What’s it like coming from Tesla

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I was all set to order a Gravity but the price held me back. I was hoping the $96K would have most of the premium options. After configuring I was at $120K wasn’t gravity to aim a bit lower? Geesh.

I was willing to do an impulse buy under $100K but not at $120K. I think I need a to see reviews from real owners and a test drive before ordering.

I also thought it was a refundable reservation and was willing to do that while I researched.

Any way a few things holding me back.

Updates. I have to say updates adding features to my almost 3 year old Model S (4 year old design) is really impressive.

Like they just added a feature that if I stand by the rear hatch for few seconds it will beep, blink brake lights 3 times and open the trunk. Don’t even have to kick a pedal, genius.

Does Lucid do that or just fix bugs?

It really is an iPhone on wheels. And always feels new.

Bit curious on the size of the Gravity. I had a Model X (which I also enjoyed) and Jeep grand cherokees before that. That’s the size I want. When I hear 3 row seating 7 passenger I think too big. Model X was 3 row 7 passenger but only midgets fit in the last row.

Gravity dimensions look good but seeing it in person is always different.

I really don’t want another Tesla because of Elon’s circus and feels like S/X is really getting milked.

But a fairly loaded Model X is $80K. And FSD would likely transfer. Granted fit and finish of lucid will be nicer but that’s big bucks.

I suspect there are other posts like this.

 

[borski]

I was all set to order a Gravity but the price held me back. I was hoping the $96K would have most of the premium options. After configuring I was at $120K wasn’t gravity to aim a bit lower? Geesh.

Feel free to wait for a Touring. It will cost less.

I was willing to do an impulse buy under $100K but not at $120K. I think I need a to see reviews from real owners and a test drive before ordering.

Reasonable. Nobody said you have to order on launch day.

I also thought it was a refundable reservation and was willing to do that while I researched.

It is. Fully refundable until your vehicle is in production.

Updates. I have to say updates adding features to my almost 3 year old Model S (4 year old design) is really impressive.

Like they just added a feature that if I stand by the rear hatch for few seconds it will beep, blink brake lights 3 times and open the trunk. Don’t even have to kick a pedal, genius.

Does Lucid do that or just fix bugs?

Constantly. Hands free highway assist just got announced as coming soon, which means weeks or months, not years.

You can see past releases here: https://www.lucidupdates.com/ota-updates.html

It really is an iPhone on wheels. And always feels new.

Agreed.

Bit curious on the size of the Gravity. I had a Model X (which I also enjoyed) and Jeep grand cherokees before that. That’s the size I want. When I hear 3 row seating 7 passenger I think too big. Model X was 3 row 7 passenger but only midgets fit in the last row.

Gravity dimensions look good but seeing it in person is always different.

I really don’t want another Tesla because of Elon’s circus and feels like S/X is really getting milked.

Even forgetting the political BS, I just haven’t seen Tesla innovate in many years. Cybertruck doesn’t count; 48v isn’t “innovation,” and steer-by-wire is neat, but not the kind of innovation I care about.

I once liked the S/X. It was just a decade ago.

But a fairly loaded Model X is $80K. And FSD would likely transfer. Granted fit and finish of lucid will be nicer but that’s big bucks.

They are extremely different cars. The Model X has nowhere near the luxury or build quality that the Gravity will have. Even just in terms of interior materials alone.

That said, they are different prices. The Model X is priced lower than BMW, Mercedes, Lucid, Porsche, etc., because it can no longer claim to be the best (or only decent) EV, and it has never been luxury, and thus cannot compete at those same prices. Nobody would buy one.

That’s why it’s cheaper.

That doesn’t make it bad. Just different, and older.

 

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Tesla blew it on Cyber Truck. There is tons of innovation in Cyber Truck. If they put that tech in a Gravity like vehicle and/or normal Pick up it would be doing extremely well. The list is too long. It’s a real shame they put all that innovation into a brick on wheels. Saw one up close the other day. Gosh it’s even uglier in person.

I went from X to S for range. And really would never want to ever go below 400 miles range again. I have not charged on the road in years. With the X it was often (not long but just nice to not have to stop).

I don’t charge to 100% typically and I don’t deplete below 20%. And you lose 10% in winter. I want 240 miles with no plan ahead, no anxiety, no charging on the road. A 400 range just barely gets me that. 330 range X did not.

Way too many EV’s in the 300+ mile range. It’s the main reason I’m considering a Lucid.

