fleet access as of today) so a Kia EV6 owner got a third-party Tesla-to-CCS adapter and plugged in a Tesla V3 Supercharger (not Magic Dock) with Tesla app (not Kia fleet access software) and lied on the Tesla app that his car is Ioniq 5 and it works.

Honda is not listed on the Tesla NACS webpage but a Honda Prologues did the same lie by telling the Tesla App that he owns a Chevy Blazers (GM got fleet access but not Honda) and it works.

Kia's Tesla Supercharger access is late, but some owners found a way to charge

Kia was supposed to gain Supercharger access today, but unexpected delays pushed that to spring. But some owners are finding ways to charge.

electrek.co

I guess the testing team will be fired now

 

[Blue Lectroid]

Has anyone heard whether Lucid will provide (free or otherwise) NACS adaptors for Airs?

These are supposed to be available for purchase early this year…

 

[Paul]

These are supposed to be available for purchase early this year…

If Lucid is going to charge for the adapter, it might make a good addition to the referral rewards store.

 

[fisheral]

If Lucid is going to charge for the adapter, it might make a good addition to the referral rewards store.

Agreed. I have a decent number of points with nothing to really spend them on.

 

[Haggy]

I noticed as of yesterday, when I read about the announcement for Supercharger availability for the Gravity, that Superchargers now show up in the Tesla app for the Air. It might be a moot point until adapters are available, but it would likely work with an adapter for another brand that already has access. I'm not in a hurry to find out but it might be helpful in a pinch.

 

[cplewes]

I don't think I have seen it added on Tesla site. May be, we are close?
Admin: If redundant then please delete it. But the webpage says below

Throughout 2025, our North American Supercharging network is opening to more automakers. As automakers transition vehicles to NACS, EV drivers will gradually be able to access Superchargers using adapters provided by their automakers. Soon, all new EVs will come with NACS charge ports built in and adapters will no longer be needed.

If you do not yet have access, your automaker may be joining our network soon. For more information, review our FAQs page or check with your automaker.

Supported
Ford
Rivian
General Motors (GM)
Volvo
Polestar
Nissan

Coming Soon
BMW
Genesis
Hyundai
JLR
Kia
Lucid
Mercedes-Benz

Source: https://www.tesla.com/NACS

We are now listed as supported on this site

 

[segbrk]

We are now listed as supported on this site

Gravity is supported. Air should be coming some time in Q2.

 

[Sandvinsd]

Gravity is supported. Air should be coming some time in Q2.

We are now in Q2. I’ll believe it when I see it. Really expect it to be by Q4 or in 2025.

 

[HC_79]

We are now in Q2. I’ll believe it when I see it. Really expect it to be by Q4 or in 2025.

April, May, June is Q2. Since when have you known Lucid to deliver something at the beginning of a quarter? They usually wait until the last possible moment so I wouldn’t expect SC access until June tbh.

It’s useless anyway in its current form. Who wants to charge at 50kW! Need those V4’s to be upgraded to 1000V before the network becomes useful to Air owners.

 

[David Ross]

Yesterday I tried to test my adapter on a Tesla supercharger and could not get close enough to connect to the cable end (yes, I straddled the line) as the curb was too high for my license plate. The car is registered in New York and a front plate is required. So, rather than drill the front bumper, I used an adapter that a Lucid guy suggested that bolts into the tow bar thread and attaches to a frame for the plate. I only needed a few inches (yes, I attached the adapter to the cable) so I have to try another Supercharger.