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Trouble is, I'm still undecided. Going to test drive the Touring on Sunday, which will help.
 
What's holding you off from getting a touring? Don't they have the 7500 discount going on now or that doesn't apply to old pricing?
 
I am in the same situation with Spin Doctor. They asked me to confirm design but I am still unsure. I have 2 questions for the forum:

1. Can I still change my mind after confirming design? I don't mind losing $300 deposit after this time if I backed out of the deal
2. I don't see the $7,500 discount in the confirmation page. Does this discount be applied during payment time?

TIA
 
What's holding you off from getting a touring? Don't they have the 7500 discount going on now or that doesn't apply to old pricing?
Irrational jitters, mostly.
  • Availability and reliability of fast charging - we road trip quite a bit.
  • Reliability of the car itself, and availability of service - tales of people being without their cars for weeks worry me
  • Resale value - some pretty low sales (or non-sales) on BAT and CarsAndBids lately. And the order numbers in the recent earnings call weren't very encouraging ... could I end up with an expensive rapidly depreciating asset?
Mitigating this, though, I'm thinking:
  • Situation with EA and other DCFC options seems to be improving, albeit slowly, and could perhaps improve more quickly from now on
  • Tales one reads on here are likely a very small minority, you just don't hear so much from satisfied owners
  • If I do go for the Touring, at 'old' pricing and with the $7,500 off, I'm at a massive advantage to someone who buys one as of 1 April at the new pricing and without the $7.5k.
Ultimately we'll see if the test drive is enough to overcome these jitters, or if I end up sticking with what I have (at least until the Fisker arrives)
 
Hello. Here's some things to consider when making your final decision.

CHARGING: you mentioned that you go on a lot of road trips. While the Lucid has the best range of any EV out there, I'd recommend you stay away from any EV. EA is getting more reliable, but can be hit or miss. Tesla users are reporting crowding, even overcrowding, and long wait times. My longest road trips are usually less than 350 miles, and I can make it the entire way without charging. That said, If long road trips are your main goal and getting from point A to point B is more important to you than the journey itself, get a Camry hybrid.

RELIABILITY: this is a young company and it doesn't have as many service centers as a legacy auto maker. For example, we do not have a service center here in San Diego. You should look into how close your service center is to your location. Personally, I have had a very good experience with mobile service, but that varies by location. That said, to read this forum only is to get a skewed view of the reliability of the car. If reliability is your main goal, get a Camry.

RESALE VALUE: a car is a depreciating asset, and EV cars depreciate quickly as technology rapidly moves forward and potential buyers embrace the newest thing. If resale value is a main concern of yours, buy a Camry.

So, if you are looking for just those three, the Lucid is not for you. However, if you were looking for what I consider to be the absolute best vehicle out there right now, the Lucid is the one. It is a sports car and a luxury car wrapped up in one. It is crazy fast one moment, yet a comfortable quiet cruiser the next. The software is rapidly improving. For me, it is a whole package, and after nearly 8000 miles I still love it like the day it was new.
 
I wouldn't discourage purchasing an EV. We've driven our Teslas over 120,000 miles from Whistler to Savannah and everywhere in between. After over 150 unique superchargers visited, we only waited once, for five minutes, at Thanksgiving. So, waiting hasn't been an issue for us. That said, it is noted that there has been congestion at busy times. And I'm hopeful the build out will continue, such as the new Harris Ranch location with 98 stalls.

I'm very hopeful Tesla opening the SC network helps for Lucid owners, and eventually we see higher than 50kw charging speeds on the V4 superchargers. I'm personally watching for this before I consider converting my reservation to an order.
 
Thanks Bobby. Never owned a Toyota, and definitely not a Camry person. But I hear what you're saying :)

Also only experienced supercharger overcrowding once. Both the network and user base are quite a bit bigger now, I guess.
 
How far are your trips? Do you go to very different places? Check the EA map to see how many stations are available. Do those stations have restaurants? More planning needed for sure
 
I wouldn't discourage purchasing an EV. We've driven our Teslas over 120,000 miles from Whistler to Savannah and everywhere in between. After over 150 unique superchargers visited, we only waited once, for five minutes, at Thanksgiving. So, waiting hasn't been an issue for us. That said, it is noted that there has been congestion at busy times. And I'm hopeful the build out will continue, such as the new Harris Ranch location with 98 stalls.

I'm very hopeful Tesla opening the SC network helps for Lucid owners, and eventually we see higher than 50kw charging speeds on the V4 superchargers. I'm personally watching for this before I consider converting my reservation to an order.
That’s a good point. This is location dependent.
 
How far are your trips? Do you go to very different places? Check the EA map to see how many stations are available. Do those stations have restaurants? More planning needed for sure
I'd also take a look to see which Tesla SCs are open to CCS charging. Although you're limited to 50kw until v4 SC it seems like it'll be a reliable backup.
 
I got the same email. I guess they want to try to determine if you are in or out. After the loss of the tax credit fewer than originally expected may follow thru. I'm told the Final Design (they call a Production Order), is where your deposit is on the line. Even if you went from reservation to order, to hopefully get the tax credit, you can still get your deposit back, if you've changed your mind..
 
for those looking at a P to T upgrade and are getting the DDP and SSP options, are you also considering a 2nd hand GT? a touring with DDP and SSP is around 107k (or more if you go for other options). with the 7.5k lucid credit, a used GT (low end ~115k) is only about 10k more.

probably a much easier decision for those that aren't getting DDP and SSP
 
I anticipate being able to to a used, low mileage GT for close to the the price of a loaded Pure by the end of the year. Seems like a good option, and one that I'll gamble on in terms of the weakening of the used car market and the high depreciation I expect on the GT.
 