What people don’t get it’s not the range needs to be non stop. I want to do a “day trip” without stopping to charge. Go somewhere, make several stops, side trips, and go home. And never think about charging.

 

[steveairgt]

I was a huge Tesla fan. I bought Model S in 2015, then traded it in for a Model X in 2018. When the Lucid Air came out and I test drove it, I immediately knew it was special and very different then Tesla. So in 2022 I sold my Model X and bought the Lucid Air Grand Touring. What an amazing car. Now I’m about to sell it (anyone interested? Only 11,000 miles) to place an order for the Gravity.

Sitting in and driving a Lucid is no comparison to a Tesla Model S or X. Tesla really abandoned the high end. They much rather sell Model 3 and Y. I get it from an investment perspective. There are many more customers for 3 and Y than S and X. I still own Tesla stock (even though I took some profits and sold some) but would never buy another Tesla since I'm into high end luxury cars.

As for the Gravity, I haven't seen one live yet, but I can tell you as a former Model X owner, if the Gravity is anything like the Lucid Air, it won't compare to a Model X. In my opinion, Lucid really competes with Mercedes S class more so than Tesla.

 

[Batteryman]

I was all set to order a Gravity but the price held me back. I was hoping the $96K would have most of the premium options. After configuring I was at $120K wasn’t gravity to aim a bit lower? Geesh.

I was willing to do an impulse buy under $100K but not at $120K. I think I need a to see reviews from real owners and a test drive before ordering.

I also thought it was a refundable reservation and was willing to do that while I researched.

Any way a few things holding me back.

Updates. I have to say updates adding features to my almost 3 year old Model S (4 year old design) is really impressive.

Like they just added a feature that if I stand by the rear hatch for few seconds it will beep, blink brake lights 3 times and open the trunk. Don’t even have to kick a pedal, genius.

Does Lucid do that or just fix bugs?

It really is an iPhone on wheels. And always feels new.

Bit curious on the size of the Gravity. I had a Model X (which I also enjoyed) and Jeep grand cherokees before that. That’s the size I want. When I hear 3 row seating 7 passenger I think too big. Model X was 3 row 7 passenger but only midgets fit in the last row.

Gravity dimensions look good but seeing it in person is always different.

I really don’t want another Tesla because of Elon’s circus and feels like S/X is really getting milked.

But a fairly loaded Model X is $80K. And FSD would likely transfer. Granted fit and finish of lucid will be nicer but that’s big bucks.

I suspect there are other posts like this.

Went from a Model S do a Lucid. Day and Night!

Agree, Tesla software is more robust, but is it better- the screen is very cluttered, difficult to zero in on what you want. Lucid does a better job on ergonomics with the 3 touch screens.

Quality, ride, handling is much better with the Lucid. My Model S had a lot of quality issues- a vibrating steering wheel which the service center dismissed as normal was the last straw!

FSD for me is useless in it's present state.

 

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FSD is useful to me, what does Lucid do in comparison?

Most critical part of FSD, for me, is the change lane with the blinker. That’s about it. Sometimes it changing lane for me is ok, but often it’s annoying.

I do use it around town, sometimes just for fun but it’s not a game changer or anything. But it is impressive what can do today.

How much risk it is, is always a concern though.

I assume Lucid has doggie mode. That is an absolute requirement.

 

[hydbob]

FSD is useful to me, what does Lucid do in comparison?

Most critical part of FSD, for me, is the change lane with the blinker. That’s about it. Sometimes it changing lane for me is ok, but often it’s annoying.

I do use it around town, sometimes just for fun but it’s not a game changer or anything. But it is impressive what can do today.

How much risk it is, is always a concern though.

I assume Lucid has doggie mode. That is an absolute requirement.

Good thing Lucid changes lane with a blinker!

 

[borski]

FSD is useful to me, what does Lucid do in comparison?

Most critical part of FSD, for me, is the change lane with the blinker. That’s about it. Sometimes it changing lane for me is ok, but often it’s annoying.

I do use it around town, sometimes just for fun but it’s not a game changer or anything. But it is impressive what can do today.

How much risk it is, is always a concern though.

I assume Lucid has doggie mode. That is an absolute requirement.

Lucid has automatic lane change and creature comfort (aka “doggie”) mode.

 

[Tâm]

FSD is useful to me, what does Lucid do in comparison?

What annoying about Tesla ADAS is it's distracting and if you go above 87 MPH it will alarm and might suspense you for a week if you've done it so many times.

I can go above Lucid ADAS capability of 90 MPH and there's no alarm, there's no suspension, it just becomes manual instead of ADAS and when I let go of the pedal it goes back to ADAS with no complaints. Much more relaxing.

Lucid ADAS only work on pre-mapped highways only. In city streets, only adaptive cruise works but not the Autosteer nor the automatic lane change.

FSD works in city streets as well but I found it very annoying and I turned it off.

Most critical part of FSD, for me, is the change lane with the blinker. That’s about it. Sometimes it changing lane for me is ok, but often it’s annoying.

When you hold down or up turn signal stalk a second longer, it would do an automatic lane change.

Currently, it can do that on most of highways but there are stretches that it's not permitted (solid lane lines on the dashboard=not permitted, broken lines=auto lane change permitted).

How much risk it is, is always a concern though.

Lucid ADAS emphasizes on driver's skills and not the robot's skills. You still have to do the driving and the machine can do the assistance.

I assume Lucid has doggie mode. That is an absolute requirement.

Yes. I've used the pet mode HVAC many times in my Lucid for my dogs.

 

[Tâm]

Bit curious on the size of the Gravity. I had a Model X (which I also enjoyed) and Jeep grand cherokees before that. That’s the size I want. When I hear 3 row seating 7 passenger I think too big. Model X was 3 row 7 passenger but only midgets fit in the last row.

Gravity dimensions look good but seeing it in person is always different.

Tesla Model X: 199.1 x 81.6 x 66.1 in
Lucid Gravity: 198.2 x 78.7 x 65.2 in

It's smaller than the Tesla Model X. But Gravity is spacious inside, according to YouTube.

This long-leg 6'10" tall guy fits in the third row:

My First Look At The Lucid Gravity! The Electric SUV w/ Impressive Range, Space, & Luxury

 

[CraZ8]

Similar story here. Two model S back to back and was set to buy a plaid when I came across a lucid prototype. Never looked back. Just worlds away in quality and drive experience. I plan to order a Gravity in about 6 months to replace my GT so obviously I’m sold on Lucid. I feel Tesla is sitting on its laurels after putting all its energy in coming out with the cyber truck. The Highlander redesign for the model 3 was actually a step in the right direction but the interior is still very utilitarian. I expect a level of comfort and luxury now that I wasn’t getting with Tesla. I gave up full lifetime charging to come here so I guess that makes me a true believer

 

[RAF42]

Similar story here too. Just switched from Model S to Air touring. While I enjoyed my Model S immensely (especially in the first few years of my 6-year ownership), I was never impressed with the interior, fit and finish, excessive wind noise, or ride quality. My Air is on another level.

My S was essentially trouble free until the driver door handle failed to present after 5 years, and that was rectified immediately by a mobile service visit. Took many road trips with it and the Supercharging experience was always excellent, as was luggage space and the hatch back made it quite versatile.

Elon? Well let’s just say we don’t see eye to eye on how people should be treated, how one should carry themselves, and a few dozen other things. Nuff said.

I only used adaptive cruise and found that incredibly sub optimal. It really liked to hug the lane closer to cars rather than center or slightly away from them (how I drive), and a few (of many) phantom braking incidents that were incredibly annoying and dangerous (like passing a truck on I 5, perfect weather, and the truck’s shadow caused it to slam on the brakes). Only used it half a dozen times in my Air but it seems substantially better.

Auto windshield wipers were awful, windshield washers were the worst of any car I’ve ever owned and service could never fix that. Infotainment system was fine but riddled with bugs, inconsistencies and UI irritations (not that the Air is perfect). After every single OTA update car would disable (turn off) A/C and set the vents to floor only requiring me to go set it back the way it was. Every time. After some recent update I noticed I have to put the car in park after backing out of the garage to access home link.

One thing I did like better than the Air is if you want to do a “reset” (which I had to do on numerous occasions), you could just hold down two buttons and it would reset – even while driving – and you could continue to drive with all black screens until it came back in a minute or so. That’s a big plus and I wish the Air did not require you to pull over and stop to do it.

I realize my time driving and data points with my Air are minuscule compared to most of you, but so far, calling the Air an elevated experience over my S is not doing the Air justice (and my S drove “great” in many respects).

 

[hmp10]

We've been with Tesla for over nine years and are now on our second Tesla (Model S Plaid). We're also on our second Lucid Air (first Dream Edition P was wrecked and replaced with an identical car).