CHARGING: you mentioned that you go on a lot of road trips. While the Lucid has the best range of any EV out there, I'd recommend you stay away from any EV. EA is getting more reliable, but can be hit or miss. Tesla users are reporting crowding, even overcrowding, and long wait times. My longest road trips are usually less than 350 miles, and I can make it the entire way without charging. That said, If long road trips are your main goal and getting from point A to point B is more important to you than the journey itself, get a Camry hybrid.
I actually disagree. But I still haven’t had issues with EA. I’ve taken plenty of road trips, and the thing that the Air enables over any other EV is to just get on the road and go without worrying because of how large the range is. If one charger doesn’t work, I’ll just go to the next. That the chargers have worked for me is great, but even if they don’t, the next one will. Furthermore, I can usually get to my next hotel and charge there on a single charge.
 
Thanks Bobby. Never owned a Toyota, and definitely not a Camry person. But I hear what you're saying :)

Also only experienced supercharger overcrowding once. Both the network and user base are quite a bit bigger now, I guess.
The reason why the Lucid is the ultimate road trip EV is you have more options to charge because of the range. Only once was I not able to get EA to work at all, my local one in Providence Rhode Island and it doesn’t work for any other Lucid driver either and to this date nobody can figure out why.

Here’s my road trip experience to the best of my memory:
- 2 trips to Maine, charged at Kittery EA fine, Chargepoint charger in Augusta Maine got stuck in a rain storm and nearly stranded me but emergency release got it out, and the other Chargepoint 150kw worked. L2 charged at flight deck brewery in Maine on @Dortreo recommend and it was great!

- 1 trip to Bretton Woods NH, used L2 charger at the hotel, never DC fast charged there or on the way back because the Lucid range is that good.

- 1 trip to NYC, charged on the street at L2 charger but wasn’t enough to get me home because of trip timing, so I tried to charge at an EVGo I didn’t realize was broken, and it failed and caused mayhem on my car, then went to an EA and it worked fine, but then it turned out my drive motor and battery coolant pumps got short circuited probably by the EVGo charger and needed a tow due to turtle mode.
Second trip to NYC charged at EA in White Plains NY but was slow at 70kw.

- 1 trip to Woodstock NY, successful chargers at EA in Albany NY and Chicopee Mass (301kw peak!).

-1 trip to Cazenovia NY, charged at an EA at Dennys Red Roof inn which 3/4 chargers were broken and long line of pissed off drivers. Also charged in Syracuse NY with slow speeds, and Albany NY with ok speed.

So yeah you can road trip the car no problem you just need to make sure to always check Plug Share and have a backup plan.
 
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Thanks for all the responses on this. We went and test-drove a Touring on Saturday and, I confess, I was completely gobsmacked by it. What a wonderful machine! Incredible driving experience, smooth, swift and planted. Interior is spectacular. The whole package just felt, well, special.

BUT the more I think about it, the more I'm coming around to the idea of a used GT. As Impatient7536 and des16 have said, it seems to make a lot of sense. So I'll take my time, see how prices shake out over the coming months, and look for the right GT.

Cheers!
 
Hello. Here's some things to consider when making your final decision.

CHARGING: you mentioned that you go on a lot of road trips. While the Lucid has the best range of any EV out there, I'd recommend you stay away from any EV. EA is getting more reliable, but can be hit or miss. Tesla users are reporting crowding, even overcrowding, and long wait times. My longest road trips are usually less than 350 miles, and I can make it the entire way without charging. That said, If long road trips are your main goal and getting from point A to point B is more important to you than the journey itself, get a Camry hybrid.

RELIABILITY: this is a young company and it doesn't have as many service centers as a legacy auto maker. For example, we do not have a service center here in San Diego. You should look into how close your service center is to your location. Personally, I have had a very good experience with mobile service, but that varies by location. That said, to read this forum only is to get a skewed view of the reliability of the car. If reliability is your main goal, get a Camry.

RESALE VALUE: a car is a depreciating asset, and EV cars depreciate quickly as technology rapidly moves forward and potential buyers embrace the newest thing. If resale value is a main concern of yours, buy a Camry.

So, if you are looking for just those three, the Lucid is not for you. However, if you were looking for what I consider to be the absolute best vehicle out there right now, the Lucid is the one. It is a sports car and a luxury car wrapped up in one. It is crazy fast one moment, yet a comfortable quiet cruiser the next. The software is rapidly improving. For me, it is a whole package, and after nearly 8000 miles I still love it like the day it was new.
I’ve taken an absurd amount of road-trips in both Tesla and non-Tesla vehicles. On the East coast this is not a problem. There might be a few minor gaps, but seriously think the description above is a tad over exaggerated.
 
Thanks for all the responses on this. We went and test-drove a Touring on Saturday and, I confess, I was completely gobsmacked by it. What a wonderful machine! Incredible driving experience, smooth, swift and planted. Interior is spectacular. The whole package just felt, well, special.

BUT the more I think about it, the more I'm coming around to the idea of a used GT. As Impatient7536 and des16 have said, it seems to make a lot of sense. So I'll take my time, see how prices shake out over the coming months, and look for the right GT.

Cheers!
I will emphasize as someone who has owned used, leased, and brand new EVs since 2013, just be sure you have your a** covered with warranties and protect yourself. Buying used will always be the riskiest purchase in the EV world (especially with newer brands) due to warranty and other limitations and logistics. I will _never_ recommend someone buying a used Tesla after they revised their used policy from 5 year Tesla certified to a 1 year warranty. You're guaranteed to be better off buying new.
 
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