Long story short . . . we'll never buy another Tesla and can't wait to add a Gravity to the Air we're keeping.

Same with my brother. He has driven all our cars extensively and owned a Model 3 since 2018. He's planning to move to the Lucid midsize CUV as soon as it comes out.

 

[steveairgt]

Similar story here too. Just switched from Model S to Air touring. While I enjoyed my Model S immensely (especially in the first few years of my 6-year ownership), I was never impressed with the interior, fit and finish, excessive wind noise, or ride quality. My Air is on another level.

My S was essentially trouble free until the driver door handle failed to present after 5 years, and that was rectified immediately by a mobile service visit. Took many road trips with it and the Supercharging experience was always excellent, as was luggage space and the hatch back made it quite versatile.

Elon? Well let’s just say we don’t see eye to eye on how people should be treated, how one should carry themselves, and a few dozen other things. Nuff said.

I only used adaptive cruise and found that incredibly sub optimal. It really liked to hug the lane closer to cars rather than center or slightly away from them (how I drive), and a few (of many) phantom braking incidents that were incredibly annoying and dangerous (like passing a truck on I 5, perfect weather, and the truck’s shadow caused it to slam on the brakes). Only used it half a dozen times in my Air but it seems substantially better.

Auto windshield wipers were awful, windshield washers were the worst of any car I’ve ever owned and service could never fix that. Infotainment system was fine but riddled with bugs, inconsistencies and UI irritations (not that the Air is perfect). After every single OTA update car would disable (turn off) A/C and set the vents to floor only requiring me to go set it back the way it was. Every time. After some recent update I noticed I have to put the car in park after backing out of the garage to access home link.

One thing I did like better than the Air is if you want to do a “reset” (which I had to do on numerous occasions), you could just hold down two buttons and it would reset – even while driving – and you could continue to drive with all black screens until it came back in a minute or so. That’s a big plus and I wish the Air did not require you to pull over and stop to do it.

I realize my time driving and data points with my Air are minuscule compared to most of you, but so far, calling the Air an elevated experience over my S is not doing the Air justice (and my S drove “great” in many respects).

I have a similar story. I was a relative early adopter of Tesla. Bought the Model S in 2015. Loved it. Since I usually keep cars 3-5 years, I traded the Model S for a model X in 2018. Also loved it.

In 2022, I probably would traded the Model X for a new Model S had they improved or upgraded it, which they actually cheapened it IMO. When I first saw the iPad like screens all their cars have, I knew I was done with Tesla. It’s just too minimalist for me.

When I discovered Lucid that same year, in 2022, and drove the car I thought it could have been Model S 2.0. Tesla has abandoned the high end, and don’t want to build luxury cars. They rather focus on cars for the masses.

I’ve had my Grand Touring since Oct 2022. It’s amazing. The software was really problematic on day one. However within about 2 months of OTA updates all the initial UI delay issues were resolved.

It’s the best car I’ve ever owned. Now I’m considering a Gravity.

 

[hmp10]

I have a similar story. I was a relative early adopter of Tesla. Bought the Model S in 2015. Loved it. Since I usually keep cars 3-5 years, I traded the Model S for a model X in 2018. Also loved it.

In 2022, I probably would traded the Model X for a new Model S had they improved or upgraded it, which they actually cheapened it IMO. When I first saw the iPad like screens all their cars have, I knew I was done with Tesla. It’s just too minimalist for me.

When I discovered Lucid that same year, in 2022, and drove the car I thought it could have been Model S 2.0. Tesla has abandoned the high end, and don’t want to build luxury cars. They rather focus on cars for the masses.

I’ve had my Grand Touring since Oct 2022. It’s amazing. The software was really problematic on day one. However within about 2 months of OTA updates all the initial UI delay issues were resolved.

It’s the best car I’ve ever owned. Now I’m considering a Gravity.

Very similar to our story. First Tesla was a 2015 Model S P90D. Although there were some quality issues with the car, it instantly turned me into an EV addict. We buy a new car to replace one of our other cars every couple of years and, other than a minivan because of passenger needs, we haven't bought an ICE vehicle since.

I was already an EV addict when the Air debuted. It turned me -- for the first time in my life -- into a brand addict as well. As with you, it is the best car I've ever owned.

We're going to add the Gravity to our stable initially but if, with the performance options I want, it turns out to have the real-world range and third-row space we need, we'll let go of the Honda Odyssey and finally become an all-EV household.

 

[loius0044]

Went from a Model S do a Lucid. Day and Night!

Agree, Tesla software is more robust, but is it better- the screen is very cluttered, difficult to zero in on what you want. Lucid does a better job on ergonomics with the 3 touch screens.

Quality, ride, handling is much better with the Lucid. My Model S had a lot of quality issues- a vibrating steering wheel which the service center dismissed as normal was the last straw!

FSD for me is useless in it's present state.

Great

 

[Goodbye]

If you compare what comes standard with the X, it is clearly the better deal of the two. The only options on the X are seat configuration (and the Gravity doesn't even offer one config the X does - mid row captain seats), wheels, and FSD. But Tesla's standard AP package is still light years ahead of Lucid. So in reality, for most people, the bang for the buck is much greater with the X.

For me personally, I am tilted to Tesla BECAUSE OF Elon's common sense outlook on things like immigration, govt spending, and regulations.

Despite all of that, I will eventually buy a Gravity for one reason - 450 miles of range. Most trips we take (by land travel) are 350 miles or less. And we all know when it comes to range, you're getting about 60 to 70% of EPA on the interstate if you drive the going rate of 85+. So, for me, being able to drive 270 to 300 miles before a charge is required is the minimum I will accept. To me, everything else is a far second to range.

Give me range, or give me death.

 

[steveairgt]

If you compare what comes standard with the X, it is clearly the better deal of the two. The only options on the X are seat configuration (and the Gravity doesn't even offer one config the X does - mid row captain seats), wheels, and FSD. But Tesla's standard AP package is still light years ahead of Lucid. So in reality, for most people, the bang for the buck is much greater with the X.

For me personally, I am tilted to Tesla BECAUSE OF Elon's common sense outlook on things like immigration, govt spending, and regulations.

Despite all of that, I will eventually buy a Gravity for one reason - 450 miles of range. Most trips we take (by land travel) are 350 miles or less. And we all know when it comes to range, you're getting about 60 to 70% of EPA on the interstate if you drive the going rate of 85+. So, for me, being able to drive 270 to 300 miles before a charge is required is the minimum I will accept. To me, everything else is a far second to range.

Give me range, or give me death.

I owned a Model X and before that a Model S. The drive experience and luxury interior in a Lucid is no comparison IMO to a Tesla.

Yes Tesla’s software is ahead of Lucid. However the driving, handling, comfort etc in Lucid is way beyond Tesla.

Notice I didn’t mention range? I agree 500 miles is great. I would have bought Lucid even if it was 400 miles.

Tesla FSD is a monumental scam. Musk claimed like 5-6 years ago FSD would be totally hands off. He knew it wasn’t true but said it anyway so people would buy the $8000-$10000 package. I bought it twice; once in my 2015 MS and again on my 2018 MX.

Yes it’s improving but it’s still not ready for prime time. Plus it still needs another hardware upgrade to fully accomplish FSD.

I’ll never buy a Tesla again.

I love my Air GT and look forward to a Gravity GT.

 

[Goodbye]

I owned a Model X and before that a Model S. The drive experience and luxury interior in a Lucid is no comparison IMO to a Tesla.

Yes Tesla’s software is ahead of Lucid. However the driving, handling, comfort etc in Lucid is way beyond Tesla.

Notice I didn’t mention range? I agree 500 miles is great. I would have bought Lucid even if it was 400 miles.

Tesla FSD is a monumental scam. Musk claimed like 5-6 years ago FSD would be totally hands off. He knew it wasn’t true but said it anyway so people would buy the $8000-$10000 package. I bought it twice; once in my 2015 MS and again on my 2018 MX.

Yes it’s improving but it’s still not ready for prime time. Plus it still needs another hardware upgrade to fully accomplish FSD.

I’ll never buy a Tesla again.

I love my Air GT and look forward to a Gravity GT.

I have not yet experienced the luxuriousneds of the lucid, so I'm excited to experience it based on the reviews.

As far as FSD, you must not have read all the reviews on 13.2. Even the negative Nellie's are suddenly raving about it. It's the basis of the recent stock run up.

 

[DeaneG]

@buddyroe9 Tesla vs Lucid has already been hashed and re-hashed in many threads, but I think you'll find the majority of this forum's members are in the "never again" frame of mind with Tesla products. I know I am after 4 years with Tesla, and now 2+ years with Lucid.
You really do have to drive the Air for a few hours to fully understand what it offers. Specs are useful, but the driving experience and comfort are much more than the car's numbers.